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firewood

macrumors G3
Jul 29, 2003
8,108
1,345
Silicon Valley
Britto will get some free publicity for his commercial business from the suit. To bad Apple can't counter-sue to get back their legal costs due to this PR stunt.

Picasso's estate is too wealthy and classy to need to bother suing both Britto and C&K for even more PR.
 

Iconoclysm

macrumors 68040
May 13, 2010
3,141
2,569
Washington, DC
Let me save you all time from reading the forum comments:

Because it's a lawsuit against Apple, nobody here will see the likeness. Down with you Britto!

Image

Pretty sure there is no such thing as an Apple forum, just forums that focus on Apple topics loaded with haters whose sole purpose is to create strawman posts like yours.
 

cinder

macrumors regular
Jun 26, 2004
177
155
Seattle
This is not trade dress.
You cannot patent or trademark a 'style' of design.
If Apple or the artists explicitly recreated his artwork, then yes, that falls under copyright. However, this guy cannot even remotely claim that the *style* of his work is wholly original in and of itself, let alone sue someone who makes something that is similar in style.

I don't believe there is legal precedent for this.
 

iSee

macrumors 68040
Oct 25, 2004
3,539
272
Britto will never win this. The images Apple used are not copied, but used in the style of Britto, which is obviously influenced by Picasso.

I don't even think Britto's style was used, necessarily.

Both are in a stained-glass style, with the bold black lines and bright colors. And both use patterns where stained glass would use solid colors. But that doesn't seem like such an unusual or unique leap to me and that's pretty much it. Meanwhile, the lines in Craig and Karl pieces flow a lot more and the textures are usually more granular, while Britto's are more discordant (the lines and the texture choices distinctly clash a little).

It will be interesting to see what comes of this.
 

cmChimera

macrumors 601
Feb 12, 2010
4,273
3,762
This is not trade dress.
You cannot patent or trademark a 'style' of design.
If Apple or the artists explicitly recreated his artwork, then yes, that falls under copyright. .
Trade dress and copyright are not the same thing.

Trademark, Patents, and copyrights are all vastly different from each other.
 

jermy4

macrumors 6502a
Jun 27, 2010
564
406
If memory serves, you cannot copyright an art style. If they used his actual art, thats an issue. If it's influenced by his art, it's not something he can go after them for.

That's what I was thinking too, it's not like it's a copy or anything.
 

BC2009

macrumors 68020
Jul 1, 2009
2,237
1,393
I own many Britto pieces. Britto is hugely popular with Disney. I thought the Apple images were Britto. IMHO he has a case and will get a settlement through his ties with Disney.

His style, again, to me, is very distinctive and popular. I don't see how any one should be allowed to copy that at such a high level such as Apple. Street venues, graffiti artist, mom & pops, then ok. But a company like Apple? No, you gotta pay.

To those that say you can't defend a style, rounded corners??? It happens.

But what if this Picasso?

girl-before-a-mirror.jpg


Compare it to these....

brittocomparisonimages.jpg


I think it is fair to say that Picasso is the one that made this style popular.
 

Rogifan

macrumors Penryn
Nov 14, 2011
24,144
31,199
I own many Britto pieces. Britto is hugely popular with Disney. I thought the Apple images were Britto. IMHO he has a case and will get a settlement through his ties with Disney.

His style, again, to me, is very distinctive and popular. I don't see how any one should be allowed to copy that at such a high level such as Apple. Street venues, graffiti artist, mom & pops, then ok. But a company like Apple? No, you gotta pay.

To those that say you can't defend a style, rounded corners??? It happens.

Apple feature someone else's artwork in an ad campaign. How is that copying anything?
 

Alumeenium

macrumors regular
May 15, 2013
200
68
Britto's work is clearly superior to the Craig & Karl hack jobs

while it shares some reference to cubism it's removed enough to be it's own style, and I know which of the two I'd prefer to have on my wall.

for those of you who see the same thing when looking at the two works

the level of depth in Britto's work makes it much more interesting than the flat world presented by C&K

depth is one of the hardest and most forgotten elements expressed in 2D art
 

LordVic

Cancelled
Sep 7, 2011
5,938
12,458
Britto's work is clearly superior to the Craig & Karl hack jobs

while it shares some reference to cubism it's removed enough to be it's own style, and I know which of the two I'd prefer to have on my wall.

for those of you who see the same thing when looking at the two works

the level of depth in Britto's work makes it much more interesting than the flat world presented by C&K

depth is one of the hardest and most forgotten elements expressed in 2D art

This isn't about what you'd prefer though. I agree, Britto's are nicer.

This is about Britto sueing Apple over using a similar stylized artstyle in one of their marketing campaigns from a different artist / company.

this isn't about whose better. Britto is claiming they have some form of trade dress / copywrite to the style.
 

gnipgnop

macrumors 68020
Feb 18, 2009
2,177
2,893
Trade dress and copyright are not the same thing.

Trademark, Patents, and copyrights are all vastly different from each other.

Trade dress usually involves a claim that consumers would be confused between competing products in the market. Not sure how that would apply to Apple's ad campaign or Craig & Karl's illustration work.
 

reden

macrumors 6502a
Aug 30, 2006
716
824
Google is going to sue everyone using material design on their websites now.
 

LordVic

Cancelled
Sep 7, 2011
5,938
12,458
I actually cannot stand Britto and his obsession with commercializing his art to the very last drop.

IMHO,

if all you're trying to do is "commercialize art" you're not an artist, you're a graphic designer.

Art to me, at least to me, usually has to contain something more personal. A message, a feeling a reason. Simply doing it to make money isn't "art"
 

bloggerblog

macrumors regular
Jun 27, 2007
103
21
Stop all paintbrushes and those pesky Illustrator crosshairs!!

If you drew strong, vibrant colors with bold black outlines, and uplifting bright images, you maybe at risk of owing Britto lots and lots of money!!

Why, you may ask?

Because no one could've ever conceived such insight, except for Mr. Britto! We all must see his squiggles and no one else's. And also, because fnck you that's why!
 

diego

macrumors regular
Dec 21, 2003
182
197
Canada & Mexico
IMHO,

if all you're trying to do is "commercialize art" you're not an artist, you're a graphic designer.

Art to me, at least to me, usually has to contain something more personal. A message, a feeling a reason. Simply doing it to make money isn't "art"

Exactly, that's exactly what I'm talking about. The thing is that he tries to incorporate feelings and deep messages/symbolism but at the same time has his patterns plastered on Disney figurines and keychains. He's just a cheap, common business owner disguised as an artist.
 

Nungster

macrumors regular
Oct 15, 2011
189
11
"artwork that allegedly mimics the design style that Britto is famous for."

Britto who?

"artwork that allegedly mimics the design style that Picasso was famous for."

Fixed.

Exactly what I thought when I saw Britto's work. All cubists shall be sued by Picasso's heirs!
 

JohnApples

macrumors 68000
Mar 7, 2014
1,634
2,776
As an artist, I can say this is extremely laughable and will go nowhere. You cannot claim an art style, or prevent others from drawing inspiration from you. In fact, artists are encouraged to use others' styles as inspiration, and use that to create art of their own. Nothing else to see here.

Oh, and I do think it's also ridiculous that Apple can sue another company for "rounded corners" etc. But that's a whole 'nother topic.
 
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