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Apple Tablet Media Event Today: 'Come See Our Latest Creation'
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I agree but suspect that some of items such as a camera WILL be included in the final product which ships in a few months and certainly in the first upgrade (which Apple is notorious in doing). I think that it was somewhat rushed as it is apparent that numerous other companies are poised to release their tablet and to wait would have been a mistake. I believe the design allows Apple to add everything from magic mouse features to the back, touch areas to the edge bezel, slim it down, add multi-tasking, and with software handwriting / speech recognition. Just wait. Also can someone explain - if I put an ipad with wifi and 3G would it be possible to stream internet to my other wifi devices and have full internet access for all my other computers for $30 month?
People who are buying for what it is, period. It meets their need as it is. If you want more then wait, that's all, or buy something else, or stick with your 3.5-inch screen if it already meets your needs.
I do not want to be reading my books in a tiny screen like the iPhone/iPod Touch no more than you want to do computing in an iPad, because it's an enlarged version of whatever... So Apple listened to you already, and delivered, back in 2007. Now they have listened to people like me, in 2010 and I believe they have delivered. Sounds fair to me.
And one more thing, ANYTHING that Apple makes that could be held in the palm of your hand(s) and be carried around in your bag or pocket WILL BE SOLD!
And for the life of me, I cannot understand why people thought that this would be a full-blown computer. You guys realize that it makes ZERO sense for Apple to do that. These are the categories Apple has been in as far as hardware goes, in the past 10 years:
Computing: PC Towers, Laptops/Notebooks
Music: iPod, iPhone
TV: Apple TV
Mobile phone/smart phone/PDA: iPhone
Music and mobile phone: iPhone
Cameras: iMac, iPhone, iPod, MacBooks...
Now tell me in which category was Apple missing? e-Book reader! Hey, Sony, Nook (by B&N), Kindle, and others have made one, and it's selling like hot cakes! So Apple needed to come into that category and make one. Of course, not the same as others, but BETTER! And they did. iPhone/iPod Touch are the top in their category (I'm aware that iPad isn't a phone, but hey, Skype runs in it, I'm all set!). Kindle is at the top in its category. Why the hell not put them together? It is perfect for this category, and whether you believe so or not, they have raised the bar on e-book reading hardware. And they will top both categories soon!
No one wanted a watered-down netbook running a Phone OS.
What people want is an Apple netbook with multi-touch features that runs Snow Leopard. Apple could have easily accomplished this but failed to do so. Sorry.
this is so...
LAME...!
wtf were apple thinking of when they decided to produce one of these iwhack things? Did they not listen to what the consumer wanted? Honestly if this is what SJ's is most proud of then boy,apple are in for a bad few years! Saying that, i do see this thing selling alot, not that its practical or revolutionary, but the simple fact that it has apple lable on it, and that apple fanboys will lap it up!
$800+ for the 64g, 3g enable one? no thanks! but then again, its going to be a bargain for the US consumer compared to us poor folk over here in the UK!
damn you apple, damn you to .......!
PLEASE PLEASE APPLE GO ON TO ANY MAC WEBPAGE AND READ HOW DISAPPOINTED THE APPLE CONSUMERS ARE (GODDAMN, WE PAY YOUR WAGES) AND MAKE SOMETHING THAT CAN BE ACTUALLY USED AS A PRACTICAL THING, AND NOT JUST TO BROWSE THE WEB!
LAME...!
wtf were apple thinking of when they decided to produce one of these iwhack things? Did they not listen to what the consumer wanted? Honestly if this is what SJ's is most proud of then boy,apple are in for a bad few years! Saying that, i do see this thing selling alot, not that its practical or revolutionary, but the simple fact that it has apple lable on it, and that apple fanboys will lap it up!
$800+ for the 64g, 3g enable one? no thanks! but then again, its going to be a bargain for the US consumer compared to us poor folk over here in the UK!
damn you apple, damn you to .......!
PLEASE PLEASE APPLE GO ON TO ANY MAC WEBPAGE AND READ HOW DISAPPOINTED THE APPLE CONSUMERS ARE (GODDAMN, WE PAY YOUR WAGES) AND MAKE SOMETHING THAT CAN BE ACTUALLY USED AS A PRACTICAL THING, AND NOT JUST TO BROWSE THE WEB!
What is that suppose to mean? I'm not sure I understand what you're saying. Why would they? You want it become an e-Book Reader exchange station now?
Again, it's about the market. If you're a library person and your thing is to read physical books, enjoying the smell of the paper, then most likely you won't read full-blown book in a digital format anyway, making the iPad or any e-book reader useless to you. But even the public library system is catching up. They have e-books, at least my city's network does. Is up to Apple to make partnership with public libraries across the nation to have those e-books available for borrowing on the iPad.
