What makes you think Hackintosh boxes are crippled? All the reports I read indicate that as long as you have the right mix of hardware, they work with few or no issues.
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Apple Sues Psystar over OpenComputer
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Crippled means some loss of function. Do a little research. One of the more OS X compatible devices to hit the shelves, the MSI Wind netbook has issues with sound. The headphone jack does not work and neither does the mic jack. Sound does work from the speakers though. Recently somebody came up with a script that you can run to turn on the headphone jack or switch back to the speakers. But it does not "stick" between boots or sleep sessions and has to be run manually. The built-in mic picks up sound and plays it back through the speakers, but does not record it with Photo booth nor broadcast it when used with Skype.
The Wind originally came with a wireless card that could not be made to work with OS X. MSI recently changed to a different model wireless card. It can be made to work with a special utility that you have to download from the card maker. Performance of the card has been poor however and the utility is required to select your wireless connection, the built-in airport control feature in the menu bar does not function. One work around is to buy a Broadcom chip set equipped wireless card. They work fine with the airport controls.
Depending on the ISO used to install OS X you can have varied degrees of function when coming out of sleep mode. Sometimes installing updates reduces resolution of the screen to 800x600. You have to reinstall the video kexts to regain function. Some users cannot boot after updating to 10.5.5, other do not have any issues. One work around is to loop a set of terminal commands while the update is installing in order to delete a change made during the update.
Keep in mind this is with OS X installed on a machine that has come to be known as one of the more compatible for it. Others have problems with video, sound, USB ports, network, sleep, resolution and the inability to install updates using Software Update from the Apple menu.
Another netbook that is proven good with OSX is the Dell mini 9. It's wireless works out of the box, but its ethernet does not work at all. Plus it uses an SSD that is way too small (16GB).
You can get close with the right hardware, but sometimes it's the simple stuff like software updates that trips up a perfect experience (Psystar as an example). Anyway the message I was referring to was directly related to notebooks, not desktop unit compatibility.
Can I sue Apple since I can't run the iPhone software on my Motorola w315? Pretty sure that wouldn't go too well.
It's not a direct analogy, but I'm sure you get the point.
It's not a direct analogy, but I'm sure you get the point.
Unfortunately. As good as it was when working, I had to send in my iBook four times for a motherboard replacement and I wasn't alone. Unlike the current models with intel or Nvidia designed chipsets, the PowerPC chipsets were Apple's own.
First, HP would have to provide an EFI emulation solution as OSX does not support BIOS. Second, for lucrative business/institution contracts, HP (an Dell and the rest of the major manufactures) needs certification from the operating system provider.
Thanks for the condescending tone, but I've done the research. Hacked OS X installs are recognized as quite stable and fully featured on hardware that closely matches Apple's own. The netbooks are a new breed of PC, they've only been on the market for what, less than three months now, and Apple doesn't have a netbook on the market (yet), so one would expect that the support wouldn't be completely solid at this point. I'm surprised the initial Hackintosh attempts on the Wind and other netbooks have been as successful as they've proven to be.
Not crippled, but they do lose some performance due to emulating EFI. Nobody has ever said the hackintosh was an ideal situation, but for some desperate times lead to desperate measures.
Embedded devices are different. The operating system of a handheld or settop device is inclosed within a firmware chip and is tailored to that device. A computer operating system is software on a hard drive designed to work with a wide array of devices.
Sorry but you are flat wrong here. The Autodesk case was specificly about used OPEN software that is re-sold. Read the case.
The term 'shrink wrapped' refers to the type of license e.g not individually negotiated contracts but the type said to be in play if you break the package seal.
No, that's not a direct analogy at all. The iPhone is a much more closed and right now embedded platform, limited to two official devices at this point, and the iPhone version of OS X isn't sold separately. Even if someone wanted to, OS X handheld can't be ported to other devices; if it could, someone would have done it by now. Mac OS X itself is far more open. Its lower level is OSS, it runs on multiple Mac configurations, and it is pretty easily installed on unsupported hardware due to the fact that little about Apple's Intel Mac hardware is proprietary to Apple.
Apple is not replete with its own set of laptop problems including the Nvidia 8600M GT issue. I might consider focusing on that had I not picked up a MBP for $1444 as I indicated. Maybe next time.
Yes, thanks for reminding me that I cannot watch Blu-ray on my brand new MBP because Steve doesn't want to pay for licensing. I'm sure he's trying to push for his own Fairplay Blu-Ray format and Apple only movies. Otherwise, he'll stick with iTunes (profit baby). And yet even though I own two AppleTV units, I cannot rent Superbad or any other number of movies in HD because for some unknown reason, they've been removed from rentals.
