set up the two sets of speakers as an aggregate output device — no speakers wasted that way. maybe you can aggregate the webcams too, rig it up so it's recording a stereo video of you, then you can appear as a VR Memoji.
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Apple Studio Display Owners Complain of High-Pitched Buzzing Sound Likely Caused By Electrical Interference
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So I read through this thread and it seams like Studio display owners are trying their best to defend their display. The studio display is a "lemon" and for those saying software updates will fix it smh. Its been several months or more and it still has bugs and it keeps getting more and more bugs.
You cannot defend a faulty device that's already defected from the start. I'm still laughing about it using a A10 processor for no true reason when it has a terrible webcam and it's only 60hz. Who buys a product at this price when half of the monitor is broken. It will continue to break so all studio owners, enjoy your broken expensive display (also enjoy the $400 stand/mount smh).
If the display itself breaks, you will defend it by saying Apple is allowing us to see it's cool local dimming effects even when the screen won't even power on.
You cannot defend a faulty device that's already defected from the start. I'm still laughing about it using a A10 processor for no true reason when it has a terrible webcam and it's only 60hz. Who buys a product at this price when half of the monitor is broken. It will continue to break so all studio owners, enjoy your broken expensive display (also enjoy the $400 stand/mount smh).
If the display itself breaks, you will defend it by saying Apple is allowing us to see it's cool local dimming effects even when the screen won't even power on.
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It’s not a lemon for 98% of users.
It has bugs because it as an OS. That’s not a hardware issue. An OS today can be updated to tune voltages running through every chip. That’s how they fixed the crackling sound issues in 2018 Macs.
Conversations like this are important for one reason though.
They show that no matter how big or wealthy a company is and how much talent they have, complex software development is hard.
Now with that in mind.
Apple and Microsoft and Linux devs can’t even make a bug free file explorer after making file explorers for a 3-4 decades.
Tesla’s “full self driving” isn’t real self driving after a decade, so many patches, so much learning, so much compute power thrown at it. Approximately, in an urban environment FSD is equivalent to someone who has drank 5 shots of vodka or sometimes 10 shots of vodka.
So does anyone really believe self driving cars will be a thing any time soon?
LG Ultrafine 5k is still an amazing option. Some find it a little bland and uninspiring, but it gets the job done and the display quality is great.
You can also remove the power cord....
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It's also half the price.The M8 has 44% less pixels, 200 fewer nits, worse color accuracy, narrower viewing angles, worse reflection handling, worse input lag, same 60 Hz refresh, worse USB-C hub speed, and worse USB-C power delivery.
It does have better contrast in a dark room and a lower price point.
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Although the Apple Studio Display and the Samsung Smart Monitor M8 S32BM80 look similar in style, they're very different monitors. The Apple is a 5k monitor meant for content creators as it has remarkable out-of-the-box accuracy and displays a wider range of colors in SDR than the Samsung...www.rtings.com
We buy what we need. I do graphic design - the M8 is ample for that. This whole argument that you MUST buy the ASD for any kind of graphical or photography work is utter crap. It's a fantastic screen, but it ain't worth anything near whats being asked for it, especially with all the fundimental design flaws. Heck if you need that level of display (and you dont, even if you think you do) then the LG's still a far better option.
Considering this is just the 5k panel from the 27” iMac of the last 5 years slapped into a new shell and being run by an A10 chip, it’s amazing the amount of issues these seem to be having.
Edit: sorry its an A13 not an A10
Also, why the angry and disagree reactions 😂 it is literally the same panel as has shipped in the 27" iMac for the last 5+ years just slapped into a new shell only now can't run macOS and yet they want to charge you the same price as a iMac is the biggest joke about the ASD lol
Edit: sorry its an A13 not an A10
Also, why the angry and disagree reactions 😂 it is literally the same panel as has shipped in the 27" iMac for the last 5+ years just slapped into a new shell only now can't run macOS and yet they want to charge you the same price as a iMac is the biggest joke about the ASD lol
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I work as a graphic designer, so obviously color is important to me. But I've also been doing it long enough that I don't even need the color to be 100% accurate because I know and understand color values (probably because my experience dates back to grayscale monitors and drum scanners).
That being said, I would love to buy an Apple-made display, but they are and always have been grossly overpriced and over-engineered. There was a time when I would have quickly indulged in the Studio Display. But time and experience has taught me better.
The Studio Display is the epitome of waste, in my opinion. The only positive quality about it (again, in my opinion) is the Retina resolution, which few monitors can brag – and it's so wonderfully sharp/easy on the eyes.
Everything else about it is unnecessary and overkill. And let's not even talk about price. The display itself is overpriced, and adding the cost to have the luxury of height adjustment is just obscene.
