Apple Sued Over Not Letting Customers Disable Two-Factor Authentication After Two Weeks

[leebroath]

I don't want extra security...I want the old fashioned log in once without 2 step!

This should be an option like with other online companies, it shouldn't be forced upon the user

 

[Shanghaichica]

As I stated before. You signed up with your specific device and therefore it is trusted. You’ll receive the code on every trusted device. So in case someone knows your Apple ID credentials, your system password and is in possession of your trusted device, 2 factor authentication is not gonna protect you. But in that case something else seriously went south. If you try to login to iCloud.com on a public computer via browser you will need one of your trusted devices to receive the code.

I have it set up and find it useful as I have lots of other Apple devices to get the code on but I think that people should have the option to turn it off if they want.

 

[Heineken]

I have it set up and find it useful as I have lots of other Apple devices to get the code on but I think that people should have the option to turn it off if they want.

And 5 minutes later Apple is getting sued because somebody hacked their account.

 

[flygbuss]

I have it set up and find it useful as I have lots of other Apple devices to get the code on but I think that people should have the option to turn it off if they want.

I didn’t have it until I decided to enable it. And turned it off for my grandparents because they didn’t like it but that was within days. If you have it, I think the very same moment you only have one of your trusted devices with you, you’ll be glad that you get the codes. Happend to me several times..
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And 5 minutes later Apple is getting sued because somebody hacked their account.

Or because someone can’t login because they left the second device at home.

2 factor authentication doesn’t necessarily mean two devices. It’s just an additional second step to authenticate yourself on at least one trusted device.

 

[Heineken]

I didn’t have it until I decided to enable it. And turned it off for my grandparents because they didn’t like it but that was within days. If you have it, I think the very same moment you only have one of your trusted devices with you, you’ll be glad that you get the codes. Happend to me several times..
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Or because someone can’t login because they left the second device at home.

2 factor authentication doesn’t necessarily mean two devices. It’s just an additional second step to authenticate yourself on at least one trusted device.

If you don't have a second trusted device you get sms with code to your phone number.

 

[flygbuss]

Also if you wanna trust a new device then you’ll need one of your already trusted macs or iPhones to get the code. So as soon as someone tries to login with your iCloud credentials you’ll get notified. I think it’s a pretty fair and easy extra layer of security, quite easy to handle.

 

[maverick28]

And 5 minutes later Apple is getting sued because somebody hacked their account.

We own devices we paid our money for. If we want to compromise it, it's our responsibility and only our. If we want to sue Apple it's our choice. Why would I carry about Apple's - a multibillional corporation - well-being? I care about my own, and I'm not a simpleton not to decide for myself how I use the devices manufactured by them using financial resources accumulated through collecting our fees. I pay you my money - fall to your knees.
#shills

 

[Heineken]

We own devices we paid our money for. If we want to compromise it, it's our responsibility and only our. If we want to sue Apple it's our choice. Why would I carry about Apple's - a multibillional corporation - well-being? I care about my own, and I'm not a simpleton not to decide for myself how I use the devices manufactured by them using financial resources accumulated through collecting our fees. I pay you my money - fall to your knees.
#shills

You had 14 days to turn it off, genius. Take some responsibility in your life for your own actions.

 

[maverick28]

You had 14 days to turn it off, genius. Take some responsibility in your life for your own actions.

Such condescending attitude doesn't do you any credit. I'm well aware of my intelligence and my life choices without some random dude on Internet assessing it.

1. If you read my earlier comment, "genius", you'd at least derive from it that I was not given such option hence I'm hanging up with their support for over a month.
2. Why 14 days at all? Why not month? Year? Why the time frame at all?
3. Why can't I turn it off 2FA if I want?

 

[flygbuss]

We own devices we paid our money for. If we want to compromise it, it's our responsibility and only our. If we want to sue Apple it's our choice. Why would I carry about Apple's - a multibillional corporation - well-being? I care about my own, and I'm not a simpleton not to decide for myself how I use the devices manufactured by them using financial resources accumulated through collecting our fees. I pay you my money - fall to your knees.
#shills

And I want a BMW with an ordinary car key and ignition lock. Because that’s how it’s used to be.. well what you gonna do. Oh yeah I could sue them..

 

[frifra]

Those “experts” suing Apple should team up with the ones suing Apple about the iPhone charger.

I am actually waiting for someone to file a class action against Apple for not making 2FA mandatory from the start at the same time as this is a security risk.

I assume the interns at Apple legal are handling this one.

 

[maverick28]

And I want a BMW with an ordinary car key and ignition lock. Because that’s how it’s used to be.. well what you gonna do. Oh yeah I could sue them..

"Wonderful" analogy. I'm beaten to dust.

Suppose, my ardent friend, that you cannot get into your car by simply using your key and it's up to BMW how do you get in. In your own car. Suppose, you're hurrying to an important meeting and - surprise - you can't unlock the door with your key. Or, better, you insert your key in the ignition lock and the engine won't start up because you're required authentication. Is that good for you? The answer to this question will be engraved on my wall.

 

[justperry]

I really hope to have my migration to Linux finished when Apple finally enforces this (and more things such as Microsoft-like forced updates) to everybody. I’ve migrated about 50% of my workflow, but they are pushing harder and harder in limiting our degree of control in our machines, so I really need to accelerate.

And no, nobody can steal me even if they get into my devices, and no, I’m not happy with the new Apple atittude, and yes, I drive better and safer than selfdumbo cars.

