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Hmm... I am confused on where to click to go to Tiger Direct.
:confused:

"The company says that Apple's use of Tiger has changed internet search results, directly impacting its ability to market product to its customers. The company alleges that Apple's use of the name has adversely affected its ranking among the internet's largest search engines, Google and Yahoo, bumping the company from its usual spot in the first three results. "

Are they serious?
 

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jimmyjjames said:
I could not find the word Tiger trademarked by Tigerdirect.
It's owned by Systemax, which someone earlier pointed out is the parent company of Tiger Direct, Inc.
 
crap freakboy said:
Maybe 'Tiger' is too specific a name.
Erm...lets think..'Feline'?..naw, too girlie.
Hey, how about 'PussyCat'? Nope, too childish.
Lets try minus 'Cat'...interesting, a new informal direction in Apple branding.

dictionary.com gives us-- PUSS·Y **Informal. A cat.**

P U S S Y

simple and straight to the point...a cat. I like it.
Now the Goggle test....loading.....ah...oh...dear...ah well back to the drawing board.

HAHAHAHA!! :D nice!
 
What will Apple do?

dotdotdot said:
If Tiger Direct wins than What will Apple have to do?

A universal updater that changes the name from "Tiger" to "Panther -Panh + ig"

All Apple will have to do is reprint their packaging and take out 'Tiger'. No big deal at all, but probably cost them a few million dollars.

Of course, if Mac users get together and boycott TigerDirect, it will cost them much more. I've already taken my business ($10 K last year) away from them.
 
tigerbeat said:
Systemax and Tigerdirect are currnetly laughing about the uproar Mac followers have created. They are joking "ooohhh - they are threatening to hack us and fill our mailboxes...". Like they're not scared...
Are you quoting from an actual source or being hypothetical?
 
Catalogs

lucabrasi said:
I made the mistake of ordering a few items from TigerDirect a couple of years ago for my MythTV box. That's when the catalogs started arriving, sometimes 3 a week! After a dozen or so phone calls, they finally removed my name, but since then I refuse to shop there. So this crap really doesn't surprise me from that co.


Why don't you call them and ask to be put back on their mailing list. If a few million Mac users ask for catalogs, it will really add up. They send several catalogs per month times a few million users times $0.50 per catalog.

Ask for their catalogs and then throw them in the trash.
 
I'll chuckle in print...

edesignuk said:
With all the suing Apple have been doing to others recently, this makes me chuckle :eek: :D

Agreed. Found an email address for Tiger Direct. peter.amato@tigerdirect.com


TO: Peter Amato, Tiger Direct

Peter,

First, I understand some of what Tiger Direct hopes to do regarding Apple Computer; protect a valuable trademark. Go for it. It's your right.

Second, recognize that, from a practical perspective, Tiger Direct is probably skating on very thin legal ice, and, at best may get Apple to back up a little on how close "Tiger" can be identified as an online store that sells products similar to those of Tiger Direct. That's it.

That's about all that will happen. Tiger Direct will not get an injunction against Apple to prohibit the company from selling Tiger (the OS), and it's doubtful you'll recover even legal expenses. In the meantime, Tiger Direct runs the risk of alienating many customers, current and soon-to-be former. You know and I know and all consumers know that there's no "real" confusion between the respective "tigers" of Apple and Tiger Direct.

Third, our company (and companies we represent in our services) has purchased tens of thousands of dollars of products from Tiger Direct each year.

That ends now.

I'm also confident that our action will be repeated by others. Many others.

Finally, what begins now is the steady stream of publicity we can provide to our readers, 40-percent of whom are Windows users. Our unique perspective of Tiger Direct's apparently shady business practices.

You see, that's our right, too, what with the First Amendment, and all. Readers need to be reminded how Tiger Direct works.

tera
--
 
tigerbeat said:
Cause I got a source...

True, Apple has the trademark from 2004, but Tigerdirect fought them back then, and forced a couple of specific exceptions. They are now suing over the fact that Apple has breached those original agreements.

Tigerdirect is not looking for a cash settlement, and they are not going to delay the release of Tiger. All they are looking for is Apple to change further packaging, and the branding on the Apple Store website. The original agreement stated - the word "tiger" when used only in reference to OSX 10.4 Tiger, should never be larger than 1/3 the font size of the "X" in OSX.

