So that's an unknown-unknown in Rummy-speak. Or is it a known-unknown. Oh, I don't know.Sorry, but that report said absolutely nothing and added exactly zero to what we know/don't know
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Yep. I connect my iPod Touch to my laptop maybe twice a year, and only because (if the computer is handy) it's quicker to subscribe to a podcast on iTunes and then hit 'sync' than it is to subscribe via the mobile interface. And I'm lazy.
I connected it a lot more often pre-2.0 firmware.
It doesn't say either of those things. It is simply a semantic issue and doesn't really mean anything.
Yes, because all non-Apple mobile devices exist in open ecosystems where nobody exerts any control over apps or carriers...
... oh wait...
Do you people ever listen to yourselves?
Name me another major smartphone OS that is locked down and doesn't support any way of app side-loading without going through a single vendor's "app store". Android, WebOS, and WinMo devices all support side-loading of apps, and are infinitely more open than iPhone OS.
Your move.
Ok people, listen up! It is REALLY SIMPLE. First of all, THEY ARE ALL OS X!
Apple took OS X and optimized it to be more suited for a mobile phone. That included adding some new things, like handling the phone chips, and removing some things that are not necessary!
Now that Apple has already molded OS X into what it needs to be for a mobile device, why on Earth would they start over for the iSlate? THEY WON'T!
They would start with the iPhone OS, and from there do THE SAME THING THEY DID BEFORE! Add some things, tweak some things, and make it perfectly suited for the iSlate and a bigger screen!
So is it derived from the iPhone OS? YES! Are they all OS X? YES! They all share the same code base. Macs, iPhone, iPod, Apple TV! That is done on purpose. It is MUCH more efficient in all areas, including to us because they can add features across product lines much faster!
Apple is not going to be like every other stupid company that slaps a desktop OS on a tablet and adds a touch screen, and calls it good. Doing just that is EXACTLY why tablets have FAILED miserably until now! They are like Windows Mobile and some stupid stylus to control little tiny things you can barely even see on screen lol.
Apple has already created OS X Touch, it is called the iPhone OS! They will now improve and refine that to make it beautiful on the iSlate!
Why is this so hard to understand?
Why do you think people don't understand OSX is the basic underpinnings on both iPhone OS and OSX? People do, but their capabilities are vastly different. iPhone OS doesn't allow access to the file system and greatly reduces how downloadable applications can function by sandboxing them. What's so hard to understand about that? You can take this "I'm better than you" attitude you're exhibiting and just leave the forum. People here aren't idiots, so stop pretending like your post is enlightening the world. Everyone knows iPhone OS is based off OSX.
Sure. But he didn't say "there are lots". He said(/implied) that all non-Apple mobile devices are totally open. And have Flash.
Which is, of course, nowhere close to true.
Really? "It is a big iPhone" (as opposed to say "a big iPod Touch") doesn't imply that it will have some level of mobile data functionality? Maybe we speak different languages.
Oh, pull-eeze! If it was Microsoft or Google saying it, you fanboys would be laughing your a**es off!
*goofy voice*: "It's a big Zune HD, but it's not just a big Zune HD." C'mon!
"Your move", eh. How macho.
You cleverly tried to shift the goalposts to "major smartphone OS". Sorry, that wasn't the other poster's contention, and I'm not taking the bait.
If you run too many Apps on your Mac, it'll slow down.. I don't see the difference - between Mac v iSlate ( or indeed, iPhone ). You just close down applications that your not using at the time. Problem solved.
As long as you are aware that multi-tasking with run down your battery faster, then I don't see what the problem is.
Sure, $99 isn't that much if your publishing to Appstore.
I can't develop my own personal applications, that are not intended for the AppStore and put them on my device, without paying apple $99. And that really annoys me. Total Lock Down. Its almost like a developer tax.
remember this one?
https://www.macrumors.com/2010/01/0...sider-sheds-light-on-apples-controlled-leaks/
This useless frontpage news is another fairly good example..
https://www.macrumors.com/2010/01/0...sider-sheds-light-on-apples-controlled-leaks/
This useless frontpage news is another fairly good example..
Agree 100% on the multitasking... popping in and out of my scrabble (words-with-friends) game every time I get a text message, is bugging the crap out of me. Not all apps 'remember' their previous state when you relaunch them. And I have to go find the icon amongst all the crap I've downloaded.
Since you do not understand the thought process or experiences of the quotee, then you cannot guess what he meant. As an owner of an iPhone but not an iPod Touch I probably would call a tablet device with no mobile data functionality and an iPhone like interface a 'big iPhone'. Context people. Words are often meaningless without context.
No. What he said was:
I don't see "all non-Apple mobile devices totally open" anywhere in his statement. And even if he did say "most non-Apple devices are open" - that would be an absolutely accurate statement.
