I think what you're talking about is called a "Mon-AAPL-ly" 
edit: Yep, Apple is up $16.10 today.
edit: Yep, Apple is up $16.10 today.
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Apple Subpoenaed for Details on iOS Search Deal in Google Antitrust Investigation
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I remember WebCrawler as THE choice before altavista.digital.com took its place. Now, of course, it's all google, although I tend to like duckduckgo.
I refuse to use Bing because honestly I detest Microsoft, I have for many years (that comes from me being in love with Mac OS since the age of 10 and seeing that Windows is such a pitiful excuse for an OS and a copycat system)
That said, if Bing is really as bad as the Metro UI looks, then no wonder it's not taking off really. The only people using Bing will be IE users who have Bing set as the default search engine for Internet Explorer....that will be Windows and Windows phone, mainly.
Pretty much most Apple, iOS, and Android users will all still be using Google.
That said, if Bing is really as bad as the Metro UI looks, then no wonder it's not taking off really. The only people using Bing will be IE users who have Bing set as the default search engine for Internet Explorer....that will be Windows and Windows phone, mainly.
Pretty much most Apple, iOS, and Android users will all still be using Google.
It's not a matter of "kick backs" either. Neither Google nor Apple have made any secret over the arrangement whereby Google pays Apple a certain percentage of the mobile-search advertising revenue it earns by dint of being the default search engine.
The issue is whether Google is a) manipulating search results so as to favor its advertisers and b) otherwise mis-using its position as the leading Search provider to stifle competition in the online advertising business.
Lets just be perfectly clear on this: There is nothing wrong, legally or ethically, with Google paying to be the default search engine on iOS devices, nor with Apple receiving those payments.
Apple will state, with considerable justification, that at present Google offers its users the best search results. And there always remains the option, for those iOS customers who desire it, to change your search provider. (You can download the Bing App in the App Store, if nothing else.)
Lastly, a general comment about Legal matters in general.
The market for smart telephones and mobile computing is positively immense. Its estimated, in total (ie. subscription fees paid by subscribers, handset sales, advertising, messaging and other sources) to approach $1.5 trillion annually by the middle of this decade.
That is an incredible ocean of money, second only to the amount spent on petroleum (about $3 trillion). It is also concentrated in a business that is subject to rapid changes, both economic, social, and technical. Its also an industry that literally did not exist fifteen years ago.
Nobody should be surprised, alarmed, or distressed that large multinational companies, as well as the Government agencies that regulate them, should engage in legal cases to resolve the multitude of disputes that have sprung up as this industry has developed. Going to court, filing lawsuits and seeking injunctions, while tedious and often baffling to the average person, is the way civilized companies and people settle their differences; and is immeasurably preferable to car bombs and assassinations, which is how gangsters and criminals settle their quarrels.
The progress and outcomes of these many legal cases have had, and will continue to have, profound effects on the way we will use technology in the future. These cases will also have lasting results on the financial prospects (to say nothing of the share prices) of the companies involved.
For that reason, the progress of the many legal cases surrounding the mobile smartphone and computing business is of intense, personal financial interest to a great many people, including many of those who read and contribute to these forums. If one finds the news of another lawsuit unsettling, might I suggest the simple expedient of not reading it.
you mean the only good search engine.
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Endless legal matters are getting boring
boring for you maybe, but these legal battles can bring in a lot of cash.
you can divide the articles up into lots of categories, but this would just mean many slower blogs as opposed to one main, active one.
if the legal stories are bothering you then just scroll down, we aren't forcing you to read them.
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both of you should be using what you find best for your needs, not the service of the company you don't hate.
there is no need to hold grudges against companies now is there?
Google use to be a good search engine but lately it has really been bad in giving me relevant search results especially when I search for tech problems I want to pull my hair out trying to find anything that is not from 2005 which is not even related to the product and it keeps searching common words and numbers given me unrelated results with those words in it. Also there so called SafeSearch is anything but safe. I do get offensive results which means it is completely useless.
