Ok it wasn’t when I looked last year. It’s 1399€ here in Germany.
I prefer to pay 400€ more to get a better quality display that fits perfectly into the design language of Apple.
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Apple Studio Display Reviews: 'A Confounding Miss'
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I prefer to pay 400€ more to get a better quality display that fits perfectly into the design language of Apple.
Seems to me that besides the 5K resolution this thing doesn’t offer much more than, say, a $700 Dell UltraSharp. It looks nice but not $2000 dollar nice with height adjustment. There was a day when Apple’s kit was reassuringly expensive. Now it’s just expensive.
Hopefully they’ll add a $500 option for a removable power cord soon ?Apple's Studio Display features a built-in non-removable power cable on the back that, even when attempted to be removed with force, does not come out, despite the Pro Display XDR featuring a removable power cable.
The power cord is removable https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...s.2338340/page-18?post=30945899#post-30945899
Even though I'm not really sure what that is we see there, Chancha explained it here, but I still can't see it. White mug before the display but behind the stand hole?
Honestly, that’s the only reason to get this Display over the only 5k contender. Personally I’ll wait to see the upcoming 27”Display offer but I suspect price will make me bloodless…
Sorry English is my second language, lemme try to rephrase it:
we are seeing from behind the stand of the display, through the hole that is intended for cable management;
the bottom half you are seeing the guy's desk, where he has a white mug lying around;
the top half is the back of the display body, the round shape of black is the socket, the 3 silver pins are the contacts;
finally the dangling black cable from the right edge of the photo is the cable itself, it is already pulled out and angled in a way to show us a sort of bayonet mechanism around the "disc" at the end of the cable.
we can't see whats inside the disc but we can assume 3 metal contacts corresponding to those 3 pins. To my knowledge this is non-standard / proprietary.
When installed the cable cannot be pulled straight out, which some of the reviewers tried and failed thus they concluded the cable is permanently built-in.
The consensus believes that Apple can reduce the price to $1299. There is no hard drive and M1 in it, therefore the thickness can be reduced by 40% to avoid extra high costs.
Apple can reduce the thickness and remove the webcam, speakers, microphone and A13 to bring the price point down to $1299 without a hitch.
Why do people keep making these baseless claims over and over and over again, without having tested the difference between 4K on 27" screen and 5K on 27" screen? There's a vast, noticeable difference. I have 5K 27" panel, 4K 27" panel, and 4k 24" panel right here on my desk, and it is pretty strange to see these dumb comments about "hurr you can't really see the difference durr" in every thread.
I believe macOS only renders at 5K if you set a 2560x1440 UI resolution
If I set the "looks like resolution" to be 3360 x 1890
then in System Profiler it reports the GPU is rendering at 6720 x 3780
So it is always doubling the visual resolution, then downscale it back to your panel's native resolution.
Some folks in this thread are arguing as long as you don't scale by integer then you lose so much sharpness it is unacceptable, therefore deeming most of the 27" 4k displays out there not real alternatives. (which I don't agree but to which their own)
The typically accepted visual resolution of a 27" display at desk distance is probably 2560x1440, so that the 5K with 200% scaling is a kind of de facto standard, at least Apple keeps putting out 27" 5K iMacs they must be thinking along that line.
The problem is 4kUHD being the 16:9 video content standard by proxy, and game consoles as well, therefore the market is driven to make 4kUHD panels almost exclusively.
At this point in time we are seeing so many "good" 27" 4k alternatives including ones mentioned in this thread, some have clearly better specs than the Studio Display in one way or the other but never at 5k resolution. I guess it depends on which you value more, sharpness or other attributes, especially concerning color critical professional workflows.
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Fully agree with the criticism it's receiving. $1500 for a monitor that doesn't support HDR or 120Hz (not even 144Hz) refresh is a huge L.
It definitely echoes the Apple of old. A non-ecosystem critical product, par for the course specs within it's ecosystem, at and extortionate price when there are way better alternatives out there for the cost. It's an expensive piece of aluminium.
LG could easily mop-up here with an affordable alternative, but even then, 4K to 5K is not the be all and end all either.
It definitely echoes the Apple of old. A non-ecosystem critical product, par for the course specs within it's ecosystem, at and extortionate price when there are way better alternatives out there for the cost. It's an expensive piece of aluminium.
LG could easily mop-up here with an affordable alternative, but even then, 4K to 5K is not the be all and end all either.
macOS works best if the actual resolution of the display is 2x the "looks like" resolution. This way the UI is rendered pixel-to-pixel. It just happens that if you have a 27" 4K display then the UI is too big when using default 2x looks like 1080x1920 resolution. Once you use the scaled option the GPU needs to render 2x the scaled option and then remap those pixels to fit the actual 4K resolution. This ends up using much more power and also causes minor artefacts.
I wish Huawei made the Mateview Pro in a more rectangular aspect ratio compared to the square-ish one it is right now. I'd pick that up in a heartbeat.
So just to get this straight, you think that a bunch of "internet influencers" were given early access to Apple products and they all just purposefully, and conveniently decided to trash the display, for reasons, and that your own experience (of which you have none yet, with this display) is what you trust more here when it comes to you buying a display that's full of features you don't need, but you're willing to pay for anyway, despite all of the negative first impressions, again, for reasons.
Makes sense.
Not sure if this is sarcasm but the hideous MBP notch was added just for that reason...
For me the default for the 5k iMac is too large so I run at native resolution. There aren't issues running a 27" 4k monitor at native resolution is there? I assumed that the issues are when you want to scale but maybe I'm missing something.
I don't think I can go back to a lower resolution so I'll stick with the new Studio Display but I'm curious in case I change my mind.
Are people still complaining about this? I literally don't even notice it. I mean sure, from an overall design perspective, I wish it wasn't there, but it's not like it stands out horribly always. I totally forget that it's there.
In a previous thread, I got massively booed for daring to suggest that there are many quality , yet cheaper monitors from other brands to go with your Mac.
But nooooo, it has either to be branded Apple or nothing ( people who need Apple products for social validation, not because they appreciate some of their qualities ): https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...play-xdr.2329810/?post=30744750#post-30744750
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You can always buy the VESA ASD and Generic VESA Stand (which is at least equivilant to the LG's wobbly one) for $50. So the ASD really its only a $350 difference with better speakers, better webcam, nicer chassis and better OSX integration.
If only 10% buy these, Apple will be happy
Can you share a pic showing the difference? There aren‘t any stores here where you can see them side by side. I was giving the Studio Display serious consideration, but resolution is the primary differentiator between this and 4K options for my use case so would be great to see what you‘re seeing.
Almost Twice the brightness and 33% more pixels.
If each pixel is worth a percentage, you're up to $1000 on that alone.
Then Factor in:
Brightness +$100
Camera($150)
Decent speakers ($50)
Noise Cancelling Mic ($50)
Machined aluminum chassis ($100)
OS integration + $100
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Total: $1550
Pretty close to the 1599 selling price of the ASD
So you need to choose the VESA version + $50 for a DELL equivilant height adjustable stand, lets chalk that up to Apple Tax.
Sure, It's not cheap, its not for everyone, but not massively overpriced given the specs.
5K is the only reason to buy this or the LG 5k. IF you don't care about that, there are tons of better choices. Personally, being used to 5k imacs, I do prefer the 5k screens, so stuck with the big price.
$1599 is a lot to start with. Looks like better to search for alternatives. Hopefully webcam quality can be fixed by software update.