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Trade dress and copyright are not the same thing.

Trademark, Patents, and copyrights are all vastly different from each other.

Absolutely, there can be a huge difference, and Trade Dress is a sub-category of trademark, not copyright. It has to do with product identification; the cover design of the For Dummies books is a classic example, the distinctive Louis Vuitton pattern is another. Just google "trade dress" and skim through the various definitions.

At least on the surface, this doesn't come close to being trade dress (and in my business, I do apply both trademark and trade dress, so I'm not totally unfamiliar with the distinctions). How could this confuse a consumer into buying the wrong computer, or even hiring the wrong artist? The answer to the question, "Who did the Apple ads, I want to hire him?" is not, "Britto." Might there be some subtleties that we're missing? Of course. The law often turns on the small details.

If it's appropriate to sue the artists, it's completely appropriate to sue the artists' customer. If in fact there is a trade dress violation, Apple has an obligation to be aware of it - it's Apple that made the work public. That's why publishers are sued when writers plagiarize, "He didn't tell me he plagiarized" is not a valid defense.

An artist most definitely has a style, and that style is undoubtedly derivative of the artists who came before. A key factor in making a career in the arts is finding a way to distinguish ones self from every other person who studied at the same schools, went to the same museums, and listened to the same performances.

While imitation is supposed to be the sincerest form of flattery, I can see someone like Britto being ticked off if another artist got paid big bucks for work so similar in style to his own. To adapt a joke that's gone around in creative circles for a long time...

The three stages of a career: "Who's Britto?" "Get me Britto." "Get me a young Britto."
 
You can protect it with trade dress though, which is what the article is actually about.

Indeed, but that's extremely weak. If he were to prevail with something like that then huge swathes of copying would be illegal, just because it has a similar look. Copyright and fair use trumps it easily. Trade dress is an issue where competitors try to look like each other and dilute "visual" trademarks. Clearly Apple is not diluting the guy's trademark.
 
The Bottom Line

He doesn't have a case. Courts have ruled, you can only copyright a specific work, not a style or technique.
 
If memory serves, you cannot copyright an art style. If they used his actual art, thats an issue. If it's influenced by his art, it's not something he can go after them for.

I have researched the issue and the original artist is probably wasting his time unless the other artist reproduces the artwork identically.

The case I was researching had to do with a advertising poster that "was influenced" by another famous copyrighted photo. Based on research, the case was a loser and the person using the image was not even sued.

Of course, in the law, you can never say never, but the artist will probably get zero, except for the legal bills for the lawyers that took the case..
 
Not even sure why Apple is in this suit. Shouldn't he be suing Craig & Karl for licensing to Apple something that they (may not) own to begin with?
 
I wouldn't confuse them.

From the examples shown, Craig and Karl's art uses black lines of uniform thickness, and Britto's designs are more "loose".

/art school dropout
 
Prior art. Britto ripped off a church somewhere...
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If memory serves, you cannot copyright an art style. If they used his actual art, thats an issue. If it's influenced by his art, it's not something he can go after them for.

Absolutely this. Any art student knows that all art is derivative in some shape or form. Everything is always building upon and expanding what has come before. Art is cyclical, so even art that rejects the current trends has been done in some form previously. I had to take 5 art history classes in addition to numerous painting, drawing, ceramics and other fine arts courses to get my BFA design degree and I can assure you that I've seen plenty of work that mimics his style. And by mimic I mean "he wasn't even alive when it was made." Anyone can copy a style. Any art that you make is yours. The only area this doesn't apply, AFAIK, is in logo trademarks. But even then you can put logos in your work, I just don't think you can use them commercially? Otherwise things become an extremely slippery slope where nobody can make new art. Sounds like a publicity stunt to me.

Here is a painting that I made a few years ago which is a similar style. I made this before I had even heard of this guy. It's not as good as his work but come at me Britto! I draw inspiration from Kandinsky, Pollock, Calder, Matisse, Gorky, Kline, and more.

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Absolutely, there can be a huge difference, and Trade Dress is a sub-category of trademark, not copyright. It has to do with product identification; the cover design of the For Dummies books is a classic example, the distinctive Louis Vuitton pattern is another. Just google "trade dress" and skim through the various definitions.
I think you're agreeing with me, but at the same time you seem to be correcting me, or maybe the thread. I'm well aware what trademark and trade dress are though.

At least on the surface, this doesn't come close to being trade dress (and in my business, I do apply both trademark and trade dress, so I'm not totally unfamiliar with the distinctions). How could this confuse a consumer into buying the wrong computer, or even hiring the wrong artist? The answer to the question, "Who did the Apple ads, I want to hire him?" is not, "Britto." Might there be some subtleties that we're missing? Of course. The law often turns on the small details.
The question wouldn't be if it confused people into buying the wrong computer, but if the confusion caused Apple, and the alleged infringing artists to profit on the confusion.


