Developers have been using paid APIs for a long time for various use cases. I think the complaint is that there are some private APIs that are not available for 3rd party watches, paid or free.
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It’s really hard to see any of these accusations having merit, but as the Masimo lawsuit has shown, Apple needs to be lucky every time, while the DOJ only needs to get lucky just once.
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not that difficult to switch... hardly a locked in monopoly hold that forces people to stay...
I have read and watched the complaint. It was fairly lackluster. Wishy washy even. Motherhoody.
Like what exactly does "consumer preferences" mean? A thousand different things to different users and Apple?
Anticompetitive conduct? You can buy an Android phone easily. Cheaper often. With many of the same apps ready to download and run. You can swap over from an Apple device... websites tell you how easy and seamless it is.
But perhaps the worry is the net flow to iOS devices ranges between 11% and 15% for the past few years. Hmmm. These are switchers not people locked in mercilessly to the evil Apple Empire. They chose the path to swap over.
Google paid the millions of dollars to be the default Search engine. Why? Because it sees a value in being there placing ads and capturing as much user data to sell on. Even if Apple limit the data flow. Google needs Apple. And it knows it. And pays.
"Apple selectively compromises privacy and security interests when doing so is in Apple’s own financial interest—... offering governments ... more private and secure versions of app stores" should read "Apple complies with app store requirements in some countries as the government decrees". They didnt want to say China. But the EU is also forcing security changes onto Apple. And business operating in another country has to obey the laws of that land. Forced to not chose to.
As I said initially, wishy washy "arguments".
Malware. I'm talking about MALWARE. Hidden pieces of code that sneak onto your device from click-bait and other trickery. Users don't install it themselves. The DOJ/EU want Apple to change iOS so that MALWARE can sneak onto your iPhone. Just like it does on Macs and PCs. I don't want that. Nobody in their right minds should want that.
Your constant anti Apple comments make me wonder why you are on here?
You want Apple slapped.
The DMA was brought about by whinging lobby groups for Epic and Sportify in the EU.
The DoJ ... well who knows why? Their aims dont seem particularly clear on what they want to achieve...
I repeat, would you be happy if Apple charged for access to these private APIs?
You can equivocate if you want, I would much rather mess up in Australia vs. China. Australia vs. EU. (and further break out individual countries within the EU vs. China, one can't just talk in black and white terms, ask yourself though why Apple might be more prone to fighting the EU vs. fighting China.
In addition you are using a technique called whataboutism, my main point is that you can't fully consider yourself a company with high values and take China's money without ever criticizing their human rights violations, maybe Tim Cook has been brave in the past on this issue, prove me wrong, if not, my argument stands.
And furthermore, China is a growing superpower, they have huge influence around the world, so yes, I am focusing on them right now vs. Zimbabwe, wait, wait, something is happening in Greenland, I have to end the discussion.
Nope. 3rd party apps shouldn't have direct access to my fingerprint data, Face ID, credit card details or other stuff.
It's why I like Apple, my credit card details are in one safe place and 3rd party apps or website cannot steal my information.
iOS is far superior to Mac. So why should iOS downgrade to Mac OS?
The Mac is selling as much as the iPad, that is how bad the Mac is.
Apple has many times worked to ensure better labour conditions in China and elsewhere when other tech companies couldnt give a damn. Their policy on energy and greener production (using recycled metal) and cutting hazardous chemicals as well. Changing packaging. Removing chargers from new sales.
Name another company that has done more, willing, and first that is the same size as Apple...
That will be for sure an argument that Apple will present, but it doesn't mean the DoJ doesn't have its own arguments as of why it's not so easy in reality.
No, the EU want Apple to give you a choice in the matter on iOS. Installing third-party application stores requires the user to actively do so.
Furthermore... I don't know which distorted view of Macs and PCs is that assumes they are bound to be riddled by malware: it's simply not the case for many users that employ a modicum of prudence in their choices.
I was actually asking @Beautyspin this (again).
The APIs being discussed were messaging APIs so non Apple Watches could code to send messages directly.
All the security APIs should only be used, and seem to be already, to flag the app you are verified not give them the biometrics data. Banks let you select if you want to use Face ID to validate yourself. Other apps too.
If Apple allowed a case by case API access and charged for it, would people be happy?