I replaced a dead LG Ultrafine 27" with an LG 34" 5K/2K display. It's not quite as bright as the Studio Display, but it's brighter than most. And unlike any 27" 5K display, you can actually use it at a full 5K resolution and still be able to see small UI elements on screen. It doesn't have a built-in webcam, but $100 fixes that problem, and allows me to place the camera wherever I want. It has more connection methods. It has tilt, swivel and height adjustment (at no extra cost). And even with webcam cost, it's hundreds of dollars less.
So as @chkay mentioned above, "we buy what we need."
That being said, I would love to buy an Apple-made display, but they are and always have been grossly overpriced and over-engineered. There was a time when I would have quickly indulged in the Studio Display. But time and experience has taught me better.
The Studio Display is the epitome of waste, in my opinion. The only positive quality about it (again, in my opinion) is the Retina resolution, which few monitors can brag – and it's so wonderfully sharp/easy on the eyes.
Everything else about it is unnecessary and overkill. And let's not even talk about price. The display itself is overpriced, and adding the cost to have the luxury of height adjustment is just obscene.
I replaced a dead LG Ultrafine 27" with an LG 34" 5K/2K display. It's not quite as bright as the Studio Display, but it's brighter than most. And unlike any 27" 5K display, you can actually use it at a full 5K resolution and still be able to see small UI elements on screen. It doesn't have a built-in webcam, but $100 fixes that problem, and allows me to place the camera wherever I want. It has more connection methods. It has tilt, swivel and height adjustment (at no extra cost). And even with webcam cost, it's hundreds of dollars less.
So as @chkay mentioned above, "we buy what we need."
I can second this. I'm a photographer myself (work with medium format film), and the differences between the 5K iMac and ASD are as clear as mud to someone who works with colour grading daily. Better highlights, better shadows, wider colour space and better viewing angles.
But I do love hearing from this armchair critics who have no need for the product in the first place, overblowing an isolated issue with power delivery and the quality of the webcam as being "so many problems!!".
There is no comparable product in the market - a 27" 5K resolution that allows you to view your work without pixelisation, over a billion colours in P3 and excellent Adobe RGB, 600-nits brightness... and that's before the speaker, microphone and camera, plus additional USB-C ports and AiO design.
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The hate towards the SD from people who don't own one and have no intention of owning one is odd. I don't think people are trying to defend anything. Many of us have a SD and think it's great. I don't care about speakers or a webcam, and really only wanted a 5k 27" screen that the SD delivers.
Complaining about the pricing on Apple products is as old as Apple itself. And let's be honest, if Apple dropped the speakers and webcam, they would have still charged the same. I wonder if Apple had just left them out completely would people have been happier...
One of my screens is an LG4k, and it's fine. The SD is absolutely better though. Is the cost for better worth it to everyone? IDK, but for many of us it is. Everyone makes their own value calculations just like I decided not to buy an XDR.
I have two. One centered in landscape and one in portrait off to the side. I just use the camera, microphone and speakers in the main one and ignore the ones in the other monitor. My MBP doesn’t really care the “extra” ones are attached.
Isolation transformer is probably more effective. A typical consumer grade UPS is only taking over when the supply power is outside the thresholds it monitors. You’d need one that is actively operating even when not running on battery.
Who said: "...you MUST buy the ASD for any kind of graphical or photography work is utter crap."
Or are you making stuff up?
86% Adobe RGB is good but not excellent.
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Only a minority of mainstream monitors have above 95% Adobe RGB. And those that do - for instance BenQ - there are typically trade-offs such as lower peak brightness and resolution.86% Adobe RGB is good but not excellent.
Apple Studio Display review: An excellent monitor at a steep price
Apple's new Studio Display is an extremely color accurate IPS LCD with a bunch of unique features and exceptional build quality. But with a price tag of $1,600, you really have to value those extra features. For Apple, this is a missed opportunity to give the creative community a smaller, more...
I just got my Studio Display a week ago. All in all I like it and also would recommend it.
But there are still some glitches:
1. sometimes the display is not recognized when connecting my MBP 16" (Intel)
2. even when the display is recognized sometime the video camera of the MBP is used instead of the camera of the Studio Display
3. the image captured by video camera (even when adjusting the Display as much as possible) is a little bit to "high" (so my head is just visible, my chest isn't)
Regarding 1. and 2. rebooting the MBP always helps, sometimes also disconnecting and re-connecting helps.
But there are still some glitches:
1. sometimes the display is not recognized when connecting my MBP 16" (Intel)
2. even when the display is recognized sometime the video camera of the MBP is used instead of the camera of the Studio Display
3. the image captured by video camera (even when adjusting the Display as much as possible) is a little bit to "high" (so my head is just visible, my chest isn't)
Regarding 1. and 2. rebooting the MBP always helps, sometimes also disconnecting and re-connecting helps.
