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Apple Sued Over Potential Hearing Loss

Timepass said:
You all are just complaining because it is apple getting sued. I mean come on if it was M$ getting sued you would be cheering......

I cannt do it. This guy is an idoit and it is his own stupid fault for playing it 2 loud.
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If they were being sued for this, I would only cheer when the suit got thrown out. This guy is a ****ing nimrod.

So close, but no cigar. Thread merge anyone?
 
Honestly, this is pathetic. I understand how the Apple iPod can (and could) cause hearing loss, but Apple cannot monitor the volume the user listens too it at.

I dont believe anyone should be able to sue a company for something the user did wrong, even if i could make a huge financial gain by listening too my iPod too loud, then suing Apple, its not something anyone in their right mind would do.

Users fault, case should be withdrawn.

*End Rant*

Honestly, this is pathetic. I understand how the Apple iPod can (and could) cause hearing loss, but Apple cannot monitor the volume the user listens too it at.

I dont believe anyone should be able to sue a company for something the user did wrong, even if i could make a huge financial gain by listening too my iPod too loud, then suing Apple, its not something anyone in their right mind would do.

Users fault, case should be withdrawn.

*End Rant*
 
Abstract said:
Maybe I should sue car companies because of the potential of getting into a car accident.
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Let's not forget to include Safari and search engines since they provide the fast lane to countless websites showcasing pornographic images.
 
Driving too fast can cause much more then hearing loss, yet I've never heard of someone suing a car company because his car was too fast. Why? because it would be stupid, as is the case with the iPod. There are countless devices that can cause countless damages if used inproperly. Ice pick comes to mind :eek:
 
Timepass said:
You all are just complaining because it is apple getting sued.
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Well maybe, but it's pretty stupid. If people sued Sony for the same type of thing, I'm sure we'd think that was just as stupid. This is just someone trying to cash in. Apple should sue their lawyer for taking the case since the warning label they already put on the iPods is there just for this type of stupidity.
 
Americans are out of control with these damn frivolous lawsuits. We need reform in this area big time.

My nephews stroller has a sticker that says, "WARNING, do not fold stroller when child is seated". What neanderthal caused this sticker to be needed? I'm sure a lawsuit was involved.
 
Dr. Dastardly said:
I really don't think its so much stupidity as it is American greed.
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Yeah, reminds of a guy here in Virginia that sued Toyota and won. Toyota's "crime"? Failing to warn passengers that having the seatback fully reclined renders seatbelts and airbags ineffective in preventing serious injury. :eek:

It is this iPod lawsuit that is causing demands for tort reform that will end up hurting those that have true claims against manufacturers for bad design choices.

nichos said:
So what does he want to accomplish? IANAL, but don't class action suits usually result in a small payout to the people involved?
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Generally, yes. But those "activist" judges are at it again. IIRC the judge in the Netflix CAL sent the deal back because it did not serve the injured parties properly. Many CAL's are a financial boon to companies, because it requires the injured parties to buy other products and/or services from the offending company.
 
Patterson does not know if the device has damaged his hearing, said his attorney, Steve W. Berman, of Seattle. But that's beside the point of the lawsuit, which takes issue with the potential the iPod has to cause irreparable hearing loss, Berman said.
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Yeah, and I'm going to sue Wustof because my knives have the potential to cause irreparable loss of life... :rolleyes:
 
Dr. Dastardly said:
I really don't think its so much stupidity as it is American greed.
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rdowns said:
Americans are out of control with these damn frivolous lawsuits. We need reform in this area big time.
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It's even funnier here in the UK. There is the general perception of a growing compensation culture that is creating many frivilous cases, such as one individual suing his local supermarket because they put a flier halfway through his letterbox and his dog injured itself trying to jump up and grab it. Such things get heavily reported and the myth grows. Then the case goes to court, gets thrown out at the first instance (which doesn't get reported) and the Claimant ends up saddled with costs. This is also the reason that many of the "no win, no fee" personal injury firms that suddenly appeared after a liberalisation of the financing rules a few years have silently vanished.
betbest1 said:
Is it true that in Europe, iPods have a volume cap built-in to their firmware?
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Within the European Union the limit on these things is 105 dB, which is exactly as high the iPod goes in this territory. I wouldn't want to speculate on rogue states such as Switzerland.
 
I wish for a happy ending, because I don't want iPods which only play on low volume, because of some greedya#§ money-hungry lowlifes.

But I'm in the EU, so I'm more worry about the fellows in the U.S..

If he wins good luck with the "high-volume-hack".
 
Deepdale said:
Let's not forget to include Safari and search engines since they provide the fast lane to countless websites showcasing pornographic images.
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I hope you had to do a driving-test before you got your license.

We should not forget, that people of all ages use the iPod and I think it's a good idea to have a volume-limit build-in in such devices as the iPod so 13-year-old Sandy won't suffer any hearing-damage by listening to David Hasselhoff 's "Hooked On A Feeling" (she already must have suffered some brain-damage).
 
Abstract said:
Maybe I should sue car companies because of the potential of getting into a car accident.
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IIRC, there was this man who bought a campmobile and while driving went into the back to make some coffee. Of course, he crashed. Then he sued the manufacturer of the campmobile for not writing into the manual that you mustn't cook coffe while driving and... won. Since then this sentence is printed into the users manual...
 
And of course it was an idiot from Louisiana. This is just another example of why I am so embarassed to tell people I live in Louisiana. :rolleyes:
 
In other news...

Apple today filed a counter suit to those who claimed hearing loss from iPods stating that since their fingers did not work that they came about the iPod illegally - Job's was quoted as saying, "how can one not have the ability to control the volume with their fingers, yet order an iPod online or hand someone a credit card or cash?" In a subsequent statement Job's compared this lawsuit to Apple suing people who purchased "uncool" music from iTunes.


What a farce - if you can not control the volume - IT'S YOUR FAULT!

The same people have lawsuits against McDonald's because they are fat and tobacco because they can't stop smoking and the casino's because they can't stop gambling, etc.

Toss it out!
 
Do iPods have AVLS ? Keep in mind that different songs have different average and maximum volumes, so if you use a safe volume for one song, that might not be enough for another song. It has to automatically cap the decibels. Asking someone to turn the volume down themselves is insufficient, because with background music, you might only notice it's too loud too late.

Also, it's not as simple as choosing an arbitrary decibel level, like 100 dB, because lower levels can still cause hearing loss, it just depends on the duration of exposure. So, say you drive to work in 30 minutes, than you can listen to louder music than you could while at work for 8 hours.

Here's a list of decibel levels, and safe durations, from the Mayo Clinic. From reading it, I'd personally like AVLS options of: Off, Safe all day (90 dB), Safe album (100 dB), Child safe (80 dB). Well, maybe with better names, but you get the idea. Also, I chose those decibel levels, but I'd obviously prefer a more informed choice.
 
iGary said:
I'm suing my power company.

I stuck my weiner into a power socket. How dare they have live current in there?
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I love a permed, er, um, area.
 
well i'm an ipod user for two years now, and yeh, my hearing is crap now... i am 15 and in the last two days at school i have not heard the bell go once!... i am told it's not just broken lol...

but i'm not genna sue apple am ! it's my fault if i lisnen to to much music... why do you think apple's ipods come with poor batteries... :p
 
This story makes me roll my eyes so much that now they hurt. I must sue someone for that. :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
 
Isn't it interesting that Apple doesn't warn people about potential hearing problems, but all iPod- and iTunes-related literature says "Don't Steal Music". They're more worried about protecting their profits than their customers.
 
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