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Apple Takes Jab at Samsung in Full Page Earth Day Newspaper Ad

"Of course we know we can continue to do better"

Trouble is, every other company out there also says exactly the same thing. The only difference is every other company is quiet about it so to speak, where as Apple bloats it all out as though they are really proud of themselves :p

I like Apple, but my advice ? Don't get too cocky... It'll hurt ya later.
 
peterdevries said:
I think you need to differentiate between disruptive innovation (which you describe above) and incremental innovation. The latter is what everyone is accusing Apple to do too much of; improving their products in small increments with small scale new technology (e.g. Touch ID, lightning port). What everyone wants is the disruptive innovations (e.g. iPad, iPhone, retina displays, Macbook Air).

The problem is that many people don't know what is involved in innovation in terms of business and how a business can create innovation. It is not a problem that you can throw money at or flick a switch. But good luck in trying to convince people here of that.
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Excellent differentiation. We generally love to overuse terms without thought to what they mean with context.

osofast240sx said:
Usually but not always when these companies go for disruptive innovation it usually adds up to a bunch of gimmicks. Samsung is constantly throwing stuff at the wall to see what sticks and while that might not be a good or bad thing. I prefer Apple approach how they let the technology be refined before they added to device. I like my stuff actually to work and work well
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Both companies have different strategies that work, else neither would be as successful as they are. Both Samsung's and Apple's tech works. Whether you think Samsung's tech is "wall stuff" is just an opinion. Some people like their incremental innovations. Another opinion. As for Apple letting tech be refined before release... yeah, that's just revisionist history. Siri, Maps, Touch ID, just to name a few, didn't come out of the gate refined. I say that not as a knock against Apple, but as evidence of something you may have, this is one of my favorite none words, mis-remembered. All tech has it's quibbles. To suggest otherwise is not exactly accurate.


OT: I actually like Apple showing some balls going back at Samsung. I guess Schiller wasn't joking around. I own products from both companies so I have no skin in the Apple vs Samsung war. It does make MR more entertaining though.
 
peterdevries said:

  • Apple introduced the iPhone in 2007. This was a disruptive innovation, which redefined the smartphone market.
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  • I was rocking a (ironically) Samsung i700 PocketPC phone in 2002. It was not much different than today's iPhone. Graphical touchscreen interface, camera swung for front and back imaging, powered by apps you could buy from various online stores. All Apple did was make their own phone from the latest technological advances to date. So I don't see how iPhone was a technological game changer. A marketing game changer maybe, but not technological. The iPad, yes. But not the iPhone.

    And lets' not overlook Apple's own stealing - the pulldown message center or the idea of offering both 4.x and 5.x screen sizes for phones (just like Samsung offered with their Galaxy S ad Note series for several years now.

    I love Apple stuff, I have an iPad, iPhone, a couple of Apple TV's, where I stream thousands of dollars worth of video and movies bought from iTunes over the years. And I'm typing this on my (ridiculously overpriced but still cool) $3300 Macbook Pro Retina. So I am definitely an Apple guy. But I don't drink the Kool-aid either and the fanboy's constant "Apple did everything first and everyone else just copies" attitudes (and their constant denigration of Samsung, who makes a lot of Apple's gadgets' parts) are really annoying.

    And on an innovation note, Samsung, quite frankly, is better at it right now. I think the iPhone 5S is a brilliant phone, but the Note 3 (and Galaxy S5) are too, maybe even more so. I am playing around with a Note 3 and it is amazing. 5.7 inch 1920 by 1080 screen, wireless AC, bluetooth 4.0, NFC, wireless charging (very cool feature), support for a 128GB micro SD card (total of 160GB possible storage), removable battery and IR blaster in hardware. The iPhone's are just plain boring, compared to that. And software wise, a lot of their Android add-ons are gimmicks (like waving your hand to turn the screen), but they are at least there and can be turned off.

