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Apple Supplier Foxconn Considering Wisconsin Plant

mrkramer said:
I'm sure it will be better for the environment to have them manufactured here instead of shipped from China. This won't create many jobs as most of it will be automated though.
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I wonder if that's true though. The displays made here would likely be shipped to China, just to be shipped back here after the product is assembled. And China is ironically soon to take the lead on producing green energy. Would be interesting to see an environmental impact calculation vs. just making the displays in a factory in the same region/city as the production facilities in China as is done now.
 
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theheadguy said:
Too bad leftists couldn't get in before you wrote nonsense. Let me guess, you want the new plant to be powered by coal.
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Except you DO realize that coal plants in the US use/used scrubbers to clean the exhaust. Let’s look at China for having the highest pollution rates. Also, what is it that plants breathe? Why yes, carbon dioxide! God’s creation is a beautiful balance.
 
budselectjr said:
In before the leftists say more manufacturing in America is a bad thing
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ummmm... who exactly listens to leftists? they are on the same level as right-wingnuts. i.e. living in la la land.

Did you mean liberals? If so, when have you ever heard a liberal argue against manufacturing here? They do not. They argue for utilizing best practices that don't harm our irreplaceable environment. Which, with today's technology, can be done.
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Jimmy Bubbles said:
Except you DO realize that coal plants in the US use/used scrubbers to clean the exhaust. Let’s look at China for having the highest pollution rates. Also, what is it that plants breathe? Why yes, carbon dioxide! God’s creation is a beautiful balance.
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And that would be true of God's creation if we weren't deforesting the planet at an alarming rate. While pumping tonnes of carbon into the atmosphere. It doesn't magically disappear.
 
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budselectjr said:
In before the leftists say more manufacturing in America is a bad thing
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That's the most ignorant comment I've read in weeks.

I voted for Sanders in the primary and then Jill Stein in the general (New York).

Like I mentioned, I live in NY, and Upstate NY at that. All my life I've driven by rusted out factories and crumbling warehouses. Recently I've wondered what it would take for my city to get its mojo back, as it was one of the top 15 biggest cities in 1950.

I'm actually upset that New York isn't mentioned in this article. I'm sure many "leftists" would are ecstatic over this as well, contrary to your thoughtful analysis.

I think this growth is great but i think it's fake too, and a crash is coming under the Trump regime.
 
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2010mini said:
ummmm... who exactly listens to leftists? they are on the same level as right-wingnuts. i.e. living in la la land.

Did you mean liberals? If so, when have you ever heard a liberal argue against manufacturing here? They do not. They argue for utilizing best practices that don't harm our irreplaceable environment. Which, with today's technology, can be done.
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And that would be true of God's creation if we weren't deforesting the planet at an alarming rate. While pumping tonnes of carbon into the atmosphere. It doesn't magically disappear.
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You must be Al Gore’s number 1 fan.
 
tennisproha said:
Yeah… more like nonexistent technically skilled workforce. It's gonna be a while before any of this ever happens.
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LOL....you do know that most of those Chinese workers are from poor villages and have very little education? If they can learn how to do it, any American can. Apple and the other Western companies aren't using them for their technical skills....they are using them because they will work for peanuts.
 
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dmx said:
Glad to see this. With the level of automation in an entirely new facility, there isn't going to be a significant impact on pricing, I would guess it's a cost that Apple would be willing to eat for the goodwill alone - while, of course, keeping the bulk of manufacturing in China.
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Not even Goodwill would do that, just saying haha. I wouldn’t bank on it
 
Jimmy Bubbles said:
Except you DO realize that coal plants in the US use/used scrubbers to clean the exhaust. Let’s look at China for having the highest pollution rates. Also, what is it that plants breathe? Why yes, carbon dioxide! God’s creation is a beautiful balance.
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Lol! Love the sarcasm, very witty. Mocking the uninformed by using their arguments to show the absurdity of of those same arguments; priceless. I worry, though, that some might not understand that China is, in fact, rapidly becoming a world leader in green energy; that clean coal is a buzzword and not practical or possible in most cases; that claiming that human-generated carbon dioxide can be absorbed by the human diminished forests might be too satirical for most to catch. That said, I applaud your belief that our fellow MR readers will be able to appreciate the subtlety of your mockery and believe Jonathan Swift would commend your efforts. Well done.
 
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ChrisA said:
Yes this is EXACTLY why the current system is the best thing. What I was hinting at above: If an "America First" person were negotiating with China about how to split up jobs he'd say "Lets put all the 180K per year engineering and design jobs in California and all the minimum wage zero-skill manufacturing jobs in China." You would THINK the Chinese would object to such a plan but NO. That is what happened.

But now maybe things are reversing and it will be Americans working 12 hour shift in dead end jobs for minimum wage building Chines designed goods that they themselves will never be able to afford.
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Except that the Chinese corporations rarely design anything. They still copy (often through IP theft) Western designs. Maybe one day they will learn how to become innovators instead of blatant copycats. That will also coincide with the day when they STOP doing their stupid Apple Retail Store Clones and their dozens of Chinese CEOs pretending to be "The Next Steve Jobs", bluejeans and black turtleneck, etc.

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mrkramer said:
I'm sure it will be better for the environment to have them manufactured here instead of shipped from China. This won't create many jobs as most of it will be automated though.
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As many components are made in china it will be the same or worse for the environment as they are shipping all of the parts to the USA.
 
If they do this I can guarantee it will use completely automated assembly lines. It's the only way it would be profitable.
 
jdillings said:
LOL....you do know that most of those Chinese workers are from poor villages and have very little education? If they can learn how to do it, any American can. Apple and the other Western companies aren't using them for their technical skills....they are using them because they will work for peanuts.
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He's not talking about the assembly line you are referring to. That can obviously be found anywhere. He's talking about the technical knowhow needed for the tooling and design infrastructure. Decades of mass manufacturing has seen China perfect its manufacturing process. No other nation can match it currently. This is why some of the most high precision and complex machine-made products are currently made in China, while the handmade precision products are made in Switzerland.
 
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jdillings said:
But I thought the naysayers said there was no one left in the U.S. with manufacturing skills
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They use the word "skill" just to soften their tones. Their real meaning is "willingness to repeat tiresome actions 8-10 hours a day, at a bursting speed during the WHOLE DAY, for a minimum wage".
 
DaveOP said:
Ignorance must be bliss. Your post is truly filled with evidence, and thoughtful responses to facts and opinions in this thread.
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Yep. Typical lefty robotic smug response. Liberalism truly takes the humanity out of people.
 
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