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I am a newbie here so try not to eat my alive but I noticed on wikipedia the following from 2009:
January 27, 2009 iPhone OS 2.2.1 Release for iPhone OS version 2.2.1 (build 9M2621a).[34]
March 17, 2009 iPhone OS 3.0 Beta 1 Preview of iPhone OS version 3.0 and SDK 3.0 beta release.[35]
I hate to speculate because i am a Verizon person who got their hopes up yesterday but, maybe it is not so farfetched to think a 4.0 operating system is coming very soon and it will include things that weren't discussed yesterday.
I am a newbie here so try not to eat my alive but I noticed on wikipedia the following from 2009:
January 27, 2009 iPhone OS 2.2.1 Release for iPhone OS version 2.2.1 (build 9M2621a).[34]
March 17, 2009 iPhone OS 3.0 Beta 1 Preview of iPhone OS version 3.0 and SDK 3.0 beta release.[35]
I hate to speculate because i am a Verizon person who got their hopes up yesterday but, maybe it is not so farfetched to think a 4.0 operating system is coming very soon and it will include things that weren't discussed yesterday.
I agree.
It's yet another way to consume iTunes content, designed to build on people's familiarity with the iPhone / iPod Touch interface. The larger display size addresses the issues that consuming that content on the small display of the iPhone and iPod Touch has raised. Developers will adapt to this larger display in due course and probably within three to six months we'll start seeing applications that leverage the benefits, just as we saw with the iPhone / iPod Touch.
It's not designed to be a multi-purpose computer, which is what many people wanted / expected / demanded. And yet with all the complaints about performance on the current generation of Apple laptops with their "old" Core2 Duo processors and "lame" integrated graphics, an Apple netbook certainly would not be running a cutting edge CPU and GPU so we'd see the complaints move from "can't run (insert App name) at all" to "can't run (insert App name) worth s**t".
I admit to being underwhelmed, but I still think it will work for what I want. I have a MacBook Pro, but I don't really use the portability. Moving to the iPad will require me to adapt a bit (convert some video files to a form the iPad can display) and use iWorks instead of MS Office, but I do think it can work for me.
I think we're reaching a turning point in the consumption for the sake of consumption. I'll admit my priorities are different. I used to buy DVDs. Now I just use Hulu or get them from the library.
I don't understand how "library people" get labeled with some bizarre fetish for the printed page. I don't see a need for a $200-700 barrier to entry to read books when I can for free. (Believe me I know enough about the operating funds and costs for the library system here.)
We have online resources, downloadable audiobooks, and an iPhone/Touch application but that's still not stopping people from coming into the door. Foot traffic has gone up dramatically.
But you see, all you complainers/haters out there came up with your own speculations and expectations about this. Apple NEVER said anything. NEVER promised you anything prior to the announcement. EVERYTHING you guys said it would be/would have was pure speculation and based on nothing more than your own little fantastic world of "make me this all-powerful computing device with a shiny touch-screen, with all the bells and whistles of a complete MacBook. And it must be less than 1/4" inch thin, weigh a 1lb or less". I've yet to see any prior official announcement that this was a netbook or anything. It's so beyond stupid. Stop complaining!
SeenJeen, post #2206, really nails it! Apple had the bullseye in their crosshairs but how could they have completely missed the target?
I'm not really surprised that a product of the stores got this response. Dare I even say it created some negative mindshare about Apple. We've crawled out of the MP3s in your pocket wastelands to a full blown top to bottom purchasing system for music, video, and an application repository.
I've talked to friends and coworkers again today and they're still struggling to find a purpose for the iPad. Someone brought out their iPod Touch and was telling me how it was a great product given the size. Another told me that the iPad should have been first and Apple could have wowed us with a smaller version now.
It's a content device and Apple is more that likely shoring up lower margins on hardware with nickel and diming purchases. It's really strange to say that.
Yeah, but the sales of e-Books readers have also increased. And these a simply e-Book readers, nothing else.
You could look at it as benefit in both ways, public library saves consumption, by reusing. So does an iPad, potentially in more ways than a library does.
...and the library people fetish, what's wrong with that? My 15yo son has it bad! He would NEVER get an e-book reader or read books in a digital format. Never. LOL!
Doesn't thing thing have to eventually run flash ?
Fact is if this ( or if it hopes to ) replace a laptop, you simply can't not have a flash for websites.
Streaming things like Hulu are just too part of the web experience to be missing.
I understand the touch and phone not having it, but the iPad will have to have it for this product to be a viable alternative to a laptop.
Fact is if this ( or if it hopes to ) replace a laptop, you simply can't not have a flash for websites.
