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Apple Sweeps Consumer Reports' Laptop Recommendations
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Oh so this forum isn't a third party site that has no official connection to Apple? Oh wait never mind it is. Maybe they should be complaining to Apple then, not the members of a third party forum. But sure, go ahead and keep rationalizing.
I'm sure Apple pours over all of our submissions to their feedback forms. I don't see much of a reason to rise to the defense of Apple here every time someone has a criticism or complaint.
If I'm unhappy I'll submit feedback to Apple and vote with my wallet.
And I don't see the reason to complain to people who don't work for Apple. If I don't like something about my Honda I don't go complain to other Honda owners and think it's going to get fixed. See how stupid that logic is? (It's probably foolish of me to think that you do) Like I said, talk to Apple.
In case you don't know, here's the address and number:
1 Infinite Loop
Cupertino, CA 95014
408.996.1010
You're walking down a very messy path there.
If it bothers you so much the forum does have perfectly good options to ignore users if you wish to do so. I don't see a reason to use the ignore list though.
Messy path? How so?
Even if I ignored people, 90% of the conversation that goes on in threads like this are from, in response to, or about the Mac bashers, so the thread wouldn't make any sense to me and I'd see their quotes in posts anyway.
Indeed. This whole debate has been going on for hours. I had the Forum Spy running in the background whilst sculpting in Zbrush working a new model. (On a 2008 MBP I might add.. who says they aren't capable of doing 3D on a professional level??)
During the several hours they went at it, writing dozens upon dozens of posts trying to discredit Apple on it's pricing, it's defects, etc. I nearly got the model done and ready for sending off to the client. The money I'll have made from those hours spent sculpting (rather than forum trolling) easily covers the "Apple-tax" they always bring up. But best of all, I had fun doing the work and will have something positive to show for it. (A One-Up for my portfolio). One has to wonder if their exertions will have been equally rewarding...
During the several hours they went at it, writing dozens upon dozens of posts trying to discredit Apple on it's pricing, it's defects, etc. I nearly got the model done and ready for sending off to the client. The money I'll have made from those hours spent sculpting (rather than forum trolling) easily covers the "Apple-tax" they always bring up. But best of all, I had fun doing the work and will have something positive to show for it. (A One-Up for my portfolio). One has to wonder if their exertions will have been equally rewarding...
Indeed. This whole debate has been going on for hours. I had the Forum Spy running in the background whilst sculpting in Zbrush working a new model. (On a 2008 MBP I might add.. who says they aren't capable of doing 3D on a professional level??)
During the several hours they went at it, writing dozens upon dozens of posts trying to discredit Apple on it's pricing, it's defects, etc. I nearly got the model done and ready for sending off to the client. The money I'll have made from those hours spent sculpting (rather than forum trolling) easily covers the "Apple-tax" they always bring up. But best of all, I had fun doing the work and will have something positive to show for it. (A One-Up for my portfolio). One has to wonder if their exertions will have been equally rewarding...
Omg I forgot Z Brush is out for mac! I remember seeing LAST summer it was to be coming out.
I think I found my next purchase
It'll be like me and Corel Painter though. I have no talent in it what so ever but I have a blast using it!
Sadly, a Web browser is the only thing their Dells are able to run while their Windows systems are running their hourly spyware and virus scans. Hence, here they are. And what better way to soothe their own angst than to torment Mac users who don't share their misery?
So much for productivity - been there, so done with that.Sadly, a Web browser is the only thing their Dells are able to run while their Windows systems are running their hourly spyware and virus scans. Hence, here they are. And what better way to soothe their own angst than to torment Mac users who don't share their misery?
I have a feeling they're here on their Macs.Sadly, a Web browser is the only thing their Dells are able to run while their Windows systems are running their hourly spyware and virus scans. Hence, here they are. And what better way to soothe their own angst than to torment Mac users who don't share their misery?
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I'll have to get back to you, regarding that.
I disagree. Macbook displays are NOT best in class. Cheaper PC laptops have better screens than Macbook.
Macbooks lack....
Firewire
More than one useable USB port (try putting in a mouse. OK - now put in a data stick.....oh, wait, there isn't any room)
Reliable Wifi (a world of pain at home for the last two weeks)
Reliable Video Out (dual link DVI adaptor requires shift-ctrl-eject to reset displays every few minutes)
Audio out that doesn't hiss.
A price tag suitable for its specification. (about a third less than what it cost)
What Macbooks are, are the best 13" laptop that reliably runs OSX.
Obviously it is bad that the Aluminum MBs don't have firewire 400 (the White still does). However, the USB on the machine is not that slow. The CPU also plays into the picture during USB backups so it's not bad compared to F400. I've used F400 for backups on old machines and it can be extremely slow.
How can't you get a mouse and flash drive at the same time? Oversized flash drive? Anyway, bluetooth is there for a reason too. With such a great trackpad why use a mouse? You lose the whole functionality of the multi-touch trackpad. As for flash, why do you need to have it plugged in all the time?
The Wifi has worked fine for me since October.
