Apple Supplier TSMC Reportedly Begins Production of A15 Bionic Chip for iPhone 13

[Populus]

My Apple Watch allows me to unlock the phone with my mask on.

Good for you, if Apple included an Apple Watch with each iPhone, that would be a great solution. However, not everyone has an Apple Watch. I don't see the need to buy another device, that I have to charge every night, just to be able to unlock my phone without entering the passcode each time.

 

[Populus]

V9 will have very little effect on performance and power efficiency. Most of what is in v9 is incorporating optional things from v8, which apple has already done. What remains has nothing to do with performance.

Most of these "improvements" are already in Apple's designs. So while we might see some improvement if Apple adopts Armv9, It won't be as significant as these claims.

Thank you both for your clarification, and lowering my hype. See, when I saw that graph I suspected that was more focused towards Qualcomm and such companies... but still I had the hopes of seeing great improvements in a generation that won't get any transistor shrink

 

[cmaier]

Thank you both for your clarification, and lowering my hype. See, when I saw that graph I suspected that was more focused towards Qualcomm and such companies... but still I had the hopes of seeing great improvements in a generation that won't get any transistor shrink

There will be a 20% performance improvement, regardless of the process.

 

[MacFree39RU]

Why doesn't anyone care about heat dissipation? It is still very bad.

 

[Realityck]

Considering the chip will likely debut in the new iPhones in September, I highly doubt they would make any mention of it at WWDC. I don’t think they’ve ever done that.

They might skip the specific naming of SoC's during WWDC like they did with the M1, but one would suspect they need to show the future is not limited to SoC examples we have had up to now. Pair that with MacOS 15 developer preview likely to launch with future hardware hints.

 

[Populus]

Why doesn't anyone care about heat dissipation? It is still very bad.

I have a hunch that we’ll get improved heat dissipation starting with the 2022 iPhone generation. IPhones will be bigger (huge) and Apple will be able to use vapor chambers to boost the clock and improve the performance. Not having to worry about the smaller 5.4” devices will allow Apple to make a bold move in that regard.

I am a fan of the iPhone mini, but I think that’s what will happen. Bigger phones, bigger batteries, more freedom to unleash the power of the silicon.

 

[NorthernSkyLights]

I may upgrade this year from 11 Pro Max to 13 Pro Max will see.

if any of leaks stay true then I’ll be excited and consider it more. If not I’ll stick with the one I have.

 

[harmoniumfarfisa]

I for one can't wait for a thicker phone to replace the size vs. camera improvements debate that weighed down the 12 series. If they can up the battery life, and tone down the AI in images, and improve the screen, it has the potential to be a real winner.

So now I'm wondering what minor things Apple will screw up. September can't come fast enough.

 

[Think creative]

Is it just me or has the fad of being super hyped for the next phone over? Like, people will upgrade, and the videos will still come, but it's the mac's that are exiting right now. Phones are (and have been for a few years) really good. Hell I'm on the SE2 and I don't desperately want a new one, other than liking the idea of more colors. But the laptops and new desktops? Super stoked to see what they come up with. Fingers crossed on a cheaper external display too!

 

[LancesUK]

ARM v9 will offer variable SVE/SVE2, which is a biggie for many, including Virtual Instruments plugins for those who work with music production. This alone has the potential to render the M1/M1X obsolete way sooner than most think. It’s the reason I’m holding buying a new mac and skipping the first generation on Apple Silicon. If one can wait, one should wait for the next SoC using v9. These will remain relevant way longer than the M1…

 

[cmaier]

ARM v9 will offer variable SVE/SVE2, which is a biggie for many, including Virtual Instruments plugins for those who work with music production. This alone has the potential to render the M1/M1X obsolete way sooner than most think. It’s the reason I’m holding buying a new mac and skipping the first generation on Apple Silicon. If one can wait, one should wait for the next SoC using v9. These will remain relevant way longer than the M1…

Why, exactly, is variable SVE relevant to music production?

 

[LancesUK]

Why, exactly, is variable SVE relevant to music production?

I'm not a programer nor an expert on this subject by all means, but there are already a number of developers taking advantage of the current AVX set of instructions on x86 to run their latest crops of VIs. For instance, IK Multimedia's Modo Drums won't even run of a full blown 2010 Mac Pro because its Xeons lack the ability to run AVX. By the way, these plugins can't be emulated via Rosetta at all. Porting to Apple Silicon is no easy task in this case.

I think that investing on a SoC using ARM v8 at this point makes little sense as it will become obsolete way sooner that it should, given that widespread adoption of SVE2 under v9 will become a reality in a few years time. Of course, for most people SVE2 probably won't matter, but for those who rely on emulation/simulation software like many audio plugins, it will. Imagine buying an M1X and three, four years ahead it loses the ability to run the latest and greatest VIs? I like to keep my computers for at least 6-7 years, but that's me...

Hope this helps. There's a very interesting discussion about this on Gearspace.com if you're interested, by the way. Cheers!

 

[cmaier]

I'm not a programer nor an expert on this subject by all means, but there are already a number of developers taking advantage of the current AVX set of instructions on x86 to run their latest crops of VIs. For instance, IK Multimedia's Modo Drums won't even run of a full blown 2010 Mac Pro because its Xeons lack the ability to run AVX. By the way, these plugins can't be emulated via Rosetta at all. Porting to Apple Silicon is no easy task in this case.

I think that investing on a SoC using ARM v8 at this point makes little sense as it will become obsolete way sooner that it should, given that widespread adoption of SVE2 under v9 will become a reality in a few years time. Of course, for most people SVE2 probably won't matter, but for those who rely on emulation/simulation software like many audio plugins, it will. Imagine buying an M1X and three, four years ahead it loses the ability to run the latest and greatest VIs? I like to keep my computers for at least 6-7 years, but that's me...

Hope this helps. There's a very interesting discussion about this on Gearspace.com if you're interested, by the way. Cheers!

Ok. Doesn’t really help. I’m a cpu designer and I’ve read the spec, and I don’t see these new instructions as making much of a difference in any but the most exotic cases. I’m just not familiar with what these plugins do.

V9 is the least consequential architectural update I’m aware of. It really shouldn’t even be called v9.

 

[d1zguy]

I am hoping this phone brings in substantial (at least 30% better battery over my 11 pro)(so that would mean 24-25 hours of battery life vs 18 that the 11 pro gets) that's really the only reason I'll upgrade to it. If it doesn't I'll my existing 11 pro in to Apple to have a fresh new battery installed and keep it for another 2 years

the 12 Pro actually went down 1 hour of video watch time vs the 11 pro they really should pay more importance to battery tech and longetivity at this point we should have Motorola startac levels of usage between full charges. Tim should release a extended life plus phone with say latest architecture and iPhone 11 Pro levels of performance for maximum battery life.

 

[DeVipera]

Anyone with link to the wallpaper? Thanks!