Again: Because of market share. macOS is not a viable target for scum, iOS is. If macOS had a market share anywhere near iOS, we would be flooded with malware and forced to use antivirus software etc. just like Windows, possibly worse.
Have dealt with more than enough cases on users accidentally installing virus over the years.
There is a surge in phone scams lately. "click here to pay for your parcel to be delivered".
Imagine if those links took you to a phone malware site...
Had an elderly (reasonably tech savvy for 90) resident install something on her Android phone.
It went into Super God mode and locked up so badly even the phone shop couldnt restore it.
She bought a new phone.
Opening iOS to the potential of bad actors finding new vectors is a real risk.
And saying you can choose not to go to an alt app store doesnt get around it.
Apple have been forced to change the iOS code to allow alt stores. The code loophole is there waiting for you to select it ON EVERY PHONE even in non EU countries as it wasnt a branched version.
Then there are users who move countries.
If you are in the EU and select an alt app store, install apps and then move outside, there is a grace period the apps will still work. But another potential exploit hole exists...
PCs and Macs come from a different era of installing software.
iOS was designed to be tighter control from the start.
They are different.
Just another excuse for keeping multiple legal teams and their investigative officers gainfully employed for a few more years at the cost of the taxpayer.
I'm guessing that Apple will have a nice video showing the process is simple and effective...
Do better research, most of those politicians got rich before they ever ran for the Senate or the House, the average paper pushing bureaucrat makes a modest salary, further what are we talking about here, because certain local governments do create patronage jobs with excessive salaries and perks, often because one party, R or D dominates a locality for decades, you have situations with unions basically negotiating with themselves and collective bargaining goes out the window, so decade after decade the salaries and benefits of said unions get crazy, whatever side you are on, power corrupts all.
Your first paragraph is hyperbolic, if Apple allows the government a backdoor into your phone, they can play a large part in getting you arrested.
Apple probably has more knowledge about your life or Google/Samsung if you use Android than the federal government.
You speak or write in generalities, according to you, all taxes and fees have one motivating goal, Western governments are copying China's totalitarian methods and pursuing the same goals as the Chinese Politburo, can you cite specifics please.
I can think of one tax that had a specific goal, Obamacare tax on people making above $400k per year, they got hit with an additional 4 percent, I'm not a fan of heavy taxes, but that particular tax was levied to help pay for the ACA, you can like or hate Obamacare, now you can argue further that Obamacare is government looking to take over healthcare, fine, fine, argue all you want, but taxes generally pay for things you use every day in your life, doesn't mean we should be taxed to infinity, but heck, that military that protects you and I, well, about 35 to 40 percent of your tax dollar pays for it, about 30 percent pays for your Social Security and Medicare, nothing to do with lining anyone's pockets.
I amend the above paragraph, of course that military budget does line a few pockets at Lockheed and Raytheon and on and on and on, but I digress, if you want change, you have to research and form a complex and detailed analysis of every piece of your tax dollar, not just make a sweeping generalization.
Now if you want to get into local politics, local police forces, red light cameras, parking fines, speeding tickets for less than 10mph over the limit, crazy fees just to own a car, I am in agreement with you there, local police unions negotiate against themselves, inflated salaries, high budgets, well, someone has to pay for it, that working class schmo is driving without a seatbelt, he has a busted light, he went through the red light just as it was changing to red, $750 in fines and fees, that is almost like a tax on the poor.
Because nobody cares about macOS. But distributing malware on iOS is scum‘s wet dream.
You are asking for something that is not possible, Apple is probably the biggest tech company in the world, in the top five of any company in the world.
I never wrote that they don't do environmentally friendly things, there has been plenty of reporting to suggest that they have turned a blind eye to working conditions that are not ideal in those Foxconn buildings.
Their environmental record is not so clear cut: https://www.cnet.com/tech/mobile/ho...the-iphone-makers-sustainability-credentials/
It would be cool if Tim Cook spent three months working in one of the Foxconn factories, building an Iphone, OK that is crazy, one month:https://mashable.com/article/foxconn-apple-iphone-protests-covid-working-conditions
That's your anecdotal experience and that's fine: mine is that it's not been an issue for any Mac or PC users I know.
Is there users that can get malware? Sure, but "riddled with malware" is IMHO an hyperbolic and distorted representation of the reality of many PC or Mac users.