If it's appropriate to sue the artists, it's completely appropriate to sue the artists' customer. If in fact there is a trade dress violation, Apple has an obligation to be aware of it - it's Apple that made the work public. That's why publishers are sued when writers plagiarize, "He didn't tell me he plagiarized" is not a valid defense.

An artist most definitely has a style, and that style is undoubtedly derivative of the artists who came before. A key factor in making a career in the arts is finding a way to distinguish ones self from every other person who studied at the same schools, went to the same museums, and listened to the same performances.

While imitation is supposed to be the sincerest form of flattery, I can see someone like Britto being ticked off if another artist got paid big bucks for work so similar in style to his own. To adapt a joke that's gone around in creative circles for a long time...

The three stages of a career: "Who's Britto?" "Get me Britto." "Get me a young Britto."
Right. Apple is in the lawsuit because they have to be. I'm not sure if Britto will win, but I really don't see any issue with the lawsuit on its face. If they have a strong case, good for them. If not, Apple's lawyer's will likely have an easy time defending Apple.
 
Good artists borrow, great artists *steal*.

Which was stated by this chap, who was quoted by a certain Mr. Jobs.

And also made amongst others this image, which is in no way similar to the plaintiff's.
 

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If a court were to find the artwork produced by Craig & Karl to infringe on a copyright or trade dress owned by the original artist, Apple could be found liable for reproducing the impugned works.

Accordingly, it makes sense to sue all parties allegedly involved in the infringement to increase the chances of recovery. Given the financial stature of Apple, recovery is more likely in a win. Finally, there is also the possibility of a settlement if Apple believes there is a chance a court would find liability.


You are probably one of the bad guys if you know this much about lawsuits.
 
Someone sounds a little jelly. :rolleyes:

I predict this won't go very far. It's frivolous for him to sue Apple and another artist for having a similar style. There is no law protecting style but his actual copy written work.

I'm actually surprised he found an attorney willing to represent him. Well.... I really shouldn't be surprised considering how many crooked ones are out there looking for a big payday. My guess, this is a case of a guy looking for an easy settlement. The worst part is that they'll get some sort of settlement just to make this go away.

I sure hope the judge in this case throws this case out before it gets uglier than it needs to be.
 
Britto's looking for some quick settlement money. It'll just come down to which is cheaper: paying lawyers in court to win the case or paying Britto to settle.

Maybe Britto is hoping losing this lawsuit bankrupts him, so he can chop off his ear, commit suicide and then have his art worth something after he's dead?
 
Funny most comments here.

Apple sues samsung for imitating/copying its style-> How dare samsung, copycat ***** sue them for every penny, kill them.

Artists sues apple for imitating/copying his style-> Idiot, you cant copy style .
 
Wait...

So if Apple bought C&K's artwork and got sued by Britto... Then people who bought Samsung can be sued directly by Apple?

If anything Britto should sue C&K and get a portion of what C&K made from Apple. Even if Britto has a point in the artistic aspects, it's stupid to sue the customer of the entity that ripped you off.

I wish Britto lose big because of his clear greediness.
 
Money Grab

I worked at the Guggenheim right after graduating from high school. This fool's artwork is "inspired" by many artists, from various schools: Picasso, Mondrian, Warhol, Lichtenstein, hell too many to name.

IMO, a money grab since Apple is involved.
 
But what if this Picasso?
I think it is fair to say that Picasso is the one that made this style popular.

Well, Picasso do not live in the US.

By the way, it is basically the same thing that just happened between Disney and Dead Mou5. He has been using his mask for 15 years already and it was too late for Disney to do something about it.

In the case of Britto, he has the right to complain because the other copy cat has even his colors, textures and shapes. Is like remixing a Depeche Mode song or U2 basically. If you take "where the street has no names" and change the lyrics here an there but uses the same instruments, sounds, structure... you will get suit.
 
Completely ludicrous, the case deserves to be laughed out of court.

But Apple patented rectangular devices having rounded corners so I don't have a huge amount of sympathy for Apple either.
 
Aside from not being able to copyright a style, there's probably prior art done before Britto that looks very similar as well.

Apple sues samsung for imitating/copying its style-> How dare samsung, copycat ***** sue them for every penny, kill them.

Artists sues apple for imitating/copying his style-> Idiot, you cant copy style .

So I guess you don't understand the difference between art and product design?

the other copy cat has even his colors, textures and shapes

You can copyright colors? Or shapes? Like...(looks at the examples)...circles?
 
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