Speaking of which, I've tried THREE TIMES to get a simple answer as to what happened to them and if that's a glitch or they purposely removed them from rental (some are STILL on the "must see HD" lists on iTunes yet you cannot rent them in HD and some such as "No Country For Old Men" I DID rent in HD, but are now only available to buy in SD. I mean what's the point of AppleTV if you cannot rent HD movies on your own schedule? Apple not only refused to even COMMENT why I cannot rent a movie like Superbad or the Matrix (which was only available to rent in HD for a few weeks and I KNOW that WB has no issue with renting their movies on ATV in HD so it HAS to be a glitch/bug/mistake). I even got an e-mail asking me how my experience was with the feedback form and I AGAIN reiterated the lack of response and yet I got no response to that one either. If they'd just remove them from the must see list or fix the problem even, but no, they just sit there on a must-see (but no ability to see) list like a bunch of stupid idiots are running the place. No wonder the Enterprise market doesn't want to deal with Apple.
The ONLY thing I expect is that Apple has no right to try and force me to buy their hardware to continue to run my Mac library of software. This is not a price issue. I've said numerous times I'd be willing to spend $300-400 for OS X *IF* it meant I could pick the hardware I *WANT* instead of what they think I should have. I don't want a glossy screen and if I hadn't been able to get last year's model for a good price, I WOULD be looking at a Hackintosh now because I don't want a glossy screen or the loss of Firewire.
As for hardware, if the market was open and Apple provided REASONABLE access to the OS, I would imagine hardware providers would start providing their own drivers just like in the Windows world. If you want Apple drivers, buy Apple products, etc. No one said Apple couldn't continue to support their own hardware, only that they shouldn't be allowed to actively prevent competition for their hardware, which is the ONLY thing their EULA is about.
It's not dead until a court has ruled on it and either Psystar has disappeared or Apple has lost.
It might be open, but Apple wants it to be as closed as these embedded OS's. And in that regards, they might well be allowed to, and should be allowed to, because as you've seen those embedded firmwares don't work on other phones. Just as OS X doesn't work properly on other PC's without modification, regardless of the extent of modification.
EDIT: And it's limited to the range of Devices Apple has it made for.
It doesn't look like this case is going to court because Apple asked for arbitration instead.
Would you pay $500, $900 or $2000? What are you going to do if Apple starts selling what you want, but at a super-high price? Sue them over the price?
I've also said this many time - a total argument killer that I still have not seen a major problem with is if Apple loses this case, is forced to sell OS X for generic x86 hardware, and prices it as follows:
Free - With purchase of a new Mac
$129 - Upgrade Price for Macs
$1,000 - stand-alone version for generic x86 hardware.
And then goes on to not support the stand-alone version and not provide any drivers. What are you going to do then? Hold a gun to their head and force them to support it the way you want and sell it at a price you want?
Your argument falls apart when you realize that they are the copyright holder, and they control it's distribution. No matter how much you don't like their practices, hardware choices, close-systems, etc. It does not change their right to distribution of their copyrighted materials as they see fit. Not as you desire to buy it.
Sorry you took it that way. Your comments made you appear uninformed. Netbooks are a new form factor not a new technology. They use the same chips as other computers for the various functions. The only real differences are the processors and size. As I stated earlier OS X on non Apple laptops has been met with varying levels of success. Usually there are one or more problems in function.
Apple didn't ask for arbitration, it was court directed and is normal procedure for these cases.
Are you joking or what, who are you to tell Apple what market to address or I guess the people at people are idiots that they don't want to make money by catering to certain markets?
Please provide some proof for this statement. Just because something breaks doesn't mean they break as much as something else.
I think you may have your legal terminology mixed up. A settlement conference occurs prior to trial, and a court may order mediation between the parties, but arbitration only occurs if the parties agree to it. Compared to tiny Psystar, Apple has infinite legal resources. If Apple were completely confident of victory on its terms, there would be no incentive for Apple to enter into arbitration.
Ok, just this one time I'm going to help you out with your research, but in the future you are on your own. Please read this to get a better understanding of the case and why they are in Alternative Dispute Resolution. Your use of the word "arbitration" was incorrect, but I let it slide the first time.
I thought it was arbitration since the articles I read said it was arbitration. If it's just mediation then that's a different story and I apologize for reading inaccurate reporting. But dude, could you be just a little more snide? My use and understanding of the word arbitration, one of the forms of ADR, was accurate.
Under that system apple will also have to offer macs with a os with cost removed from the system just like how dell and others are forced to give you a refund on system that come with a pay of os.
I say that full install os mac osx to be about $200 same price as the full vista oem install.
Most of the mac systems are at least $200 or more over the cost of other systems with the same hardware.
Hehehe, I would like to see how many people will be lining up when Apple decides to charge a thousand dollars.
They can do whatever they want, but a $1000 fee still puts them in serious danger of losing the previously very loyal high end users.
I had the idea of charging a certification fee of around $50-100 to the computer and retail motherboard makers for each EFI motherboard capable of running Mac OS X. If they didn't pay, it they would receive no support from Apple.