How can't you get a mouse and flash drive at the same time? Oversized flash drive? Anyway, bluetooth is there for a reason too. With such a great trackpad why use a mouse? You lose the whole functionality of the multi-touch trackpad. As for flash, why do you need to have it plugged in all the time?
The Wifi has worked fine for me since October.
Editing on a PC???
MASSIVE LOL @ any filmmaker that thinks he can buy a PC off the street and edit on it!!!
I'm a filmmaker ---- and I don't wanna sound snobby, but until Final Cut Pro/Edit DV, the only way to edit on a computer was to buy a system for around $15,000
while PC's are heavily used out here in Hollywood, there is NO WAY you can edit with them unless you load them up with a BOAT-LOAD of RAM, and then purchase thousands on AVID editing software
good luck with the bundled editing programs on a PC!
for the budget filmmaker, an iMac with FCP is going to be the best bargain in town -- and MASSIVE kudos to Steve Jobs and Apple for making quality video editing so affordable
MASSIVE LOL @ any filmmaker that thinks he can buy a PC off the street and edit on it!!!
I'm a filmmaker ---- and I don't wanna sound snobby, but until Final Cut Pro/Edit DV, the only way to edit on a computer was to buy a system for around $15,000
while PC's are heavily used out here in Hollywood, there is NO WAY you can edit with them unless you load them up with a BOAT-LOAD of RAM, and then purchase thousands on AVID editing software
good luck with the bundled editing programs on a PC!
for the budget filmmaker, an iMac with FCP is going to be the best bargain in town -- and MASSIVE kudos to Steve Jobs and Apple for making quality video editing so affordable
This is a lie. A £300 PC with £50 of Premiere Elements can edit perfectly well. Come on - at least base your criticism on facts.
IN that case - why bother with two USB ports at all then eh? (indeed - if you're using the DL DVI adaptor - you do only have one USB port. PLug in a Mouse...Oh - where does my flash drive / external HDD / card reader go.
Sorry - this is just making excuses for a real crappy design decision by Apple.
Yes, this is a highly significant development, something I never thought I'd see in my lifetime. I'd always assumed Apple wasn't that much of a threat to them.
Does anyone know if they also target non-Apple specific forums? Because I can't for the life of me work out why they're so active here, since the vast majority of people have already made their decision and bought Macs - surely it's too late for any trolling to be effective?
I'm assuming the objective is to cut off the flow of disillusioned Windows users from switching to Mac, in which case it occurs to me that their efforts might be more effective if they concentrated on people who haven't yet migrated?
I've had six Macs, three desktops and three laptops. Every single one has had either hard or optical drive failure or both. In the case of my MacMini it's had three failures in total.
However I've found the solution, a cheapo Asus eeePC. Zero problems since I bought it over a year ago
However I've found the solution, a cheapo Asus eeePC. Zero problems since I bought it over a year ago
Desperate times call for desperate measures, and desperate they have become - good luck with that, I say.Yes, this is a highly significant development, something I never thought I'd see in my lifetime. I'd always assumed Apple wasn't that much of a threat to them.
Does anyone know if they also target non-Apple specific forums? Because I can't for the life of me work out why they're so active here, since the vast majority of people have already made their decision and bought Macs - surely it's too late for any trolling to be effective?
I'm assuming the objective is to cut off the flow of disillusioned Windows users from switching to Mac, in which case it occurs to me that their efforts might be more effective if they concentrated on people who haven't yet migrated?
I'm assuming the objective is to cut off the flow of disillusioned Windows users from switching to Mac, in which case it occurs to me that their efforts might be more effective if they concentrated on people who haven't yet migrated?
I doubt it. What's far more likely is that as Apple has become more popular it has atracted customers with differing expectations. Whereas previously Apple purchasers tended to be a fairly staunch lot in terms of product loyalty there are now a range of people who judge products based on what's best for them. In some case that will be Apple's product, in others a competitor's.
This isn't trolling; it's merely difference of opinion. For example, I wouldn't buy a non-Apple laptop at the moment because I believe the Macbook to be a superior option in terms of build quality, aesthetics and functionality. However, I wouldn't buy an Apple desktop as I believe them to be a poor option in terms of what's available from other maunfacturers.
Operating system wise I would say that I've noticed little difference in terms of performance and stability between Vista SP1 and OS X 10.5.6. Both perform perfectly well and both have their irritations.
Sorry to hear that. In my last six Macs I've suffered one logic board problem which caused a firewire port to stop working (swiftly replaced) in a brand new G5, other than that I've had a trouble free Mac life.
Yeah but even if the customer profile has changed a little, surely the vast majority of them are on here discussing Macs because they've already bought one? In which case, I'm wondering how will they be effective targets for the PR.
I know there are some people like you, who can participate in a debate from a fairly neutral standpoint, but this isn't about those people. Surely it is trolling (or deliberate PR or whatever) if a person comes on here for the sole purpose of spreading negative publicity about the Mac platform? Especially if that person doesn't even own a Mac, as some of them don't.
I mean, you and I can talk about the good and bad of owning a Mac, because we use them every day. But there are clearly some people in these discussions who don't have any intention of ever owning one and don't have a single good word to say about Apple. There can only be one reason why they are here.