I’ll never again knowingly buy the first iteration of any new display. Had my fingers burned too many times on devices ranging from iPads to laptops to TVs. I‘ll be letting the early adopters do the beta testing and longevity tests on an OLED endowed iPad before parting with the inevitable thousand dollars.
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Apple Suppliers Preparing for First OLED iPad in 2024, Followed by OLED MacBook
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Same here. I bought an LG C8 (2018 model) OLED in 2019, and it's just great. Later, I also bought a Sony X900H (2020 model) FALD VA LED LCD in 2021, hoping it lived up to its hype, but it's just not in the same league as even that older OLED. Even though I got a very good deal on the X900H, and it's only secondary TV for my home office, I regret the X900H purchase. In retrospect, I would have been happier spending 50% more to buy another OLED instead.
Wouldn't be too worried. Here's a test done with OLED TVs from 2017:
Real-Life OLED Burn-In Test On 6 TVs
There are concerns about OLED long-term performance due to the possibility of burn-in. We bought 6 LG OLED C7s to play real, non-altered content. It should give you a better idea of what to expect depending on what you watch on your TV.
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While there are some concerns, newer panels there should be even better. But of course it all depends how you use the TV/display. A computer user showing many bring, static objects for a long time, but I think if one just sets the display when not in use and to go to sleep and/or use a screen saver it's very unlikely that a burn-in will occur. Also, since the peak brightness of newer OLED displays is higher, one can run at a – relatively to peak – lower brightness that should reduce the risk even further.
I’d definitely be concerned about the Apple or “File” staying on screen, especially if I’m on the computer every day for 5-10 hrs. LG tried installing OLEDs in Seoul’s airport when they first came out, it had to pull them in a matter of months due to the arrival/departure information sitting on screen, unmoving, for hours at a time. The flights would change, but the layouts, headers, etc would still be visible even if the screens were off. Not saying they haven’t solved that in the intervening years, but would definitely want someone else to confirm for me first!Wouldn't be too worried. Here's a test done with OLED TVs from 2017:
Real-Life OLED Burn-In Test On 6 TVs
There are concerns about OLED long-term performance due to the possibility of burn-in. We bought 6 LG OLED C7s to play real, non-altered content. It should give you a better idea of what to expect depending on what you watch on your TV.
While there are some concerns, newer panels there should be even better. But of course it all depends how you use the TV/display. A computer user showing many bring, static objects for a long time, but I think if one just sets the display when not in use and to go to sleep and/or use a screen saver it's very unlikely that a burn-in will occur. Also, since the peak brightness of newer OLED displays is higher, one can run at a – relatively to peak – lower brightness that should reduce the risk even further.
Bringing iPhone garbage to iPads and Mac. Goodbye eyeballs.
OLEDs have been more then good enough for years, TV’s have advanced the tech year after year. It seems to me this rumour is incorrect, why would Apple develop mini LED but then drop it for OLED 4 years later? When it’s used OLED in multiple devices for years already. Why would they waste all that time and R&D and money on Mini LED technology?
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i will replace my ipad when there is an oled model. i'm not touching the crappy mini led ipad pro. same goes for macs. skip right past mini led and give me OLED pls.
i dont see people complaining about their iphone x, xs, 11, 12, or 13 models...which have OLED.
i will replace my ipad when there is an oled model. i'm not touching the crappy mini led ipad pro. same goes for macs. skip right past mini led and give me OLED pls.
wtf you talking about lol. we've had OLED iphones for how long now? (5 years) so whats the difference with an iPad?
i dont see people complaining about their iphone x, xs, 11, 12, or 13 models...which have OLED.
iPads likely need to have more robust OLED technology than TVs and iPhones, since the usage is different. Burn in is still a potential issue. People generally don't use iPhones and TVs as computer displays, thereby mitigating the risk of burn-in. For those that do use TVs as computer-like displays (gamers and people who hook up computers to their TVs), the risk of burn-in is still significant.
iPads are now being touted... and used... as laptop replacements. In that context, one would want OLEDs with more burn-in resistance/pixel longevity.
Mini-LED has the advantage of high brightness, as well as better black levels over traditional IPS, so why not adopt it? (Yes it does have disadvantages, but for most, the advantages outweigh the disadvantages.) Mini-LED is an incremental technology, but one that could be used for many years. Once OLED becomes feasible, then they can adopt that. The other advantage of new OLED technology besides burn-in resistance/pixel longevity is increased brightness, which would go a long way to matching that advantage of mini-LED screens.
Meanwhile, microLED is still basically vapourware.
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One would like to think so but my old 10.5" iPad Pro and 15" Retina MacBook Pro both disagree. The former had backlight bloom above the home button, and the MacBook had both awful image retention and several stuck & dead pixels after one year of use. Both documented problems. I'm not saying Apple are any worse than anyone else but when you take off the rose tinted Apple Glasses, their track record with displays in their devices is inconsistent at best. Certainly not an outstanding history of being extra careful.
What's that wallpaper though?
China's BOE Technology is preparing to supply Apple with OLED displays for future iPad and MacBook models, The Elec reports.
In preparation for Apple's supply requirements, BOE will build a Gen 8.6 OLED display panel production line at its B16 factory in Sichuan Province, China, according to The Elec. The new production line will reportedly open toward the end of 2024. The company plans to rival South Korea's Samsung Display and LG Display in supplying Apple with OLED panels for future iPad and MacBook models.
Both Samsung and LG are said to use Gen 6 production lines for their first OLED panels for iPads, before using Gen 8.5 production lines for various Apple devices set to debut after the launch of the first iPad model with an OLED display. Gen 8.5 production lines yield more OLED panels per substrate than Gen 6 lines and is therefore more cost effective.
BOE is also testing two-stack tandem OLED technology, which can offer increased brightness and longevity. This makes two-stack tandem OLED displays more suitable for devices like iPads and MacBooks, since they are often used for a longer period of time than smartphones.
The Elec reaffirmed that Apple is planning to introduce its first iPad models with OLED displays in 2024. A previous report situated the launch of the first MacBook with an OLED display in 2025, depending on the success of new 11- and 12.9-inch OLED iPad Pro models from the previous year.
Article Link: Apple Suppliers Preparing for First OLED iPad in 2024, Followed by OLED MacBook
How are we going to skip it? It essentially doesn't even really exist, except for essentially concept products.
It feels more like a marketing gimmick at this point. Most people can’t tell the difference with all these marginal display improvements. Side by side, you’ll sometimes notice some improvements, but in most everyday use, not much.
The difference between OLED and mini-LED is extremely obvious in a darkened room. Where it is much less obvious is in a bright room. And in fact, in a bright room, mini-LED is sometimes superior.
IOW, it depends on your use case and preferences.
I've seen Full Array, Locally Dimmed LCD TVs, which are simply the larger version of the MBP's miniLED (doesn't need to be as mini when you're putting it in a 60" TV). And I own a 2017 LG OLED. I've also owned LCDs with CCFL and edge-lit LED backlights. The FALD LCD is clearly superior to the CCFL and edge-lit models, but the OLED simply tramples even the locally dimmed display with its color saturation and backlight control. Having the display edges disappear while watching dark movie scenes is a mind blowing experience the first time you see it, and backlight 'bloom' is something that's hard to unsee once you notice it - both of these are situations where the OLED is fantastic.
But OLED isn't perfect, and given what I've heard in the past, I'd be wary using it for an often-static computer screen.
Because big OLED are very expensive to make, and they are much more difficult to match the brightness of smaller OLED panels.