You are not correct. The complaint (see the prayer for relief part) specifically asks that Apple not be allowed to use 'Tiger' on their web site at all. The rest of the complaint was equally silly (they objected to the fact that Apple said that Tiger is going to be UNLEASHED).
 
lssmit02 said:
I'm not so sure. Tiger Direct's claim passes the straight face test - They do prominently use the term "tiger" in their trademarks, and they sell computer hardware, which apple does, too. Don't forget, Apple is marketing their hardware now as "comes with Tiger"


Actually, it doesn't pass the straight face test for several reasons:

1. They don't use 'Tiger' alone any more - and probably never have. They use "Tigerdirect" and "TigeronTV" and similar things, but never 'Tiger'. That alone is enough to stop enforcement.

By that logic, if I open a store called 'Joe's Jazzy Musical Instruments', I could stop Joe's Catering from using the name.

2. Their complaint is just plain silly. Look at how they put 'UNLEASHED' in all caps - as if it was so horrendous. It also looks petty.

3. There's no risk of confusion.

4. Apple's Tiger is an operating system which can't be confused with a mail order outfit - and doesn't conflict with the Tiger trademark.

5. A company has a legal obligation to try to minimize disruption to the marketplace. Their stunt of waiting until the day before Tiger is released opens them for all sorts of extortion and tortuous interference claims.

Tiger's going to lose - big time.
 
Ummmm, I'm just curious as to what gives anyone a RIGHT to a top rank in google search results. As others have pointed out, searching "Tiger" yields a higher rank than Apple and if you search for "Tiger Computer" you will notice a rank of... uh... 1. OTOH, I guess that's kind of a lame rank so nevermind, continue the litigation...
 
All this lawsuit stuff reminds me of a joke...

The pope dies and goes to heaven. St. Peter is showing him around and they arrive at the palace where all the people in heaven live.

St. Peter shows the pope to his room which is a very cozy nook right across the hall from an enormous suite.

"I see you've put me right next to God," the pope says with tears of joy in his eyes.

"Well, actually he's a lawyer," replies Peter embarrassed.

"What!" cries the pope, "You could fit my room in his foyer! Why I spent my life in the service of the lord!"

"Yes," St. Peter sighs, "I'm sorry about that but you see we have so many popes but we only have the one lawyer."
 
jragosta said:
Actually, it doesn't pass the straight face test for several reasons:

1. They don't use 'Tiger' alone any more - and probably never have. They use "Tigerdirect" and "TigeronTV" and similar things, but never 'Tiger'. That alone is enough to stop enforcement.

Actually, they (Systemax, Inc, the parent of Tiger Direct, Inc.) have a federal registration for TIGER. That's enough to get an injunction under federal law.

By that logic, if I open a store called 'Joe's Jazzy Musical Instruments', I could stop Joe's Catering from using the name.
Actually, it's much more involved in that. You'd have to have used the mark first. In addtion, the court would have to consider factors such as how well known your mark was, how similar the goods and services were, whether the goods/services were sold in the same/similar channels of trade, were there any instances of actual confusion of consumers, whether Joe's Catering had acted in bad faith, and whether it was likely you were going to go into the catering business. It's not a mathematical determination, and just one or two factors can be outcome determinative. For example if they opened up next door in the same strip mall, using the same style font in their sign, that likely would have you peeved.

2. Their complaint is just plain silly. Look at how they put 'UNLEASHED' in all caps - as if it was so horrendous. It also looks petty.
Common practice by trademark lawyers to capitalize trademarks. That's what the USPTO does.

3. There's no risk of confusion.
Hard to handicap, in my opinion. I agree with you, but, given that Apple was aware of tigerdirect.com, and chose the mark anyway, could sway the judge. But Apple has good counsel, I believe, and should be able to argue that consumers of each party's respective products are savvy enough to know the difference.

4. Apple's Tiger is an operating system which can't be confused with a mail order outfit - and doesn't conflict with the Tiger trademark.
You sound like Apple's lawyer :) . Actually, that's a bit of a mischaracterization. They're an online computer sales company that sells directly to retail consumers. So is Apple. They sell software, including operating systems. So does apple. Now, Apple is also much more than that, but you can be sure that's how tigerdirect will argue it.
5. A company has a legal obligation to try to minimize disruption to the marketplace. Their stunt of waiting until the day before Tiger is released opens them for all sorts of extortion and tortuous interference claims.

