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It feels more like a marketing gimmick at this point. Most people can’t tell the difference with all these marginal display improvements. Side by side, you’ll sometimes notice some improvements, but in most everyday use, not much.
Nope, TN, IPS, P3 IPS, Retina display, OLED, XDR, they are all significant.
 
One would like to think so but my old 10.5" iPad Pro and 15" Retina MacBook Pro both disagree. The former had backlight bloom above the home button, and the MacBook had both awful image retention and several stuck & dead pixels after one year of use. Both documented problems. I'm not saying Apple are any worse than anyone else but when you take off the rose tinted Apple Glasses, their track record with displays in their devices is inconsistent at best. Certainly not an outstanding history of being extra careful.

backlight bloom above the home button

I don’t understand why this is the case. Also, why Apple didn’t start a repair program for this?
 
I'm not sure if OLED is fine for MacBook series. Yes, the first iPhone with OLED which is iPhone X is still fine as I've been using since day 1 but it has burn-in on battery logo. The problem is Mac is not iPhone or iPad. They have fixed UI which is a huge problem. Eventually, they will suffer burn-in issue such as color accuracy, uniformity, brightness, and more. I heard that Apple requested to Samsung to develop double layer OLED which extend its life cycle but still, OLED isn't really for professional uses. I dont mind if it used for other Macs but def not MacBook Pro, iMac, and more. OLED is not proven for pro uses especially on laptop/desktop. Pro LED/LCD display such as Eizo has 5 years of quality warranty which OLED can not do. OLED should at least provide no burn-in for at least 5 years. Then, it shouldn't be a problem but I don't think it's possible unless they make something thick OLED panels for long uses.
 
The difference between OLED and mini-LED is extremely obvious in a darkened room. Where it is much less obvious is in a bright room. And in fact, in a bright room, mini-LED is sometimes superior.

IOW, it depends on your use case and preferences.
Right, so basically what I said… “in most everyday use” which for the vast majority of computer users is in normal to bright lighting conditions. And even in the dark, unless the monitors are side by side, the vast majority of users won’t notice (or care) that the blacks aren’t blacker.
 
Right, so basically what I said… “in most everyday use” which for the vast majority of computer users is in normal to bright lighting conditions. And even in the dark, unless the monitors are side by side, the vast majority of users won’t notice (or care) that the blacks aren’t blacker.
No, you're selectively ignoring what you want ignore, for the sake of your argument. If you use it at night, with dim background lighting (eg. on the couch with only accent lighting in the background, or in bed), the difference is instantly obvious. You don't need side-by-side comparisons at all. It's a totally different experience.

Now it's true that if you've never experienced this before, you may not care, but once you're used to OLED blacks, for many people it's very difficult to accept anything else. That's why OLED TVs are popular, despite costing 40% more than FALD TVs.
 
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So all we Mini Led Macbook owners will be left to fend for ourselves like orphans then?
Apple needs to avoid releasing such premium products with stop-gap technologies.

This reminds me of the time I bought that cursed iPad 3 in March 2012.
What, the iPad that brought the Retina display?
 
Apple’s use of low frequency PWM on the iPhones have kind of ruined OLED for me. Combined with problems with long term stability (color accuracy, burn-in, etc), I am pretty weary of using a MacBook with OLED. Certainly won’t be an early adopter with this one.
 
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We may not even get an OLED iPad. Especially now with micro LED technology so rapidly advancing.
There is zero chance we will have microLED tablets in two years. The technology just isn't there yet, and won't be for quite some time. Let's just hope that microLED isn't the next SED.
 
No, you're selectively ignoring what you want ignore, for the sake of your argument. If you use it at night, with dim background lighting (eg. on the couch with only accent lighting in the background, or in bed), the difference is instantly obvious. You don't need side-by-side comparisons at all. It's a totally different experience.

Now it's true that if you've never experienced this before, you may not care, but once you're used to OLED blacks, for many people it's very difficult to accept anything else. That's why OLED TVs are popular, despite costing 40% more than FALD TVs.
You’re projecting. A totally different experience for you, maybe. I owned the first iPhone with an OLED display. I was not blown away… at all. In fact, I was disappointed with the poor off-screen viewing angle and the bluish tint every time I tilted the phone… but I got used to it. And the only way to notice the deeper blacks was to hold it next to my previous iPhone.

