Apple Submits Revised Campus 2 Plans, Delays Tantau Development to Cut Costs

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  1. MacRumors macrumors bot


    Apr 12, 2001

    Earlier this month, a report revealed that Apple's upcoming "spaceship" campus in Cupertino is both behind schedule and $2 billion over budget. Apple was said to be looking to cut costs on the project, which is apparent in the revised campus plans that it submitted to the city today.

    Apple originally planned on constructing a 600,000 square foot area of buildings (known as the Tantau Development) in two phases. Phase 1 was to take place alongside the construction of the main Apple campus, while Phase 2 would be delayed until later.

    In order to trim 300,000 square feet of construction costs from its budget, Apple has pushed the entire Tantau Development to Phase 2, which means it will be completed after the main campus is built.
    Apple's revised campus plan includes the addition of an expanded section detailing bicycle access improvements, which comes with an included visualization of what bike pathways and sidewalks might look like on the campus.

    Also notable in the plan is a minor increase to parking availability and updates to public improvements, as well as a new section on Public Art that details four locations where the company plans to install art near the campus.

    Apple Campus 2's budget rests near $5 billion, which is said to be because Steve Jobs insisted on design quality and expensive construction methods. The Campus, a circular 2,800,000 square foot 4-story building, is designed to hold 12,000 employees and has a prospective completion date of 2016.

    Article Link: Apple Submits Revised Campus 2 Plans, Delays Tantau Development to Cut Costs
  2. komodrone macrumors 6502

    Apr 26, 2011
    burning question is, "will we have free wifi"? :rolleyes:
    (referencing the proposal video)
  3. ArtOfWarfare macrumors G3


    Nov 26, 2007
  4. JayCee842 macrumors 6502a


    Jan 21, 2013
    After reading "The Innovators Dilemma" I now understand the idea behind this project. Very wise choice by Steve.
  5. BornAgainMac macrumors 603


    Feb 4, 2004
    Florida Resident
    I wonder if Apple will wait until the Campus is built and they move in before they work on the Mac Pro?
  6. 3282868 macrumors 603

    Jan 8, 2009
    My friends who work at Pixar bike from San Fran (take their bikes on the train), a lot of people do. Apple isn't close enough to the city, however I'd like to see Apple give incentives to workers who bike. It'd cut down on traffic, parking lots and long term maintenance costs. The weather is temperate for most of the year.
  7. HiRez macrumors 603


    Jan 6, 2004
    Western US
    That sounds more like delaying costs than cutting costs.
  8. joneill55 macrumors 6502

    Sep 11, 2007

    How about the "incentive" of good health and a greener planet. Isn't that enough of an incentive for bikers/walkers?? Works for me!

    Why do some people think the employer needs to pony up in the equation? Walking or biking is the ultimate think global and act local at its finest! I don't need any incentive to act responsible and help the planet for future generations.
  9. dennno macrumors regular

    Jul 22, 2011
    Would love to work in a place like this. Much better than overly tall 100 floor skyscrapers on cramped busy streets.
  10. rGiskard macrumors 68000


    Aug 9, 2012
    So "Tantau" is the code name for the new Mac Pro, right?
  11. Gemütlichkeit macrumors 65816


    Nov 17, 2010
  12. chriscrk macrumors 6502a


    Nov 14, 2011
    Planet Earth (?)
    But it's important to provide places to "park" the bikes. If you don't have a safe place to keep your bike, you most likely won't want to cycle to wherever it is you're going. It's not just a moral or fitness thing.

    Plenty of city studies and interventions have shown that just the act of providing safe spaces to keep bikes increases the amount of cycling (we went over that in urbanism today lol).
  13. olifds macrumors newbie

    Apr 24, 2013
    In french the prononciation of Tantau comes from the word ''tantôt'' wich means later! So yes, ''Tantau'' is obviously the new code name for the Mac Pro.
  14. charlituna macrumors G3


    Jun 11, 2008
    Los Angeles, CA
    I recall an article a year or so ago that mentioned that they already do and have for a while. Like $50 a month to any worker, even retail ones, for bike maintenance or transit pass fees.
  15. 3282868 macrumors 603

    Jan 8, 2009
    Excellent points, and I agree completely. Some people do though, until it becomes more common (I hope). :)


    Never knew, great info, thanks! :)
  16. maxxumless macrumors newbie

    Apr 24, 2013
    Could Cut $2 Billion Easy

    If they built in Nevada or Texas they would save $2 billion easy. I'm sure they got tax breaks, but nothing near what other states would give. There's states that would actually 'pay' Apple to build that monstrosity.
  17. tdtran1025 macrumors 6502


    Dec 26, 2011
    Pay employees a little more, give free train/bus tickets to those who ride bikes. The. There won't be a brain drain like that of the early 90's.
  18. Derpage Suspended

    Mar 7, 2012
    Yeah, but then you would have to live in X, where X is any city that isn't in the Bay Area. The Bay Area is still considered the epicenter of Tech and Tech Capital.
  19. SchneiderMan macrumors G3


    May 25, 2008
  20. carlgo macrumors 68000

    Dec 29, 2006
    Monterey CA
    So, they are going ahead to build this thing? So 1939 and not in a good way.
  21. iChrist macrumors 65816


    Sep 7, 2011
    3 countries for tax benefit

    Because it saves the company on parking and healthcare costs. hello?

  22. theheadguy macrumors 65816

    Apr 26, 2005
    get over this dude. they approved the project. move on.
  23. thundersteele macrumors 68030

    Oct 19, 2011
    1740 parking spots for 2200 employees... way to go green Apple.

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