Google is now trying to become the next Facebook, Twitter and Apple. They don't care about giving you relevant search results anymore.
Google is now trying to become the next Facebook, Twitter and Apple. They don't care about giving you relevant search results anymore.
Oh please, Microsoft. You shouldn't be talking, Mr. Bing-is-default-in-IE. That's probably the least anticompetitive thing MS does, in fact.
And who even uses any smartphone besides iOS and Droid and any search engine besides Google? It's not that the competition is being unfairly destroyed, it's that the competition SUCKS. Windows Phone?
The funny thing is that AOL's AIM is still 5x better than Google's chat service.
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Now THIS is a serious iOS fanboy. Using Bing? That's insanity. Shouldn't you be using Yahoo if you want to be so anti-anti-Apple?
Although I DID quit YouTube as an uploader because the new channel layout is horrible with its grey look and violates my privacy with the "Feed" tab, which shows the world what I've been watching and commenting on.
And who even uses any smartphone besides iOS and Droid and any search engine besides Google? It's not that the competition is being unfairly destroyed, it's that the competition SUCKS. Windows Phone?
The funny thing is that AOL's AIM is still 5x better than Google's chat service.
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Now THIS is a serious iOS fanboy. Using Bing? That's insanity. Shouldn't you be using Yahoo if you want to be so anti-anti-Apple?
Although I DID quit YouTube as an uploader because the new channel layout is horrible with its grey look and violates my privacy with the "Feed" tab, which shows the world what I've been watching and commenting on.
I say the state should eff both of them, god knows both are capable of pretty much buying up half if not all of latin America, at a time when the global economy is at one hell of a recession, and none of them, esp. Apple isn't doing much to give back to the communities they engage in. Eff em both. Antitrust and hard fines do all of us good, when they come hard on mega rich corporations.
Someone said that Google did a test and tried making a certain search term take you to some random page that had nothing to do with it. Sure enough, searching that on Bing actually took you to that page.
Also, I tried a few tests. The search results were the same. The difference was that Bing was slower and had a jumbled, horrible site.
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You know what Apple is doing? Giving everyone Apple products and paying money to the US in taxes. They also create way more jobs than those stupid stimulus packages, and the jobs are better and last longer. I don't see why rich companies are evil if they help so much... unless they are Microsoft, which destroys other companies through questionable tactics.
They are not really paying that many taxes when they don't want to get their capital back and they are hard bargaining to reduce it to a ridiculous amount of taxation....
Bs jobs they create, for the amount of money they earn, thats why their pr machine had to resort to claiming they created jobs by including the ups guys and the people who built the ups trucks....
I didn't say they are evil, I said they should cough up the money and give back to the communities, they are mega rich and they will not be hurt if they are forced to give something back.
Btw, who are those 3 people that downvoted my post? If you guys don't work for either of them you must be arch masochists... Let both of these uber filthy mega rich corporations have their way with you then, it's because of people thinking the way you do that the world is in such a sad state with 2/3 of humanity literally starving...
Microsoft complaining to the government about anticompetitive practices. Let us pause to appreciate the irony.
Okay, I'm done.
Okay, I'm done.
No doubt Apple are trying to reduce the exposure of iOS to Google. That takes time though.
- Mail, Contacts, Calendars: iCloud
- Ads: iAd
- Maps: Apple are long-rumoured to be going in to this after investing in several mapping companies. However, map data is typically caught up in horrible licensing terms. It's tricky.
- Search: Siri. Search engines are like car engines: I don't care that I have a 6L V8 engine - that has no value to me. I like that I can go fast. That has value. Similarly with search engines, Google hold no value to me. They get me to the right information quickly, which has value.
This is where Siri comes in. Google isn't just about websites, it's about information. Siri has the potential to be even quicker and even easier than Google at finding you the information you would have searched the web for. It's early days, but that's why Google is worried. Lots of people still type full questions in to search engines.
I can't think of any other significant areas where Google services tie in to iOS beside those 4. Those are the main battlefronts.
