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Apple swindler

I was at an Apple Store today picking up a Mac that needed fixing. While I was waiting for them to bring it out, I overheard a conversation between an Apple "Genius" and an elderly man who was buying an iPhone for the first time. He said his old phone that he had for 10 years broke, and he wanted to buy an iPhone to do FaceTime with his grandkids. The guy was unsure about most of the features and generally unfamiliar with the iPhone. The genius asked him if he takes any pictures, watches movies, or plays games and he said no. The genius then asked him how many people he plans on calling on it. I wondered why this made a difference so I listened closely while standing nearby to hear the explanation. The old man said about 10 people, and the genius told him that to fit 10 phone numbers he would need to buy the 64 GB. He was hesitant but said ok and the genius walked off smiling. When he came out with the iPhone he whispered to his buddy who laughed, I'm assuming he told him what he did although I couldn't hear. I felt like explaining to the man how he just got swindled while the guy was in the back but I did not want to implicated in the whole thing, but I regret not saying anything now. I am going to question the next Apple purchase I make. This is appalling.

I would have walked right up to that old guy and say " excuse me sir that apple has a huge worm in it"
I would not have let him get swindled like that. I think as a Nation we have the moral right to step in where we see injustice. That sales rep was nothing short of a vulture to take advantage of this fellow.
 
Still doesn't make it right. He probably checked with his kids, and they said go to apple, they won't rip you off. He apparently blew more bucks than he needed but perhaps it didn't bother him.

Cheers!

With the kind of luck I have, the guy would walk up with the phone right when I tell him, or he would say "That guy there told me." I did not want to be in the middle of it, but in hindsight, the guy took all day to get the phone and I could have told him. I wish I did now that I think of it.
Would have saved him $200. Poor guy :/
 
I doubt the OP's story actually happened, but I unknowingly watched a customer at my local Microcenter get swindled and again, unknowingly put an end to it. I was there right after Apple came out with the 21.5" and 27" iMacs. A middle aged woman was buying a 24" iMac. I said to her "oh did you get a discount on that because the new models just came out?" Her eyes got wide and said "no..." And the man who helped her with her sale was standing right next to her. He did not look happy at all.
 
Apple Swindling

I doubt the OP's story actually happened, but I unknowingly watched a customer at my local Microcenter get swindled and again, unknowingly put an end to it. I was there right after Apple came out with the 21.5" and 27" iMacs. A middle aged woman was buying a 24" iMac. I said to her "oh did you get a discount on that because the new models just came out?" Her eyes got wide and said "no..." And the man who helped her with her sale was standing right next to her. He did not look happy at all.

Good show man. I bet she was real happy to hear that. You never know you might meet her sometime in the future and she might just be the one to do you a huge favor.
 
While Apple is a reputable company, it does not mean that everyone working there has the same integrity. Shameful without doubt. However not representative of Apples standards. Theres an idiot in every crowd.......usually more than one.
 
I was at an Apple Store today picking up a Mac that needed fixing. While I was waiting for them to bring it out, I overheard a conversation between an Apple "Genius" and an elderly man who was buying an iPhone for the first time. He said his old phone that he had for 10 years broke, and he wanted to buy an iPhone to do FaceTime with his grandkids. The guy was unsure about most of the features and generally unfamiliar with the iPhone. The genius asked him if he takes any pictures, watches movies, or plays games and he said no. The genius then asked him how many people he plans on calling on it. I wondered why this made a difference so I listened closely while standing nearby to hear the explanation. The old man said about 10 people, and the genius told him that to fit 10 phone numbers he would need to buy the 64 GB. He was hesitant but said ok and the genius walked off smiling. When he came out with the iPhone he whispered to his buddy who laughed, I'm assuming he told him what he did although I couldn't hear. I felt like explaining to the man how he just got swindled while the guy was in the back but I did not want to implicated in the whole thing, but I regret not saying anything now. I am going to question the next Apple purchase I make. This is appalling.

I can see it now! New episode of "What Would You Do?" with John Quinones.
 
I doubt the OP's story actually happened, but I unknowingly watched a customer at my local Microcenter get swindled and again, unknowingly put an end to it. I was there right after Apple came out with the 21.5" and 27" iMacs. A middle aged woman was buying a 24" iMac. I said to her "oh did you get a discount on that because the new models just came out?" Her eyes got wide and said "no..." And the man who helped her with her sale was standing right next to her. He did not look happy at all.

I believe the OP but doubt your story happened. LOL Just messin!
 
That's not what he's saying. At least not to me.

But in reality, Apple themselves, do not have the responsibility. The individual store managers and HR reps have that responsibility. Apple, Inc. cannot control how each retail store employee acts. It has to be on the individual stores to police their own employees.

If you go to buy something with no knowledge, you run the risk of being taken advantage of. It's just a sad fact of sales. But again, the OP could have helped this situation but chose not too and instead decided to come here and complain about what he saw. Now this particular employee will have another opportunity to do the same thing to another customer.

Apple is responsible for its workers...
 
