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awesome working space!!
i'm sure it will boost productivity for the people working there.
 
Really? Around here construction costs for a cheaply built home are closer to $250/foot. I would think that in the Bay Area costs are easily as much or more.

I suppose if you build a house with no basement and no furnace, costs are lower, like in Florida. But $170/foot? Really? Wow.


You can easily build a high-level, nicely trimmed 3500 sqft house in Ohio (and most of the midwest) for $450,000 (~$128/sqft). That includes full basement, hardwood floors, etc.
 
I'm confused why $2 billion is a big deal to Apple when they are trying to create the best campus possible. They have more money on hand than the US government and would make that money back relatively quick. Oh well, it's their money, do as they please.

Because that money belongs to the shareholders and shareholders would rather the company fire everyone than lose money.
 
I'd like to see Apple give incentives to workers who bike. It'd cut down on traffic, parking lots and long term maintenance costs. The weather is temperate for most of the year.

But isn't avoiding traffic & spending $ on gas the incentive? I don't get an incentive to take mass transit to work but I do b/c it's quicker & less wear & tear on my car.

That sounds more like delaying costs than cutting costs.

Yes and ultimately more expensive as raw materials & labor will likely cost more later on. But we don't know the whole story here regard what else is being done to lower costs. All we have are public statements, not literally nuts & bolts building plans.

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I truly understand how much cash on hand Apple deals with but HOW do you get two BILLION dollars over budget? :eek:

It's easy to overspend when you build from dreams & wish lists and eyes off a budget. Look at how many people amass huge CC balances & have no idea how they ended up w/ $10k of debt & nothing to show for it.
 
I hope they don't stop the development it was supposed to occur in Tantau. I really like to see this building finished.
 
You can easily build a high-level, nicely trimmed 3500 sqft house in Ohio (and most of the midwest) for $450,000 (~$128/sqft). That includes full basement, hardwood floors, etc.

Around here, $450k buys you a crappy older ranch house, or a 2 bedroom condo.
 
I guess it's a good thing none of the geniuses in this thread will ever have to worry about working for Apple, then, since this building is such an apparent disaster. Not that anyone here knows anything about architecture or running billion dollar corporations.
 
If they built in Nevada or Texas they would save $2 billion easy. I'm sure they got tax breaks, but nothing near what other states would give. There's states that would actually 'pay' Apple to build that monstrosity.


But then it would be in Texas or Nevada, not where arguably some of the most brilliant engineering talent currently reside. That dog an't gonna hunt with the Big "A"!
 
I guess it's a good thing none of the geniuses in this thread will ever have to worry about working for Apple, then, since this building is such an apparent disaster. Not that anyone here knows anything about architecture or running billion dollar corporations.

So since you are either an Apple employee or an expert in running billion dollar companies and architecture, care to enlighten us rubes?
 
If I were Tim Cook, new CEO ...

... I would have taken Steve Jobs initial 'interesting' idea for the circular office building and gone a few steps further and expanded that concept into a multi-story APPLE LOGO office building that could be identifiable from space. The multi-story leaf section would be 3 stories higher than the main building and would house the senior executives. The top floor of the leaf would be the CEO's domain and would overlook the entire quasi-circular structure below. The curved 'bite' section would offer a very imposing entrance below a spectacular dynamic mirrored art work of some sort. Tim Cook would definitely have made his mark with such a design change. Come on Tim, it's still not too late ... assert yourself!
 
Urban planner here. Sidewalks need to be wider.

Need to be wider why? You might be an Urban planner but this isn't a high pedestrian density urban area. Most of these sidewalk views appear to be at the edges of the Apple campus. If you go to the campus border now there are not large number of people walking the sidewalks. That really isn't going to change much after Apple moves in.

It is very similar in just about every technology park/village/office complex in Silicon Valley. There are small number of corner case exceptions where perhaps a central cafeteria is in one bldg and there is abnormally large foot traffic flow from the expansion campus across the street for lunch, but typically there is no large foot traffic around the edges of a campus.
 
I truly understand how much cash on hand Apple deals with but HOW do you get two BILLION dollars over budget? :eek:

You have to realise that Apple isn't actually over budget, but that someone made some calculations that show Apple _could_ pay 2 billion more than someone's guess at a budget _if_ something that Steve Jobs said at some point during his life was an absolute law that Apple could never, ever get around. If Mrs. Jobs stated that Steve Jobs wanted gold plated desks for everyone then suddenly they would be $4 billion over budget.
 
I'm confused why $2 billion is a big deal to Apple when they are trying to create the best campus possible. They have more money on hand than the US government and would make that money back relatively quick. Oh well, it's their money, do as they please.

Even more confusing to me is why Apple has no problem pouring money into a building while letting pro apps and computers grow obsolete. How much would it cost to hire a few dozen more programmers and engineers to develop new versions of Aperture and the Mac Pro?

I used to think of Apple as a company that sunk their profits back into R&D as an investment in the company's future. Maybe that was just Jobs's RDF?
 
Even more confusing to me is why Apple has no problem pouring money into a building while letting pro apps and computers grow obsolete. How much would it cost to hire a few dozen more programmers and engineers to develop new versions of Aperture and the Mac Pro?

I used to think of Apple as a company that sunk their profits back into R&D as an investment in the company's future. Maybe that was just Jobs's RDF?

I'm confused about where you think they would put those employees if they didn't build a bigger campus. :confused:
 
I think it's no coincidence that Steve Jobs really focused a lot on this new campus towards the end of his life. He probably felt that this new campus plan and design would keep the innovative spirit at Apple alive long after he's gone. Just like he did with Pixar. Anyone who knows anything about the Pixar building can see this new Apple campus will have an even greater effect on Apple than it did at Pixar.
 
And you probably think we in the middle of the country are the idiots.

But didn't you hear? Coastal hipsters paying $4k/month in rent/mtg for a 500sf bungalow near Pike Place in Seattle are smart and no doubt brimming at the cusp with profound insight. Meanwhile, families of six who can live like Saudi shiekhs in suburban Oklahoma City on only a $40k single income, with a 5000sf ranch house, detached garage, workshop, lawn, lake dock, fishing boat, BBQ patio, and fully-fitted downstairs home theater, are idiot morons who worship Sarah Palin and can barely string two coherent words together.
 
Landscaping?

Why do they have such tall grass in all the artist renderings? Are they going to put money in the budget for landscaping, or will it look like a forgotten field when the campus opens?
 
Bike lanes need to be physically separated from the other traffic. A bit of green paint on the road won't prevent accidents.
 
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