Streaming things like Hulu are just too part of the web experience to be missing.
I understand the touch and phone not having it, but the iPad will have to have it for this product to be a viable alternative to a laptop.
We're sadly still in the gadget phase for eBooks and not commodity. Hence my comment about the library handing out eBooks.
The library is much more than just a collection of books. On the other hand around here you're labeled a luddite for using the library. I'm not directing this specifically at you.
I just don't see the point in handing over money for something I can get for free and return for others to enjoy. This is for content before you even purchase the hardware.
Too bad that laptop screen is the wrong shape for eBooks. Hope you like scrolling. Oh, and scrolling with a trackpad to boot (vs. flicking with your finger).
Anyone who doesn't see the tablet form factor as the future of the classroom doesn't have much vision. The iPad is not the be-all-end-all, obviously, but this is the direction things are headed.
As a long-time lover of libraries, I still have the common sense to see that they are the museums of tomorrow. Most of the people who frequent my local library seem to be homeless dudes trying to get out of the cold. Sad.
The bottom line is stacks of ink on paper will someday be as archaic an idea as words carved into stone tablets are now. Digital information is the present and the future - it's just taking us awhile to fully get there. Who doesn't like the idea of a thousand "books" (even the word itself is doomed to irrelevance) in your pocket? And no trees killed in the process? (Not to mention all the resources involved in printing and transporting all that paper.)
The whole "free loan to the public" thing though - that's another issue and I have no idea how it will be solved.
Trust me - get enough eyeballs that can't watch Hulu in Flash and Hulu will figure out a way to deliver in a non-Flash way (say...HTML5 + h.264?). That's the beauty of capitalism. Where there's a dollar (or an ad-targeted eye) there's a way.
Please explain how two finger scrolling or hitting an arrow key is so much more effort compared to flicking. Next up page turning by just thinking about it. You don't even need to move a limb. It's just so HARD!
As much as I don't like saying this, I agree with you.
You really don't use your library's resources then. I suggest taking a look. At least my system is ahead of the curve.
That's not Apple's thing. They're in it to make money and I can't blame them.
Please explain how two finger scrolling or hitting an arrow key is so much more effort compared to flicking. Next up page turning by just thinking about it. You don't even need to move a limb. It's just so HARD!
Which is why eBooks have really caught fire in the laptop/desktop computer world.
You'll get used to it.
More info please? To what resources do you refer?
You think publishers like the thought that 1,000 people in your city are sharing a single book, CD and DVD? Libraries really aren't a "publisher's thing" either. That's one big worry I have about the digital age.
I'm not a fan of eBook readers either.Which is why eBooks have really caught fire in the laptop/desktop computer world.
I mentioned the online and computer resources we had earlier in this thread. It started off with just the catalog, databases, and journals but no matter how proactive we are to the DIGITAL AGE people still come in on foot. It still doesn't stop someone from placing a dozen holds on the website at 1 AM in the morning. We just finished a staff meeting on that.
You think that's bad. If it's not in system we can do an interlibrary loan. I predict publishing in the future of electronic resources is going to move to a site license for a library system. We already do that for our database and journal systems. Then again, you'll be able to do that using any web browser and *cough* Flash.
I was surprised 5 years ago when we had books viewable online already.
I've done this many times. Nothing better than perusing the collection on the website, choosing what I want, and having the library staff pull the books for me and have them waiting for me at the front desk. I doubt the library staff loves this particular chore though...
Why need Flash be part of the equation?
Libraries were designed for an age where you had to go to a physical location to put your hands on physically-delivered information. That age is fading to obscurity. I hope the "libraries" of the future are public places where people go to share ideas and talk about what they're learning and reading about on their electronic devices.
Sidenote: there's nothing quite like cracking open that book you've been waiting for months on the "Hold" list only to find pizza sauce (or worse) from the dillweed that had the book before you. *shudder*
Holds take up an ungodly amount of time. Otherwise many patrons just don't know how to find materials in the catalog much less on the floor.
Don't ask me. I didn't make the delivery system for viewing books from your browser that we use.
It disturbingly still is and traffic is going up.
It's not happening any time soon.
Raise hell about damaged items. They need to be weeded out by the circulation staff. Office politics can become and issue at larger branches and you'll have to talk with reference.
I don't mind scrolling, although I don't like eBooks on any device - I prefer a real book.
And I'd rather use a trackpad than the "flicking" scroll. When I scroll my iPod touch I continually hit hotspots I didn't intend, taking me somewhere I didn't want to go. It's probably the most frustrating thing about the touch.
I don't typically have this problem on my iPhone. I think the software requires a certain amount of "linger" time on a link to activate it. Try flicking without letting your finger rest on the screen for any amount of time.
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