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I don't get the part about how it's just those other two characters combined - it's clearly not the same eye. Can someone enlighten me, as I don't' see how anybody looking at it could possibly mistake it for the same image.
 
When I was younger bullying was when you got your rear kicked every other day. It seems like these days it seems to be if someone is belittling someone else. Has the definition expanded with the current generation?
Yeah, I've actually rarely heard of bullies who beat you up. Is that really how it was? Typically, they'll call you gay or something or spread rumors about you. If the definition didn't include this kind of harassment, it does now.
 
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That is a really good idea!

A friend was in an abusive relationship for years. I sought help from professionals, internet folk, other friends who had escaped abusive relationships. The one thing they all said was bullies, abusers, etc all hate being watched. I think a little symbol that shows people are watching is a neat step forward.
 
Sure. There was CompuServe, Prodigy and AOL in the mid to late 90s. And you could use that as a teaching lesson. People grow tired and move on. Or just turn your Twitter off and it will blow over. Like everything does.
Ah I see, it's the victim that needs to change.

What are your opinions on rape victims btw?
 
I don't get the part about how it's just those other two characters combined - it's clearly not the same eye. Can someone enlighten me, as I don't' see how anybody looking at it could possibly mistake it for the same image.

When they talk about combining, they actually mean combining the codes. They combine the code for the eye and the speech bubble, and when the OS sees those two codes, it draws this new emoji. I understand why the description is confusing, but it isn't the drawings that are combined, just the way they are written in underlying codes.

I hope that makes sense.
 
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It has, my daughters come to me saying they were bullied and I ask how, and one of them said so and so told her she was ugly, or what ever.

I didn't minimize or marginalize the issue but that's not bullying - at least as I remembered.

I've told my daughters if anyone puts their hand on them, hits/kicks/etc. Kick them in the groin - that will stop them in their tracks. Don't go running to a teacher or anything just clock them.
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I gave my three daughters the same advice starting from the older one about 10 years ago. Maybe it's worthless with really dangerous people in real life, but it definitively works with all the wannabe-bullies as a reminder for a proper respect to every single person
 
Seriously? There are people who don't understand what this means? It's saying to the bully "I see what you are doing" so they shouldn't think that they can get away with hurtful speech like that. A lot of times people think that they can get away with this type of talk because they feel anonymous on the Internet. They feel safe behind the computer saying things they would never say in real life. The Seeing Eye takes away that anonymity, hopefully encouraging more civil behavior.
Well then instead of an emoji that actually has some creepy connotations to it, why doesn't one just say in plain English "I see what you're doing, stop taking your insecurities out on other people." What's with all this hieroglyphics crap? Don't people actually read, write, and talk anymore?

As for kids killing themselves over being bullied, that indicates a failure of the adults to get the child out into the world to get some perspective. So that they can see their own value, their own self worth, and just how their own personal problems can recede when they see how big the world really is. Volunteer to raise funds for a child fighting pediatric cancer, for example.

Our family befriended two families whose children are battling this horrible disease and have participated in the fund raising efforts for one of the families. If being a part of something like this doesn't teach your child what real troubles and suffering are, what their value is in doing some good in this world, I don't know what will. I know this isn't a complete cure all for the pervasiveness of bullying but it is something that will help people see they are worth more than the value some a-hats try place on them.

When some boy started in on making fun of my daughter's curly hair and adolescent acne, I asked her how this was making her feel. She shrugged and said compared to what our two friends with cancer are going through it's not worth worrying about. She said nearly everyone is going to have a few spots now and again and she's too busy to worry about hair or what some stupid kid whose own looks are nothing to brag about thinks or says about it. Since he couldn't get to her, he's given up and moving on to doing other stupid things as bullies often do.

I told her a long time ago when she was still practically a toddler that bullies do what they do out of a mix of insecurity and ignorance. We have talked about the subject a lot.
 
A friend was in an abusive relationship for years. I sought help from professionals, internet folk, other friends who had escaped abusive relationships. The one thing they all said was bullies, abusers, etc all hate being watched.

So much for the opinions of "professionals" when they ignore the obvious. Bullies live to dominate others and quickly learn that picking on a weakling draws the born followers under their influence. Rather than shunning "being watched", they glory in it.
 
That is a really good idea!

A friend was in an abusive relationship for years. I sought help from professionals, internet folk, other friends who had escaped abusive relationships. The one thing they all said was bullies, abusers, etc all hate being watched. I think a little symbol that shows people are watching is a neat step forward.

Yeah, that's a deterrent. :rolleyes:

If kids want to stop someone from bullying them, they just need to walk up to the bully and punch them in the face. End of bullying. If they are especially stupid and need a reminder, punch them again. Worked when I was a kid.

If you're in an abusive relationship, you leave. Why do people make things so complicated?
 
It's really great that things worked out for you! What about those who don't quite meet your abilities?
What does that mean? The post you quoted was extremely sensible and based on real life experience which I, as someone who had cystic acne and was of mixed race in an era when that wasn't accepted can attest to. I learned to sort out friend from foe early on, hold my head high and get on with life and find what I was good at and could legitimately be proud of. I learned there's no real shame in things you can't control and the only thing one should be ashamed of is one's own harmful actions and reactions.

Life is not kind or fair. Adults trying to make it so during the growing up years turn out adults who can't cope with not just harsh realities, but any realities. My husband and other managers I know are having a devil of a time getting any kind of harmony, use or productivity out of too many of the so-called millennials or people of other generations who share the same mindset. These are people who shut down and do no work if their environment does not yield to their every expectation. They can't discern needs from wants. And anything that remotely displeases them becomes an offense to be taken to HR because they're feeling victimized...by such things as getting a negative performance review when they refuse to keep normal expected work hours and to actually do work when they bother to be present at all! Or being denied a request for a raise or promotion when they've only been on the job 9 months. Sheesh.

