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Can we expect smaller bezels and a 120Hz refresh rate on the next Studio Display? Is that too much to ask for?
 
Can we expect smaller bezels and a 120Hz refresh rate on the next Studio Display? Is that too much to ask for?
As long as they keep making a Pro XDR I don’t think you’ll see that yet. If Apple doesn’t update the XDR I could see the Studio getting a 32” version but nothing else.

If Apple goes OLED on the Pro model+Promotion then maybe we could see a minLED in the current size but again with no Promotion and I doubt they would do this all at once.
 
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@iPhone2019 "Can we expect smaller bezels..."

Hmmm.
The current Studio Display has a screen panel retaining adhesive strip with a width of 4.5mm + 1mm aluminium case thickness.
The screen panel has a weight of more than 2.6Kgs, and an edge construction robustness to carry such a distributed weight. There is no interior space between the panel edge and the adhesive strip backing.

Inside the panel, behind the glass are many layers of quantum dot etched plastic plastic light pipe and diffuser layers, each which must be held stretched and supported only by the edge fixings.
Keeping all these layer in precise 'quantum dot' position means the edge of the back support to the panel can not really be much thinner than it already is - which is about half the edge thickness of the 5K iMac panel.

The 13"/14"-16" MPB's screen bezels are so tiny because the whole construction of the screen is encapsulated in a glued unopenable structure, with no electronics except the minature backlight LEDs in the structure.
Also the glass/plastic front laminate is an order of magnitude thinner than the much larger glass of the Studio Display.

The Studio display has a PSU, logic boards and speakers behind the screen, and the whole lot can't be shrunk and encapsulated, and retain enough strength to support 2.6+Kgs..

So no. Apple can't reduce the size of the bezels by very much.

Greater than 60Hz panels will come, but so far at 5K+ they are conspicuous by their absence.
Until Apple pays for the screen panel industry to up their game and focus on greater than 4K 'gaming' panels, everything changes 'really slowly'... 😶
 
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@iPhone2019 "Can we expect smaller bezels..."

Hmmm.
The current Studio Display has a screen panel retaining adhesive strip with a width of 4.5mm + 1mm aluminium case thickness.
The screen panel has a weight of more than 2.6Kgs, and an edge construction robustness to carry such a distributed weight. There is no interior space between the panel edge and the adhesive strip backing.

Inside the panel, behind the glass are many layers of quantum dot etched plastic plastic light pipe and diffuser layers, each which must be held stretched and supported only by the edge fixings.
Keeping all these layer in precise 'quantum dot' position means the edge of the back support to the panel can not really be much thinner than it already is - which is about half the edge thickness of the 5K iMac panel.

The 13"/14"-16" MPB's screen bezels are so tiny because the whole construction of the screen is encapsulated in a glued unopenable structure, with no electronics except the minature backlight LEDs in the structure.
Also the glass/plastic front laminate is an order of magnitude thinner than the much larger glass of the Studio Display.

The Studio display has a PSU, logic boards and speakers behind the screen, and the whole lot can't be shrunk and encapsulated, and retain enough strength to support 2.6+Kgs..

So no. Apple can't reduce the size of the bezels by very much.

Greater than 60Hz panels will come, but so far at 5K+ they are conspicuous by their absence.
Until Apple pays for the screen panel industry to up their game and focus on greater than 4K 'gaming' panels, everything changes 'really slowly'... 😶
There are other 5K displays that seems to have smaller bezels than the Studio Display. What are they doing in order to shrink the bezels?
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Firstly, editing the marketing image by reducing the bezel in photoshop… 😳

Also:
Not having glass as the front panel, which structurally has to be supported at the edges.
Holding the weight of the panel from the rear, not by adhesive strips at the edges of the panel.
Having all the electronics held in place by substantial metal structures behind the screen.
Not having large internal speaker resonating 'cabinets',
Then covering all the rear of the monitor with a plastic outer case, and not worrying about overall depth...
 
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Edit:
Firstly, editing the marketing image by reducing the bezel in photoshop… 😳

Also:
Not having glass as the front panel, which structurally has to be supported at the edges.
Holding the weight of the panel from the rear, not by adhesive strips at the edges of the panel.
Having all the electronics held in place by substantial metal structures behind the screen.
Not having large internal speaker resonating 'cabinets',
Then covering all the rear of the monitor with a plastic outer case, and not worrying about overall depth...
Ok, but would they be able to shrink the bezels down to the same size as on the Pro Display XDR?
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Apparently the Pro XDR Display has the same size bezels as the Studio Display if you exclude the width needed for the webcam…
I don’t think Apple will remove the webcam just to allow thinner bezels.
 
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Apparently the Pro XDR Display has the same size bezels as the Studio Display if you exclude the width needed for the webcam…
I don’t think Apple will remove the webcam just to allow thinner bezels.
I wish they would...
 
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