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I'm a fan of tactile, physical buttons. Car manufacturers rushed to onscreen controls, for everything including the volume, and it required more attention to make changes using on screen buttons. Many car makers have returned to physical controls for some items, like the sound system.

I'm thinking for phones, there are still advantages in using physical buttons. Since I'll be getting an iPhone 15 this year, I'm happy about the delay.
 
They weren’t cancelled 🤦‍♂️ , there were never going to happen in the first place
 
a solid state capacitive button like the home button on the iPhone 8 and similar won’t work at all if you are wearing gloves. It doesn’t matter how hard you press it, it just won’t be triggered. How can it possibly be ‘a win’ for gloves users?
The volume buttons were not rumored to be capacitive, they were rumored to be pressure sensitive.
So... gloves or not, they would work.
 
I was thinking recently that the solid state buttons might be very difficult, if not impossible to use underwater
 
Mmmm. Not so sure.

I mean, aside from the problem of finding room in the phone for an extra Taptic Engine, we also now have a phone that won’t work while you’re wearing gloves. If this phone was ever on the drawing board, it was swept into the bin pretty quickly.


You are confusing capacitive buttons (like the iPhone 7 home button) with what these volume buttons were rumored to be, which was pressure sensitive.
Of course the buttons were absolutely not going to be capacitive, then they wouldn't work through cases either.
But pressure sensitive would've aloud them to have all the benefits of virtual buttons, while still working through gloves and cases.
 
I wonder if this also means that the IP rating might not be as high as they would have liked? Although there are still plenty of holes in the thing!
 
Shame the solid state buttons didn't work out. I was looking forward to it even though I know a lot of you aren't a fan of them.

At least the Action Button is still coming so that's a plus.
 
The volume buttons were not rumored to be capacitive, they were rumored to be pressure sensitive.
So... gloves or not, they would work.
Problem is, to measure pressure you need it to move…so it’s no longer a solid state button.

The Mac trackpad is a larger surface and you can measure when it deforms under the finger(s) pressure, but in a tiny button is harder.

Also, battery. To sense pressure you need to “poll” (and provide energy) to the sensor dozens of times each second (so the button seems responsive).

But as other user said, you cannot use the screen with gloves, so Apple thinking could be, you need to bare-finger touch your screen and also the buttons.
 
The volume buttons were not rumored to be capacitive, they were rumored to be pressure sensitive.
So... gloves or not, they would work.
It cannot be ‘pressure sensitive’ without moving. To measure pressure you need movement, and all rumours indicated solid state buttons (=no movement). I can’t imagine other ways of triggering a solid state button without a capacitive sensor, but maybe I am missing something. How did you think this pressure sensing was going to be a chi ever on a solid state part?
 
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I find it hilarious that all there is to talk about regarding Apple anymore is an AR/VR headset that sounds like overpriced garbage and solid state buttons on iPhones. Once the laughter stops though, it is all quite sad.
I was about to write something similar. How depressing is it that these are all that’s left to talk about?
 
I was about to write something similar. How depressing is it that these are all that’s left to talk about?
All this talk about buttons is definitely a depressing matter.

Such a pressing matter demands immediate attention.

I’m glad MR is pushing us into conversation.
 
I wonder was the solid state buttons cancelled because the button design itself generated too much RF, which violated US and European RF emission regulations for portable electronic devices...
 
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Alas, it's only "unresolved technical issues" that prevailed, according to Kuo, not opposition to solid state buttons as such.
Yea, the “unresolved technical issues” are that it was a bad idea from the start. Hopefully they will trash the idea. SS buttons are not the best for this use. It would impose too many limitations on case designs and offer no real advantage to the user. Perhaps they could be made more waterproof but is that really needed? Are the current physical buttons really the weakest link in iPhone waterproofness? And even if they are, aren’t iPhones waterproof enough? They don’t need to be able to be used as actual underwater cameras.
 
Tim Cook after walking down to engineering: “Why am I reading stories online of a Square Apple Watch and Haptic buttons for the iPhone? Is there something y’all aren’t telling me?”
 
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