It was not like this 15 years ago. It starting building momentum in the past ten years with the new hires.
 
Yeah, I've actually rarely heard of bullies who beat you up. Is that really how it was? Typically, they'll call you gay or something or spread rumors about you. If the definition didn't include this kind of harassment, it does now.
Yeah, during physical education and recess it was a basically a free-for-all. Sometimes during lunch, too. Though the one fight where I actually ended up with a broken bone took place during class. I have no idea where the teacher was. It was the 1970's. Adults weren't really worth a crap in the 1970's. The parents were always off doing their own thing and teachers would actually disappear from the classroom and we had no idea where they went. Probably to smoke a cigarette in the teacher's lounge.

As for my fight, even though I lost because I got a bone broken in the first second of the fight because he took a cheap shot before I was even fully stood up, it was actually pretty great for me because I stood up to the meanest toughest guy in school and he had been bullying everyone. I was the only kid, boy or girl, willing to try to take him on. And I was a girl and one of the smaller girls, too. He was actually small, too, but fierce. I didn't even tell the teacher I was injured and just got on with things, so that cemented my reputation as a tough girl not to be messed with. And everyone grouped together and stood up in his face and told them what a coward they thought he was for attacking a girl with a cheap shot. He lost pretty much any cred he had up to that point.
 
I have never once resorted to physical violence to get to the position in life or work that I am now. I thought we were trying to be better than that?
Uh, I have not known of anyone in this day and age to have resorted to physical violence for any position in life or work (gang initiations/drug cartels/organized crime notwithstanding). And then you have the professional fighters...and then there's fight club, but nobody really talks about that...but, yeah...really..."physical violence to get to the position in life or work"???

Umm, yeah, there's a management position opening, if you want to move up from sandwich artist, you are going to have to fight Eddie "Bone Crusher" from the cash register. Are you up for it?
 
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How to use the eye:

Now when you see bullying, you can do something about it.

Oh, I see, so before apple brought us this emoji, we couldn't do anything about bullying. Now, finally when we see bulling, we can do something about it with this silly little icon. Before, all we could do was wring our hands in despair and wish somebody would stop the bullying.

But now we finally have a weapon. Your evil offensive posts are no match for my mighty eye logo. Tim Cook deserves a Nobel Peace Prize for taking this step. This eye icon spells the end for bullies.

No wonder the average person likes to beat up tech geeks.
 
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Yeah, I've actually rarely heard of bullies who beat you up. Is that really how it was? Typically, they'll call you gay or something or spread rumors about you. If the definition didn't include this kind of harassment, it does now.

Yes, that is how it was back then. We also got called names and rumors were spread about us, but we didn't really care about that. We basically went on with a "whatever", and lived our lives. I am actually the better for it. The younger group that has come into the work pool is having a hard time adjusting in part because they have not learned how to handle things on their own. They all think they have the right to never be offended, or have their feelings hurt. They come to me like I am supposed to be their dad. To top it off they seem not to be able to handle the stress. I am thankful my father taught me how to stick up for myself, and looking back on it I am so glad he told me to toughen up (man up) when I was younger.

I think the next emoji should be the "toughen up" emoji. When someone texts me crying about being offended, I can send the "toughen up" emoji.
 
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Yeah, that's a deterrent. :rolleyes:

If kids want to stop someone from bullying them, they just need to walk up to the bully and punch them in the face. End of bullying. If they are especially stupid and need a reminder, punch them again. Worked when I was a kid.

If you're in an abusive relationship, you leave. Why do people make things so complicated?
You've solved all abusive relationships - just walk away. Congrats. It must always be that easy.
 
So much for the opinions of "professionals" when they ignore the obvious. Bullies live to dominate others and quickly learn that picking on a weakling draws the born followers under their influence. Rather than shunning "being watched", they glory in it.
Maybe some do. Once we let the abusive partner know us (her friends) were watching closely he stopped and eventually broke down and got arrested. I've seen the "abusers hate being watched, so watch them closely" thing work in both the times I've seen a friend in that situation.
 
Seriously? There are people who don't understand what this means? It's saying to the bully "I see what you are doing" so they shouldn't think that they can get away with hurtful speech like that. A lot of times people think that they can get away with this type of talk because they feel anonymous on the Internet. They feel safe behind the computer saying things they would never say in real life. The Seeing Eye takes away that anonymity, hopefully encouraging more civil behavior.
Really, I don't know how many people are going to get it. If you saw that without reading an article about it, what would you think it is? If anyone ever sends this emoji, it'll mean something else. If Ad Council tells everyone what this emoji means, it'll end up being sent as a joke. It looks like Ad Council tried to hop on another trend to look hip to the youngsters on the cyberspace, like what they did with their "smokers be like" ads.

You can tell the bully "I see what you're doing" (I wouldn't be so polite), tell your friends, or fight back. There's no way anyone is going to take an emoji seriously. Heck, they probably won't take words seriously either. Best way to deal with them is to not acknowledge that you're being bullied.
 
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if youre trying to use emojis to get out of bullying you really havent got it figured out.

Sadly that is the truth. For a genuine case of bullying it sounds like "oh yeah, well I'll get my big brother to beat you up" would have sounded 30 years ago in my childhood. Basically using the threat of authority. It does nothing for helping somebody stand on their own two feet.

For other cases it just seems like a way to kill dialog. "well I don't like what you're saying and have no counterargument so I'll accuse you of bullying to shut you up."
 
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