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It's not just Google and Samsung, even individual banks are unable to offer their apps on iPhone.

I asked my bank, which already has the app for Android if they have any plans to release their app on iPhones, they said they cannot because of the stuff of "technical nature relating to the iPhone".

You immediately can tell what it is.
Then you need to find a new bank... all of the banks in my country offer both iOS and Android apps, even for Huawei phones.
 
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Are you able to use Apple Pay on competitor phones?
Apple COULD use apple pay on other devices if Apple chose to. However, Apple chooses not to. However, on iOS, it's not up to other mobile payment providers if they WANT to offer payments on iOS. They simply can't use that feature. Apple physically stops them from being on the platform because money.
 
I'm surprised it took this long for another attorney to give it a shot at making big bucks in one go.

Wonder when Ford users will sue GM that they cannot use GM parts or vice versa!!!!!!

I demand Ferrari let me install a Skoda engine!!!!!

I demand Steam Valve let me remove their OS on Steam Deck and install Chrome Flex and Google streaming games!!!111

I will hire lawyers to force companies to ruin their products because it sounds like winning!!!!

Winning for lawyers!!
 
You could say KaiOS is the same as iOS for what it is, but it doesn't have iMessage and iCloud support, it can't run iOS-only games and apps and is generally a different experience.
You’re hunting a bit here aren’t you. Are you now suggesting that an OS must just be a base vanilla OS, and the vendor of the OS must not be able to offer anything else exclusive? Then why have different OS’? Perhaps we should have one single (perhaps government controlled?) OS that can just load all of everything? Outlawing all individual platforms? That doesn’t sound too good…
 
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I'm surprised it took this long for another attorney to give it a shot at making big bucks in one go.

Wonder when Ford users will sue GM that they cannot use GM parts or vice versa!!!!!!
Apple Pay is Apple's name for their payment processor. It's more like suing eBay because they only accept Visa cards or eBay Bux (Apple CC) for payment, and no one else.
 
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You’re hunting a bit here aren’t you. Are you now suggesting that an OS must just be a base vanilla OS, and the vendor of the OS must not be able to offer anything else exclusive? Then why have different OS’? Perhaps we should have one single (perhaps government controlled?) OS that can just load all of everything? Outlawing all individual platforms? That doesn’t sound too good…
What? Where did I say all of that? I was just pointing out that saying iOS and Android are different enough that it doesn't make sense to say "just switch."
By the way, vendors can and are encouraged to offer exclusive things, but they must at least offer the option to use something else. The issue here is that some people don't want Apple Pay.
 
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Exactly! There's already competition in that market. The whole idea behind ApplePay was to make sure that all your transaction information was kept private. I think that might be what upsets some businesses.
You could still use Apple pay. This is the same as Apple locking the camera hardware to themselves.
 
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The only information Apple collects when you use Apple Pay on your Apple device is a query to insure there are sufficient funds or credit.

Google Pay and Samsung Pay take personal and finical information, which they sell to advertisers which is why they don’t charge.

Neither Google nor Samsung will agree to follow Apple’s strict guidelines for privacy and will try to force Apple to lower its standards. Much like Epic is trying to do.
 
Probably the fact that other phones already offer tap-to-pay functionality, so all that Apple would need to do is offer an Apple Pay app for Android or Windows?
Why should they though? You want an iPhone, you buy an iPhone. You want Apple Pay, you use an iPhone. It’s a pretty simple metric which is getting blown out of proportion. I can’t use my Tesco club card savings in Asda - why would I be able too? It’s just a benefit of platform loyalty. It’s not designed as a free for all application. Nor should it be forced into one.
 
They're not calling for Apple Pay to be available on other devices. So Apple Pay can still be an exclusive iOS feature. This isn't like iMessage or FaceTime where you really can only interact with other iOS users (at least while utilizing all of the functionality). Tap-to-pay is very straightforward, it's basically just your phone or watch emulating a tap-to-pay credit card from the perspective of the terminal. So I'm not sure what Apple can offer to make Apple Pay a better "exclusive" feature other than maybe some kind of built in purchase insurance (which basically all CC's already offer - and they're not charging enough for debit card transactions to make it viable for that side). If Google Pay truly is zero-fee, it definitely doesn't look too good for Apple to charge fees on top of the credit card processor fees.
Apple Pay is more anonymous. Apple doesn't sell your purchase data like google does to cover the cost of the overhead for back end servers. All this lawsuit will do if apple looses, is put apple at a financial disadvantage in comparison to google or force apple to take on Google's awful data mining business practices to compete.
 
It’s a pretty simple metric which is getting blown out of proportion
A simple metric which coincidentally doesn't begin to describe all the reasons why people would buy iPhone and still not want to use Apple Pay

I can’t use my Tesco club card savings in Asda - why would I be able too?
Apples and oranges.

I see Apple's exclusion of others as a feature, not a bug. I'd pay extra for that security.
You can choose to not download the hypothetical alternative apps.
 
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Apple Pay is more anonymous. Apple doesn't sell your purchase data like google does to cover the cost of the overhead for back end servers. All this lawsuit will do if apple looses, is put apple at a financial disadvantage in comparison to google or force apple to take on Google's awful data mining business practices to compete.

IMO, this is also a case where Apple should remember that its core business is selling hardware. They develop software when necessary to facilitate hardware sales. Income from software and content should not distract from the core business.

In this scenario, they offer the service for a fraction of a ¢. If they offered it for free, some lawyers would proclaim it anti-competitive. We can't have nice things.
 
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More choice is good, I mean, opening up the wallet won’t affect Apple Pay users. By the end of the day if you will continue to use the service you like the most, expect that you have freedom to choose. What’s so bad about opening up the system?
 
In terms of Apple being a monopoly then I remember it trying to be argued by pystar that Apple had a monopoly on computers running Mac OS.
Was thrown out as was shown that Mac OS is just one of several personal computer offerings on the market and that Mac OS market within the Personal Computer was not a seperate market.

Don’t see how iOS phones within the Mobile Phone market is a seperate market to other mobile phones that are available. There aren’t tasks that can do on iOS phones that cannot do on other phones. Unless you get into very app specific things, which is like saying Apple has a monopoly on FCP X, when there are other apps available that allow you do the same thing as FCP X.

Otherwise where do you draw the line. Are Ford cars seperate to the rest of the car market. Is coca-cola seperate market to the rest of the soft drinks market.
 
This better not lead to banks forcing use to use their own nfc payment options. I like having all my cards in one place.
Here comes Barclays Pay, Citi Pay, Capital One Pay, etc. Some of those may already exist actually and I didn't even realize it.
 
IMO, this is also a case where Apple should remember that its core business is selling hardware. They develop software when necessary to facilitate hardware sales. Income from software and content should not distract from the core business.

In this scenario, they offer the service for a fraction of a ¢. If they offered it for free, some lawyers would proclaim it anti-competitive. We can't have nice things.
But also, the service they offer costs them money to support. The fees are just to cover that cost. Google doesn't charge because they do it to get your purchase history data which is their main business. Google's costs are more than covered by their data mining profits.
 
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