They didn't. They've been trying to negotiate with Apple for a while (according to their filings, at least), and they filed a challenge to the Apple TIGER registration in December, 2004.

Tiger's going to lose - big time.
Assuming you mean Tiger Direct, we all hope you're right. My copy of Tiger is on order from Amazon as we speak.
 
In response to this, I decided to write a customer support letter to Tiger Direct. Hopefully if enough customers deny them their purchases, they may realize the errors.

I was just about to purchase one of your great labtops. I was about to telephone your headquarters to place my order of the laptop along with 6 Samsung 21.3" DVI monitors for my office. However, I read on an internet website that your company decided to sue Apple Computer for trademark infringement. I, a firm holder in AAPL stock, was appaled at your antics to suck some cash from a very prominent company. I find your abusive antics a disgrace to the men and women who died to provide you a country that allows for trademarks. I am truely disguested and I will now place my orders at Dell.com and various other websites that sell your products.

I hope you reconsider your company profile before you try to sell to serious customers. I am sorry but I just cannot conduct my businuss with companies that spit on the American Flag.

Good Day,

Rob
 
Not a leg to stand on....

Does anyone have any idea as to how many products are called Tiger? I can think of several dozen off the top of my head. TD is screwed and I hope Apple counter sues.
Doing a quick and dirty search on their site I see they sell iPods. Hope Apple gives them a nice big F-you tomorrow by cutting off their supply. Oops I'm sorry but it looks like your order is backorded until 2038. Thanks bye bye. ***holes.
 
Eric5h5 said:
I don't know...I don't think Tiger Direct can win this. There are other cases of same or very similar names that co-exist just fine. What it comes down to is consumer confusion...two similar products named the same thing is obviously a problem, but here we have a computer mail-order company vs. an operating system. You'd have to be really astoundingly dumb to confuse the two, so I'd guess this case isn't going anywhere. Is IS amusing that it's Apple being sued in this case though.

--Eric

Ummm no. Let me give you a couple of examples. Tiger is a company that use to, don't know if they still do or not, make cheap handhelds. Tyan makes a line of motherboards called tiger. How about Wing Commander 3: Heart of the Tiger? No worse then OS 10.4 Tiger. Those are the only computer related items I can think of. I know of several dozen other examples from outside the industry and prob could think of a few more that predated tigerdirect. Have no fear. This is going to get bounced out of court so fast and so high it’ll impress even Tigger the Tiger.
 
jragosta said:
Why don't you call them and ask to be put back on their mailing list. If a few million Mac users ask for catalogs, it will really add up. They send several catalogs per month times a few million users times $0.50 per catalog.

Ask for their catalogs and then throw them in the trash.

Go right ahead :) I have enough recycling to deal with already.
 
I think Apple has been way too sue-happy over the past year, however, this suit from Tiger Direct is just silly.

First of all, how can you trademark the word "Tiger?" That's as stupid as Microsoft trying to trademark the word "Windows." The fact that anyone can actually do that in first place points out the real source of these problems: the US Trademark & Patent Office. In their zeal to squeeze as much money as they can out of people, they are allowing companies to claim sole ownership of things that should never be "owned" by any single entity.

It's all just stupid.
 
What an utter load of crap. Soon they'll be suing tigers for using their name. What an utter load of crap. Oh, I'm sorry, I already said that. Well, I guess I REALLY meant that it was an UTTER load of CRAP.
 
This is getting comical...

I have purchased probably a dozen times in the past quarter for my company from tiger direct. That said, I think they are slipping and getting desperate. If you are looking for a good deal try newegg.com, better prices and no rebates to mess with.. In the end all that will happen is that tiger directs image is cheapened. Self inflicted harm? :cool: Charma?
 
Tiger Direct Wil Experience The Wrath Of Jobs

Zaty said:
Why has Tiger Inc. waited until the day before the launch? Probably just to get attention. I only hope they don't find a senile Judge stopping Apple from launching Tiger.
I will NEVER buy from Tiger Direct again. I am sure their timing of the lawsuit is directly related to an attempt to steal some of Apple's thunder for their own benefit. Instead Tiger Direct will make themselves the pariah of the personal computing industry. How dare they try to crash and spoil our party. See you all in Palo Alto. :p
 
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