I have never heard of an Blackberry, Google, Microsoft or Palm "approving" mobile apps for their respective platform. Apple is the only smartphone OS vendor that imposes this.
Still, without flash, you can't 'experience the full internet'.. there are many sites that use Flash as content ( not adverts! ).
There's a quality control concern. If someone downloads an app that burns CPU when it's sitting in the background doing nothing (very common on the desktop, sadly) they may not even realize it's running. They're just going to say "the iPhone sucks!" You can say "well, those people are stupid" but that's completely irrelevant. Apple is not unique in not wanting that sort of bad word-of-mouth.
I'm not thrilled with that either, but I'm not such a silly person that I walk around yelling "control freaks!!" without considering that it's just another of the many trade-offs that are involved with any consumer electronics item.
Apple Tablet
Apple has been testing the key tablet technologies for a few years and now is about ready to release them in one integrated device.
Screen sharing
Back to my Mac
iTunes shared library
the iPodtouch and iphone are great and there are a few apps that let you control a remote mac and or get files off the remote machine, keeping you from having cary all your files with you.
I believe (and have no inside info) that the Tablet will be a "window" on your digital world. i.e. a bigger screen and more horse power in the display that the touch/phone.
What good is this?
keeps you from having to manage two machines it syncs like a iPod/iPhone
it allows you access to all your files. And even use the remote machine for some heavy lifting remotely, i.e. running full apps and transmitting only the UI (think keynote on the road etc.)
it will run apps for the iPod touch iPhone (maybe modified maybe not) and will surf and will be an e-reader and will have 8-32 GB local flash storage. for synced data (movies, music etc, better speakers than iphone, will have 30 pin connector, I think it will be about 10" across and have a a 1200 x 700 screen res, .25" thick, and plastic uni body design, will cost $600-800.
it will help sell more iMacs, which are easier to expand, easier to back up, and easier to secure than laptops. The tablet will give you access to all that storage and horse power, seamlessly, without a fuss. and when at home use the iMac to do the heavy work. Or if you don't do an heavy lifting you just have a mac mini with all your data and use the tablet as your "window" into it.
The advantage over a full laptop is size/weight. as long as you are connected and don't need to do a ton of heavy work remotely this will be the machine you want.
"persistent computing" your window to the digital world.
Apple has been testing the key tablet technologies for a few years and now is about ready to release them in one integrated device.
Screen sharing
Back to my Mac
iTunes shared library
the iPodtouch and iphone are great and there are a few apps that let you control a remote mac and or get files off the remote machine, keeping you from having cary all your files with you.
I believe (and have no inside info) that the Tablet will be a "window" on your digital world. i.e. a bigger screen and more horse power in the display that the touch/phone.
What good is this?
keeps you from having to manage two machines it syncs like a iPod/iPhone
it allows you access to all your files. And even use the remote machine for some heavy lifting remotely, i.e. running full apps and transmitting only the UI (think keynote on the road etc.)
it will run apps for the iPod touch iPhone (maybe modified maybe not) and will surf and will be an e-reader and will have 8-32 GB local flash storage. for synced data (movies, music etc, better speakers than iphone, will have 30 pin connector, I think it will be about 10" across and have a a 1200 x 700 screen res, .25" thick, and plastic uni body design, will cost $600-800.
it will help sell more iMacs, which are easier to expand, easier to back up, and easier to secure than laptops. The tablet will give you access to all that storage and horse power, seamlessly, without a fuss. and when at home use the iMac to do the heavy work. Or if you don't do an heavy lifting you just have a mac mini with all your data and use the tablet as your "window" into it.
The advantage over a full laptop is size/weight. as long as you are connected and don't need to do a ton of heavy work remotely this will be the machine you want.
"persistent computing" your window to the digital world.
How many trade - offs are you willing to accept? i.e., People got highly pissed off with DRM on music.
Control Freak and Apple go hand in hand. Sadly, they get away with it.
:-(
There would have been outrage if microsoft applied the same amount of control to its products as Apple does.
Still, Apple make good products ( I'd rather use OSX than windows ).
This is not a debate you will win on these forums. Many people here hate flash with a searing red hot passion, and while I disagree with them, I understand where they are coming from.
When Flash can export iPhone apps, it will be a great source iPhone games. Some of the Flash haters may not realize that there are some games on the App Store built with betas of Flash CS5. One of my dev friends insists canabalt was built using Flash CS5, since it was a Flash game first and then came to the iPhone really quickly. I've never seen any proof of that, though.
We are talking about apps for smartphones here, are we not? What would you like the goalposts to be?
But fine, name me another example of any OS platform (mobile, desktop, server, anything).. where developers have to wait for a single company to "approve" their application for being sold or given away to the customers.
