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Epistar president Chin-Yung Fan said his company's clients are developing notebooks, tablets, smartphones, and monitors with Mini-LED backlighting systems, which will naturally boost demand for Mini-LEDs in the second half of 2020, according to Taiwanese industry publication DigiTimes.

Epistar is an Apple supplier, leading to the possibility that the iPhone maker is one of the unnamed clients working on Mini-LED products, as previously rumored, but Epistar declined to comment on any specific clients.

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Last week, noted Apple analyst Ming-Chi Kuo of investor firm TF International Securities said Apple plans to release an iPad with a Mini-LED display between the fourth quarter of 2020 and the first quarter of 2021, followed by a MacBook with a Mini-LED display in the first or second quarter of 2021.

Kuo said Epistar will be one of Apple's suppliers for those iPad and MacBook models. Epistar is the largest LED manufacturer in Taiwan.

Kuo expects the iPad and MacBook to be positioned at the high end of their respective product lines due to costly Mini-LED display components, suggesting they will be iPad Pro and MacBook Pro models. He previously said the iPad will have a 10-12 inch screen and the MacBook will fall in the 15-17 inch range.

Kuo added that the Mini-LED backlit displays will allow for thinner and lighter product designs, while offering many of the same benefits of OLED displays used on the latest iPhones, including good wide color gamut performance, high contrast and dynamic range, and local dimming for truer blacks.

The future iPad and MacBook displays will each use approximately 10,000 LEDs, compared to 576 in Apple's upcoming Pro Display XDR, according to Kuo. Each LED is said to be very small -- below 200 microns in size.

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Apple continues to use traditional LCDs across its entire iPad and Mac lineups for now, but if this rumor proves to be accurate, we can expect the first Mini-LED models within the next 12 to 18 months or so. Prices will likely start on the higher side, but the technology should shuffle its way down the lineup over the years.

Article Link: Apple Supplier Epistar Says Clients Are Working on Mini-LED Products Amid Rumors of Mini-LED iPad and MacBook
 
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gridlocked

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I'd like to see that thinner space savings go to removable/replaceable batteries.

Kuo added that the Mini-LED backlit displays will allow for thinner and lighter product designs, while offering many of the same benefits of OLED displays used on the latest iPhones, including good wide color gamut performance, high contrast and dynamic range, and local dimming for truer blacks.
 

jimbobb24

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Backlighting systems are cool. I hope we go to LED displays sometime. Although a display that lasts 10 years might not be worth it on a phone that people only have 2-5 years.
 

cmaier

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What is the advantage of mini-LEDs that would make a screen made with them more attractive than the LCD screens we have now?
Higher contrast ratios. Instead of having to backlight the entire screen, if a region of the screen is dark there is no need to light up that portion of the screen. May also reduce power consumption somewhat, if most of the screen is dark.
 

Alan Wynn

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What is the advantage of mini-LEDs that would make a screen made with them more attractive than the LCD screens we have now?

These are LCD screens, just back light with more individual LEDs than more traditional LCD screens. They are called mini LED screens as that is the differentiator (vs. standard LED backlight).
 

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It has all the advantages of an LCD and oled but NONE of the disadvantages
So no blacklight bleed, no low contrast ratio, no burn-in, no high consumption no blue pixel wear off etc
Nay... Mini-LED is not a LED Display (such as µLED), but instead just LED backlight.
Your statement is correct for µLED though...
 

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Based on what someone is testing inside since 2017, the base of the laptop is a trackpad, until you click/point into a text section and the lower part transform in a very light feel feedback keyboard with the upper part with a twice as big touch bar
When you point into an drawing area, the trackpad transforms into a drawing display and so on
 

dannys1

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What is the advantage of mini-LEDs that would make a screen made with them more attractive than the LCD screens we have now?

Read about OLED - then read the shortcomings of OLED, then read about micro-LED, then read about how mini-LED is a cheaper compromise and a more commercial viable alternative for micro-LED and you'll know all you need to know.
 

now i see it

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Current mini LED tech dims each one of those small suckers with PWM. PWM is eventually going to infect their whole product line (except the earphones). Say goodbye to your eyeballs
 

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Apple continues to use LCDs across its entire iPad and Mac lineups for now, but if this rumor proves to be accurate, we can expect the first Mini-LED models within the next 12 to 18 months or so. Prices will likely start on the higher side, but the technology should shuffle its way down the lineup in the years to come.

"Mini-LED" is still LCD.
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In the meantime HP just released a new Spectre 13 X360 with Ice Lake, OLED and 22 hours battery life.

Which is relevant to this...how exactly???
 
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kemal

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Great. Better battery life as less energy is consumed by the LCD backlighting. Apple will reduce the battery size and make the PCB larger with a single sided load. All to make the laptop thinner.
 

StellarVixen

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Just shows how far behind the competitors Apple is when it comes to laptops (and screen tech in particular).
That's just your subjective opinion. Every display technology has its pros and cons. OLED is not some kind of flawless alien technology that everyone MUST use.
 

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That's just your subjective opinion. Every display technology has its pros and cons. OLED is not some kind of flawless alien technology that everyone MUST use.
But it is the only technology that Apple uses for their main product (flagship iPhone models). It is kind of "must use" (for the flagship devices be it smartphones or laptops)
 

falainber

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No, because this is not "one size fits all" scenario.
Are you saying that OLED does not fit Mac Book users? Are they special or something? I am sure many would love to have OLED displays just like they love having OLED displays on iPhones. Sure some would opt for cheaper LCD but having OLED option would definitely be nice.
 
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