Apple Supplier Shrinks Down Capacitors Needed for 5G iPhone, Freeing Up Valuable Internal Space

[Freida]

Fair enough. Although there is an increased risk over the older tech but I guess we could only speculate how much and if its a problem. I feel 5G hasn't really been tested thoroughly as these days there often seems to be massive rush to bring things to the market. Regardless, time will tell what/if there is/was an issue.
Meanwhile I'll set up a tent in a forest

Sorry I have sworn off back and forth discussions on the following topics/groups: antivaxxers; climate change deniers; flat earthers; chemtrails; alt-right/white nationalists; cellphone radios and/or windmills cause cancer.

I’ll leave it where it stands: you think 5G seems to be a massive health risk and my opinion is that there is no increased health risk over 2G/3G/4G that is attributable to 5G.

 

[NickName99]

You are correct but eventually(guessing from history) the technology will develop. Like how the first iPod had an ipod nano version later on.

There is another benefit to 5G, and that is it was made to handle high congestion.

Hey finally some sorta good news! I hope you’re right about it handling congestion better. I live in a major city and I never notice any congestion on my iPhone XS. I didn’t when I visited NY this year either. Maybe it’s more of a future-proofing thing.

 

[theorist9]

So of course the article leaves out the key piece of info.: How many cubic mm of space are saved? No way to know that w/o knowing how many capacitors are used (which they don't give) and their volumes (which they also don't give). As is typical of technical reporting in the popular press....

 

[nikaru]

So of course the article leaves out the key piece of info.: How many cubic mm of space are saved? No way to know that w/o knowing how many capacitors are used (which they don't give) and their volumes (which they also don't give). As is typical of technical reporting in the popular press....

It is not about about saving space, but leaving space to other components, as well as thermal and energy efficiency. Only Apple knows how to measure the real advantages so Im not really sure that even the specialized press could give you the kind of details you are expecting. In any case, it is good news (and thats all we care about) that an important component such as the capacitors in the iPhone are evolving and not only the CPU/GPU, camera and display as it usually happens.

 

[nukenight]

Sounds to me like they found a material with a 10x dielectric constant that can be made into a small capacitor. This makes me wonder if these components will be ready for prime time. Recently, Apple has had its share of strange loop disease type of failures. My 363 day old iPad died last week and would not charge because of a bad chip on the motherboard. Pushing electronics technology is good, but you need robust parts as well.

 

[jermwhl]

Fair enough. Although there is an increased risk over the older tech but I guess we could only speculate how much and if its a problem. I feel 5G hasn't really been tested thoroughly as these days there often seems to be massive rush to bring things to the market. Regardless, time will tell what/if there is/was an issue.
Meanwhile I'll set up a tent in a forest

What is your concern with thoroughly testing 5G? Your concern seems to be health related? 5G, in terms of frequency, is nothing new. There are PLENTY of 24Ghz and above frequencies bouncing around right now. Regardless of where you are. Many satellites are using frequencies up in that spectrum. It's pretty safe to say that there is worldwide saturation at 24Ghz and above. Feel free to hide in a forest somewhere, the satellites in geo-sync above you are still beaming down. If you're truly concerned about the health risks posed with RF, you may want to focus on output power, rather than frequency.
However, if your concern is 5G being deployed too rapidly before it can get all the bugs worked out, that seems like a simple enough solution - wait it out. 4G isn't going anywhere anytime soon.

 

[Freida]

You are right. I am waiting it out for now. No need to rush to new tech.

As for health, who knows what the reality is but I think we can all agree that today's society suffers from way more cancer etc. than 100 years ago and tech is probably a part of it together with pollution, nutrition etc.
So, in my eyes, I can control nutrition (to certain degree). I can't control pollution and I can certainly control tech. Regardless, you are right. The question is, eventually with all this RF etc. if we keep bumping it up then there might be a point where we really screw up on a big scale.

its to be seen though

What is your concern with thoroughly testing 5G? Your concern seems to be health related? 5G, in terms of frequency, is nothing new. There are PLENTY of 24Ghz and above frequencies bouncing around right now. Regardless of where you are. Many satellites are using frequencies up in that spectrum. It's pretty safe to say that there is worldwide saturation at 24Ghz and above. Feel free to hide in a forest somewhere, the satellites in geo-sync above you are still beaming down. If you're truly concerned about the health risks posed with RF, you may want to focus on output power, rather than frequency.
However, if your concern is 5G being deployed too rapidly before it can get all the bugs worked out, that seems like a simple enough solution - wait it out. 4G isn't going anywhere anytime soon.

 

[SamuraiArtGuy]

"Charge capacitors to electrify cloud!!!"

 

[mi7chy]

How about more focus on reliability? Too many instances of devices failing due to SMD capacitor shorting out.

 

[MacBH928]

Hey finally some sorta good news! I hope you’re right about it handling congestion better. I live in a major city and I never notice any congestion on my iPhone XS. I didn’t when I visited NY this year either. Maybe it’s more of a future-proofing thing.

I believe lower LTE speeds is due to congestion, when you are in the city and you get 30Mbps but when you go to a place that is less crowded you get 90Mbps. I am not sure if this is the case but this is my only explanation.

You will notice the congestion when you are in a crowded point, as everyone there is connected to the nearest tower. Kind of like Time Square on new year or when attending a big event like Super Bowl with 90 thousand people in the same stadium.