Why would anyone want old 5k technology at this point if you look at images all day!
check out 8k monitors:
Almost four times the pixel density. 32 inches instead of tiny 27 inches. 280 ppi. Anti-reflective. Comes with adjustable stand standard.
100% Adobe RGB color gamut, 100% sRGB color gamut, 98% DCI-P3, 100% Rec 709 color gamut.
Its more expensive but it’s a tool for pros. Without the ****** web camera, iPhone hardware and OS, and other buggy extras built in.
How often do you need to buy a monitor that you can’t pay a little extra for much better technology, especially if you do paying work on it?
check out 8k monitors:
8K Monitor: Dell Ultrasharp UP3218K | Dell USA
Experience realistic images like never before on the award-wining, worldâs first 31.5" 8K monitor featuring Dell PremierColor.
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Almost four times the pixel density. 32 inches instead of tiny 27 inches. 280 ppi. Anti-reflective. Comes with adjustable stand standard.
100% Adobe RGB color gamut, 100% sRGB color gamut, 98% DCI-P3, 100% Rec 709 color gamut.
Its more expensive but it’s a tool for pros. Without the ****** web camera, iPhone hardware and OS, and other buggy extras built in.
How often do you need to buy a monitor that you can’t pay a little extra for much better technology, especially if you do paying work on it?
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I’ve got mine set up basically in a lab full of electronic test equipment and RF gear and it’s fine.
If there is a problem with EMI it’s generally the source that’s the problem in these cases. If it’s dimmers or chargers then they are probably not properly EMC tested and qualified and need to be reported and replaced.
And it’s not even about shielding here as the EMI is probably coming up the mains cable so this has some serious other consequences. This might be as far as your electrical installation being dangerous, which wouldn’t surprise me if you are the US.
If there is a problem with EMI it’s generally the source that’s the problem in these cases. If it’s dimmers or chargers then they are probably not properly EMC tested and qualified and need to be reported and replaced.
And it’s not even about shielding here as the EMI is probably coming up the mains cable so this has some serious other consequences. This might be as far as your electrical installation being dangerous, which wouldn’t surprise me if you are the US.
Er no, I'm not making stuff up. Read the comments in this thread. Several talk about the ASD being the 'only' display for 'professional photography', which is complete crap and they know it. Some also claimed it's the only 5k 27" display on the market- again, complete crap.
Hell you can get a 5K 27" monitor from some super shady crummy looking company called 'Iiyama' - reviews for it are utterly terrible but it exists.
And I've been using AirPods Max daily since last December, and they're fabulous as well. Not sure what the issue is 🤷🏼♂️
And, ironically, if people are so noise-sensitive with the Studio Display and Mac Studio, a pair of AirPods Max in ANC mode would solve it for them 🤣
I am finding it real difficult to believe that Apple's $1600 5k monitor is the best monitor for photo/digital media work. Hell I do not even think the higher end model is the best monitor either.
Probably a BenQ, Eizo or Dell. HP makes some high end monitors also. Anyone doing super serious video or film editing is going to have a uber expensive reference monitor and some sort of SDI video card/interface to drive it.
The biggest thing about Apple monitors that piss me off is that they are completely stupid when it comes to connectivity. Would it really be that hard to add a HDMI and/or a DisplayPort input?
Probably a BenQ, Eizo or Dell. HP makes some high end monitors also. Anyone doing super serious video or film editing is going to have a uber expensive reference monitor and some sort of SDI video card/interface to drive it.
The biggest thing about Apple monitors that piss me off is that they are completely stupid when it comes to connectivity. Would it really be that hard to add a HDMI and/or a DisplayPort input?
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I think the fixation with the Studio Display technically running iOS is very odd. It's like a HomePod, you plug the thing in and it just works as expected. (Well, maybe not always for the HomePods...) What does it matter if its running iOS or if they branded it as MonitorOS or whatever, everything these days has firmware. I am curious as to why it has an A13 and not a S chip, but what does that really matter anyways...
Nobody claimed it was the best monitor for photo/digital media work. What people who actually own one and are photographers, or involved in some other creative endeavor, are saying is it's the best value and offers the best image quality for the money.
"Probably a BenQ, Eizo or Dell. HP makes some high end monitors also. Anyone doing super serious video or film editing is going to have a uber expensive reference monitor and some sort of SDI video card/interface to drive it."
With your above proclamation, it sounds like you are a photographer. Is that correct? Which display do you use in your photo processing? And what kind of photography are you engaged in?
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