I suggest you watch reviews of Apple’s Studio Display vs XDR or even Max Tech’s review of MBA vs MBP and in almost all those reviews, they’ll say the same thing I’m saying… the deeper blacks are nice but it’s not worth the additional cost unless you absolutely need it, and not something most people will notice in normal usage unless the displays are side by side.
 
You’re projecting. A totally different experience for you, maybe. I owned the first iPhone with an OLED display. I was not blown away… at all. In fact, I was disappointed with the poor off-screen viewing angle and the bluish tint every time I tilted the phone… but I got used to it. And the only way to notice the deeper blacks was to hold it next to my previous iPhone.

I suggest you watch reviews of Apple’s Studio Display vs XDR or even Max Tech’s review of MBA vs MBP and in almost all those reviews, they’ll say the same thing I’m saying… the deeper blacks are nice but it’s not worth the additional cost unless you absolutely need it, and not something most people will notice in normal usage unless the displays are side by side.
It should be noted that the iPhone uses a grey background for much of their dark theme. Dark grey, but grey nonetheless. In that regard it's similar to an LCD iPhone. Also, an iPhone is not ideal for video watching, but if you do in a dim room with content with proper blacks, the difference is very easily noticeable. It's virtually unnoticeable during the day however, as I've mentioned before. I can confidently say this since we own both OLED and LCD iPhones.

I have an iMac 5K. Neither the XDR nor the MBP are OLED. OLED is light years nicer for viewing video in a room with dim lighting than the iMac 5K.

But do I want OLED for my iMac? No, not really, since I don't generally use it that way. However, I definitely do want it in an iPad.
 
Didn't Samsung show a large-screen micro LED panel at least a year ago?
Yeah, as in 110" at 4K for US$156000. o_O And the smallest they might get to is 76" next year for TVs.

It seems they are having problems increasing the pixel density cost effectively.
 
I'm happy with my Micro LED MBP 16"

OLED will be a nice to have, but not neccessary.
 
I have a new LG OLED 65 inch TV that fairly quickly developed burn in from "normal" use.

One channel in particular that I watch 50% of the time the TV is on has a logo on the bottom corner of the screen and over time, the ghost of that logo is now seen permanently.

I was initially stunned that this happened with "normal" viewing without "pausing" the TV endlessly, however, when I Googled "{channel name} OLED screen burn in", I found quite a few hits from many others that have experienced this same "normal use" side effect. Even the breaks for commercials and menus did not prevent this from happening.

Guess I need to vary my channels. Or get outside more often.
 
Didn't Samsung show a large-screen micro LED panel at least a year ago?

Which has nothing to do with screens on iPhones or tablets/macs

It certainly will not be available on the volume apple would need.

The fact oled for iPads is two years away says everything you need to know how long micro will be.
 
One would like to think so but my old 10.5" iPad Pro and 15" Retina MacBook Pro both disagree. The former had backlight bloom above the home button, and the MacBook had both awful image retention and several stuck & dead pixels after one year of use. Both documented problems. I'm not saying Apple are any worse than anyone else but when you take off the rose tinted Apple Glasses, their track record with displays in their devices is inconsistent at best. Certainly not an outstanding history of being extra careful.
Backlight problems, dead pixels, etc those issues aside as far as image quality ie Color accuracy, Apple hands down always had the best

OLED was in phones for years before Apple finally dived in, and they pushed the envelope unlike any others and then everyone had to catch on

So if we’re talking about developing the perfect display image quality wise Apple is extra careful, as far as manufacturing issues the small number that happen is a different argument
 
Backlight problems, dead pixels, etc those issues aside as far as image quality ie Color accuracy, Apple hands down always had the best

OLED was in phones for years before Apple finally dived in, and they pushed the envelope unlike any others and then everyone had to catch on

So if we’re talking about developing the perfect display image quality wise Apple is extra careful, as far as manufacturing issues the small number that happen is a different argument
While quality was important, one of the biggest reasons Apple didn’t go OLED earlier was volume. It was very difficult to create that level quality at those volumes for a reasonable price.
 
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