There are several issues at play here but I don’t think determining the remedies would necessarily be hard. They could include things like allow sideloading, alternative app stores, alternative payments systems, alternative browser engines, etc. Allow greater interoperability between Apple and Android devices. Limit pre-installed apps and/or make it possible/easier to uninstall apps. Make it easier to change default settings.
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Apple Sued by U.S. Department of Justice, Says Lawsuit is 'Wrong'
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There are several issues at play here but I don’t think determining the remedies would necessarily be hard. They could include things like allow sideloading, alternative app stores, alternative payments systems, alternative browser engines, etc. Allow greater interoperability between Apple and Android devices. Limit pre-installed apps and/or make it possible/easier to uninstall apps. Make it easier to change default settings.
I don't have an analogy, I just know that to compare a power tool to a supercomputer in your pocket that most people need to live and work in 2024 is a non starter, it is folly to do so.
and if it does happen, you can't take it back. why take the chance.
already happened with epic.
vote with your wallets. android sounds like a good representative for you on what you think a phone should be.
Apples "Eco-system" say it all! You are locked into Apple and its company and cannot mix any other companies products into it or everything breaks. Thanks, Apple.
We agree here. Apple can do better but it would be bad for business. How do you legislate the improvement. The holier than thou strategy is marketing.
Agreed
First of all I wrote, anywhere close to its size. Acknowledging that it is much bigger than some of its rival. I will go further and compare them to Samsung/LG/Lenovo/Dell/HP. Given how great of a marketing strategy this is, I see little evidence out there of anyone else doing the same. I have seen a documentary as to how Samsung and its Korean Chaebol buddies own the economy "Stories from the Clearnroom" , let that be one piece of evidence.
Yeah, but the problem is that Apple will comply maliciously and fight every inch. So, DOJ will have to keep taking Apple to the courts again and again and it will take a long time. The easier way would be break Apple up, but seems like DOJ is not pursuing that option.
I have Shokz and Bose and Jabra headsets, all work great with my iPhone. As do my Logitech/Keychron and Microsoft peripherals. I use a BenQ monitor, Satechi and OWC external enclosures.
On the latest episode of the WAN Show(Linus Tech Tips on YouTube), Linus who explicitly says he is not an Apple hater rants that he cannot updated the firmware of his AirPods on an non Apple device and because of that Apple is saying F-U to all its customers. He has chosen to use one of the ONLY products which does this. He has a choice of thousands of earbuds but daily drives the only one that is built specifically for the Apple ecosystem. He further says that he does not understand how those of us that like Apple way. He further suggest that we are all idiots and that the only a fully open ecosystem is the only possible way.
I watch the WAN show and other LTT content because I want to hear other perspectives. I support the right for those that want to tinker with their computers and have to constantly upgrade video card drivers because their systems are unstable. I don't want to do that and the curation that I trust Apple to do works for me. Today the locked in Apple ecosystem is a way of doing things. Opening it up forces Apple to dedicate resources on things that do not benefit me at that I believe will degrade MY experience. If 50.0001% of Apple users share this viewpoint why can we not keep that experience.
Again, "vote with your wallet" assumes the free market is operating as it should. The DoJ alleges that it's not.
Competition can only be applied to a certain extent. There are business tactics in the past that Apple was able to do, but now at their current size... they need to be checked. I don't understand why so many people are against Apple being investigated.
It's not as if their lifestyle will be uprooted. Apple will have to open up a bit... what's the issue with that? They have done it with the Mac... has anyone been affected by that?
yes and I'm arguing DoJ is in the wrong here.
This law should be based on reason, regardless of size. Something should be considered not right because it's believed to be not right, not because someone is too big, therefore it's not right. As long as there is clear competition, size is irrelevant.
Setting up the law early will mean Apple can figure out the best business model for the customer that's bound within the law. You don't just go changing the law after Apple spent over a decade and billions on building and improving the infrastructure for apps.
That's fine to argue, as long as you realize your advice is based on that assumption. If your assumption is wrong, your advice is completely illogical.
That would be what a per se violation is. As example, price-fixing is illegal regardless. Apple was found guilty of price-fixing in the eBook case although it had a very small share of the market compared to Amazon.
That's correct and exactly the point of the rule of reason: you can even be a monopoly as long as you don't unreasonably restrain trade.
I don't understand it either
I suspect maybe worried about a short term stock stagnation?
Ultimately though, over the long run, these actions will almost certainly result in a "better" Apple emerging
All megacorps can really stagnate once they get in positions of not needing to compete at their potential
So who is forcing you. Go buy, a Pixel, or Samsung, or LG, or Motorola Razr+, or whatever, Apple is not forcing anyone into the Apple ecosystem we are there by choice.
But they are. I would love to use an S24, it’s objectively better than the 15 Pro. However I can’t, because I’m not prepared to give up my AW Ultra, which is objectively better than any other smartwatch.
This should not have to be an either/or choice - there is zero reason , other than anti competitive market position leverage, that there is no Apple Watch app on Android making it possible to use the two together.
So by your logic you should be able to take the engine out of your Toyota and place it into your Ford and have it work perfectly and easily?
Apple cannot and should not be forced to write apps for the competition.
Good thing Samsung is fully compatible.... oh wait.
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No. Your analogy is not thought through and doesn’t work.
I should be (and am) able to use my Sony headphones regardless of what OS my phone uses. The app and functionality is the same.
There is no reason it should be any different with an Apple smartwatch, it should not be defining which smartphone I have to use.
This process will take a while but the breakup of Apple would be a last resort, and an unlikely outcome IMO. Back in 2000, a U.S. district court had ordered the breakup of Microsoft but it was later reversed on appeal.