These years I look at the Blade Runner movie like if it’s not sci-fi anymore: that guy inventing his own droids at home, trying to live protected from the globally controlled everything just turns out to be a probable (sad but probable) future.

"Linux migration" = making it harder than what you have now.

Spare your time, Linux is still very much geeky, too much trouble.

 

[flygbuss]

"Wonderful" analogy. I'm beaten to dust.

Suppose, my ardent friend, that you cannot get into your car by simply using your key and it's up to BMW how do you get in. In your own car. Suppose, you're hurrying to an important meeting and - surprise - you can't unlock the door with your key. Or, better, you insert your key in the ignition lock and the engine won't start up because you're required authentication. Is that good for you? The answer to this question will be engraved on my wall.

Simple as that: it’s up to BMW how the key and the lock look like, not my choice. No matter how much I pay them. They will not sell me a car without their approved security system, even I personally don’t care about security.

Also never wasn’t able not to login to one of my apple devices nor did I miss a meeting because of 2 factor authentication. You make it look like a book of seven seals.

 

[maverick28]

Yeah, no problem at all. Fuss over nothing.

...and Apple support document on the issue is found useless by 80% of readers

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Simple as that: it’s up to BMW how the key and the lock look like, not my choice. No matter how much I pay them. They will not sell me a car without their approved security system, even I personally don’t care about security.

Nice try, but that was not my point which you purposely missed. Which is why it looks to you

like a book of seven seals.

You have the key and the lock of the car you chose to buy, you cannot drive it. That's what matters.

 

[flygbuss]

Yeah, no problem at all. Fuss over nothing.
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Nice try, but that was not my point which you purposely missed. Which is why it looks to you


You have the key and the lock of the car you chose to buy, you cannot drive it. That's what matters.

No, you try to disable it instead of using it. That’s my point.

 

[maverick28]

No, you try to disable it instead of using it. That’s my point.

Disabled what?

 

[flygbuss]

The lock, or two factor authentication

 

[justperry]

Can it be that it depends on the country to be able to switch 2FA off, I have an (English) Apple ID but my Origin is in Europe.
On my page I am unable to switch it off (Not that I want to), and in my native language Apple says this.

(Translation: Apple ID Turn 2 Factor ID Off)

 

[maverick28]

The lock, or two factor authentication

I told above that's impossible as I didn't have a link to disable from minute 1 nor do I have it now. Once you upgrade to one of those newer OS'es you can't pull back. The article mentions 14 days which is unacceptable. Only "infinity days" is. These restrictions are the cause of the problem. I don't need this security. And, btw, security has nothing to do with "progress".

 

[Heineken]

Can I turn off two-factor authentication after I’ve turned it on?
If you already use two-factor authentication, you can no longer turn it off. Certain features in the latest versions of iOS and macOS require this extra level of security, which is designed to protect your information. If you recently updated your account, you can unenroll for two weeks. Just open your enrollment confirmation email and click the link to return to your previous security settings. Keep in mind, this makes your account less secure and means that you can't use features that require higher security.

Source: https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT204915

 

[BvizioN]

I swear the good people are getting dumper and dumber by day! There is just no much hope in humanity, but so far this kind of “epidemics” seem to be spread in US.

 

[Zanton68]

I didn’t have it until I decided to enable it. And turned it off for my grandparents because they didn’t like it but that was within days. If you have it, I think the very same moment you only have one of your trusted devices with you, you’ll be glad that you get the codes. Happend to me several times..
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Or because someone can’t login because they left the second device at home.

2 factor authentication doesn’t necessarily mean two devices. It’s just an additional second step to authenticate yourself on at least one trusted device.

What happens if the iPhone is lost? I used to login to a computer to use Find iPhone, but I can’t do that any more because if that computer isn’t “trusted” I can’t get the verification code. I can’t list every device I might use as Trusted. At work I don’t have my phone with me so can’t get on iCloud anywhere because I can’t get a verification code. Any thoughts on how I can get round this should be appreciated

 

[0947347]

I feel bad, some people lost an entire 30 seconds of their life entering in a code while setting up their phone. 30 seconds they’ll never get back.

Can I sue this man for wasting a couple minutes of my “personal time” reading this article and responding?

I am a slow reader so I want to sue you over 30 seconds of my life wasted, reading your opinion, which I agree with. The lawsuit is because the time I have read your post and send you this answer heavily inconvenienced me and I may be traumatized for life

And while at it I want to sue Apple for Music and Photo icons being too similar and I always mix them up. That inconveniences me on daily basis as I put them next to each other in the dock and it cause a serious confusion.

 

[flygbuss]

I told above that's impossible as I didn't have a link to disable from minute 1 nor do I have it now. Once you upgrade to one of those newer OS'es you can't pull back. The article mentions 14 days which is unacceptable. Only "infinity days" is. These restrictions are the cause of the problem. I don't need this security. And, btw, security has nothing to do with "progress".

And there you have it. The lock works! You just don’t wanna use it. No one is locking you out, you simply wanna disable the very lock. You missed the two weeks period to do so.
Now you have a working lock you just don’t like because it includes additional security you may not need.
But saying it wouldn’t work or it would keep you away from using your devices is simply not true.
I don’t know how online banking works in the states but don’t you have TANs as well? It’s not harder then that. Type in the digits and you’re good to go..