Apple? No I don't see Apple swindling anyone.

Just an asshat employee taking advantage of an uninformed customer.

Happens everyday.
That employee represents Apple, therefore Apple did the swindling. Apple is slowly, but surely, coming back down to earth. It's still going to take another 5 years or so, but eventually this company is going to fall back to the way it was during the interim of Steve Jobs' tenures at Apple. The company has basically never been successful without Jobs and I am seeing no reason why this will be any different.
 
That employee represents Apple, therefore Apple did the swindling. Apple is slowly, but surely, coming back down to earth. It's still going to take another 5 years or so, but eventually this company is going to fall back to the way it was during the interim of Steve Jobs' tenures at Apple. The company has basically never been successful without Jobs and I am seeing no reason why this will be any different.

He represents Apple, but he is not Apple. The executive team did not instruct it's retail store employees to take advantage of ill informed elderly customers. This guy probably worked at some other electronic store and pulled the same crap.

Again, if any of this even happened at all.
 
That employee represents Apple, therefore Apple did the swindling. Apple is slowly, but surely, coming back down to earth. It's still going to take another 5 years or so, but eventually this company is going to fall back to the way it was during the interim of Steve Jobs' tenures at Apple. The company has basically never been successful without Jobs and I am seeing no reason why this will be any different.

Like many people have said, this story seems rather far-fetched. Even the less technically literate would have the common sense to realize you don't need to pay $200 more to store 10 phone numbers; if his old POS phone could do it, why would he believe he needed the upgrade on the iPhone? Besides, if this story were true, the OP is just as complicit for not saying anything. I know for sure I would have stepped in and intervened. I could not care less what a punk low-level employee thinks about me, but I do care about innocent consumers being cheated.
 
Even if OP never saw this happen, it's a good story nonetheless, except for the part about attaching a company name to something that didn't happen. It's better than the diamond chest story anyway, although it's unrealistic that a technician would make such a recommendation, let alone take pride in it in the presence of the customers.
 
I don't think it ever happened either, for more than one reason, though if it had, there's no excuse for the appalling behavior.

Yes, salesmen get paid to sell things. Though spewing blatant BS at customers to get a sale is NOT excusable, not even from a corporation aspect, it severely damages the reputation of the company, once such reports start making the round on a wider scale (which, of course, they would, if more Apple sales representatives acted like the fictional one in OP's story...) this would have a negative impact on Apple's image, and could quite possibly end up losing them money as well as trust, seeing as the stock markets may react. It's even less excusable when the company has an excellent sales reputation and prides itself on customer satisfaction, like Apple does. I'm also pretty sure they don't tell their reps to go spreading FUD, so the guy (if he was real) would also have breached the trust that Apple has bestowed on him as a sales representative for them, by acting that way, quite possibly even have been breaching his contract. They're not a used car chain, or some shady corner store or flea market retailer, ffs. Don't know why there's people here apologizing the rep's behavior... sales representatives like that DAMAGE Apple, nobody's protecting Apple by apologizing such behavior (if and where it does happen).
 
That employee represents Apple, therefore Apple did the swindling...

That doesn't make sense to me. Say if there was an American who went to Germany and stole a wallet from a tourist there, does that mean America stole the wallet?

There is absolutely no interviewing, hiring, training process that a company can possibly do to be absolutely sure that the scenario posted by OP does not happen.

I am not debating whether OP's story ever happened because there is no way for me to prove or disprove it, but what I think is that the subject line is absolutely wrong. An action of an employee doesn't equate that of a company unless the company condones it.
 
Apple in Cupertino is not responsible for it retail store employees on that low of level. The retail store manager of that particular store is.

The retail manager works for apple...

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That doesn't make sense to me. Say if there was an American who went to Germany and stole a wallet from a tourist there, does that mean America stole the wallet?

There is absolutely no interviewing, hiring, training process that a company can possibly do to be absolutely sure that the scenario posted by OP does not happen.

I am not debating whether OP's story ever happened because there is no way for me to prove or disprove it, but what I think is that the subject line is absolutely wrong. An action of an employee doesn't equate that of a company unless the company condones it.

It's apples fault if an apple employee breaks ur iPhone apple picks up the tab
 
Caveat emptor.

If you shop unarmed or have no knowledge of what you're shopping for -- it's on you.

I'm not condoning the behavior, but . . .

Not sure what the confusion is. A trained staff member has wilfully mislead a customer. He in all likelihood has probably also broken the law in the process, given his trusted position in this specific context (deceptive selling practices).

I can't see how the older gentleman has done anything wrong if the circumstances hold true. This is coming from a staunch advocator of personal responsibility and freedom of will.
 
I can see it now! New episode of "What Would You Do?" with John Quinones.
When he walks up to people after the "prank," they always recognize him! Like "oh my god, of course I know who you are!" What is he from? How does everyone know who he is? If he walked up to me, I'd seriously have no clue.

Edit: Decided to Google him instead. Yeah, I guess I've seen his face on the news, but still, I'd have no clue tbh.
 
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