Apple aren't approaching this in the typical business way of signing with someone else: when they go to try and get rid of Google from iOS, they're going to beat Google at what it does on iOS with better products. Maybe they'll even keep that contract going while they do it, if Google think it's worth so much to them.
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They are not really paying that many taxes when they don't want to get their capital back and they are hard bargaining to reduce it to a ridiculous amount of taxation....
Bs jobs they create, for the amount of money they earn, thats why their pr machine had to resort to claiming they created jobs by including the ups guys and the people who built the ups trucks....
I didn't say they are evil, I said they should cough up the money and give back to the communities, they are mega rich and they will not be hurt if they are forced to give something back.
Btw, who are those 3 people that downvoted my post? If you guys don't work for either of them you must be arch masochists... Let both of these uber filthy mega rich corporations have their way with you then, it's because of people thinking the way you do that the world is in such a sad state with 2/3 of humanity literally starving...
They pay 10% tax just on sale, leaving the rest of the taxes alone. They hire as many workers as they actually need, which is a lot (there's another article that had the actual number).
Do you want them to just give their money away because they are rich? If they did that, they would be low on business, and people like you would start trying to sue them for destroying jobs.
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That's what I was mentioning. The weird part is, I don't get the same results anymore like I used to. Try searching "test" on Google AND Bing.
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This is probably their most flawed lawsuit yet. Microsoft is the most antitrust company I can think of.
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I don't see the point of all this. Why doesn't Apple just let Google have search and not alienate people with non-Google search? All they really need to compete with is Google's Chrome/Droid campaign. Google doesn't even have it all together, and they don't make a PC to make it all useful.
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I don't know why even Google paid Apple to make it a default search engine on iOS, or Mac, or whatever. I mean I always try as best to change my search engine to Google if it is not by default on any browser settings. And I believe most people on the internet would do the same. Just make it available, it doesn't even have to be default as long as it's there, people would still try to back to Google. Hey where is my Google, I dont want B or Y search engine. Gimme my google back!
It's not like Google have to try advertise or proof anything anymore if we're talking about search engine. It's the best one on earth already. Does any other bribery really necessary, Google?
I don't know why even Google paid Apple to make it a default search engine on iOS, or Mac, or whatever. I mean I always try as best to change my search engine to Google if it is not by default on any browser settings. And I believe most people on the internet would do the same. Just make it available, it doesn't even have to be default as long as it's there, people would still try to back to Google. Hey where is my Google, I dont want B or Y search engine. Gimme my google back!
It's not like Google have to try advertise or proof anything anymore if we're talking about search engine. It's the best one on earth already. Does any other bribery really necessary, Google?
If the Govt is going to look into Google being the go-to search engine on the iPhone, the best selling cellphone on the planet, then they should also look into why Apple forces its customers to use Safari as the default browser.
I don't know. People are pretty dumb and lazy. The cellphone is all about convenience - getting tasks done fast and efficiently. I'm not too sure people would (1) notice that they're not using Google anymore or (2) want to take the time to change it.
I don't know. People are pretty dumb and lazy. The cellphone is all about convenience - getting tasks done fast and efficiently. I'm not too sure people would (1) notice that they're not using Google anymore or (2) want to take the time to change it.
They return similar results, but are not the same. I work for an Search Engine Optimization company for a living. We know the engines inside and out. Bing has less around 15% marketshare and Google has a little over 60%. If Bing and Google were using one resource such as Google's algorithm, it would be a form of collusion. Google and Bing are competitors and do not share anything.
Yahoo! used Google a long time ago and currently uses Bing.
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Bing has been accused of producing similar SERPS to Google, but it does not actually use it. Both sites have similar value on backlinks, domain/page authority, etc. so there will be overlap. Bing does not have an API or pull results from Google. MS could definitely find Google's footprint/reverse engineer something similar to Google's organic search. But it's not using Google directly.
As stated earlier, I work for a ver large SEO company. While some queries may return similar results, rankings do indeed vary for our clients between Google and Bing.
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