    iPhone needs to start cranking up the feature set to compete, plain and simple. For instance, a micro SD card. Really, Apple, 2014 and still no support? And the "it ruins the solid construction of iPhone" excuse is not valid. You could integrate it solidly, construction-wise, by making it like the SIM tray - just slide it in via a tray. So you can still keep a sealed iPhone casing and unbroken lines that the iPhone has. And they should have used microUSB for connecting and charging from the start. People are less tolerating of proprietary features than they once were.
 
the8thark said:
You would be surprised. Many customers (corporate and individual) do care about buying greener and more local. it's big business. I personally (at similar prices and product quality) would buy greener and local. And I am not alone in this thought process.
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You are exactly right. You're not alone in this thought process. But you are in a very small minority. The vast majority of people just don't care about a company's green initiatives. We may give lip service to it, but most of us prefer the convenience of the status quo. Hopefully that will change in the future.
 
69Mustang said:
Excellent differentiation. We generally love to overuse terms without thought to what they mean with context.



Both companies have different strategies that work, else neither would be as successful as they are. Both Samsung's and Apple's tech works. Whether you think Samsung's tech is "wall stuff" is just an opinion. Some people like their incremental innovations. Another opinion. As for Apple letting tech be refined before release... yeah, that's just revisionist history. Siri, Maps, Touch ID, just to name a few, didn't come out of the gate refined. I say that not as a knock against Apple, but as evidence of something you may have, this is one of my favorite none words, mis-remembered. All tech has it's quibbles. To suggest otherwise is not exactly accurate.


OT: I actually like Apple showing some balls going back at Samsung. I guess Schiller wasn't joking around. I own products from both companies so I have no skin in the Apple vs Samsung war. It does make MR more entertaining though.
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Touch ID has always worked for me. Apple maps has let me down twice but to be fair google has given me wrong direction also. Siri is what it is.
 
Hilarious. I guess even multi-billion dollar companies aren't above behaving like children.
 
This is the classiest and strongest ad I've seen from Apple in a long time. I guess Phil's angriness talked some sense into those people over there. I love the recent push Apple has had toward helping the environment, and managing to get in a good jab as Samsung in the process is just a win-win.
 
Food for thought

Samsung is pretty brave to battle Apple without their own operating system. It has always baffled me why they trash talk so much, yet they depend on other software to make their product shine. Now granted Android is not a bad OS, however Apple does everything on their own, excluding the production line of their products. Moreover, a stylus should not be a selling point for your products. Wake up Samsung, the palm pilot/pocket pc died a long time ago. Reintroducing old standards into the market is not mind blowing. Am I alone of this thought process?
 
dol4n said:
Never said it was. Apple should stop bitching about that others do copy. Focus on your own company.
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They are focusing on their own company and protecting the billions they spend making their tech. If copying wasn't illegal there would be no trial.

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jlnixon23 said:
Samsung is pretty brave to battle Apple without their own operating system. It has always baffled me why they trash talk so much, yet they depend on other software to make their product shine. Now granted Android is not a bad OS, however Apple does everything on their own, excluding the production line of their products. Moreover, a stylus should not be a selling point for your products. Wake up Samsung, the palm pilot/pocket pc died a long time ago. Reintroducing old standards into the market is not mind blowing. Am I alone of this thought process?
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No. You are not alone. The Apple haters on this site are just far more vocal.
 
samcraig said:
Nice PR. However - most customers simply don't care and this won't have any effect on sales. Not that it's meant to. It's Apple patting themselves nicely on the back.
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I don't think it's intended to be the super sales booster either, I take it as a fun ad with some good sense of humour. In the long run I'd find it interesting to know how many people "get it". Since the name Samsung of course isn't mentioned in the ad it would say a lot about the public perception of the brand "Samsung" if people that are less involved in the tech world/sites/blogs also think of "Samsung" right away.

Maybe Apple didn't even target this at Samsung directly.
 
jlnixon23 said:
It has always baffled me why they trash talk so much, yet they depend on other software to make their product shine.
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You mean like Apple depends on Samsung to make many of the parts for their devices? You can't just "exclude the production line". That's a significant part of it all. In fact, that key fact is right in this story. No thin battery means no iPhone 5.5 inch screen. None of these companies would produce anything without being dependent on others.
 
osofast240sx said:
Touch ID has always worked for me. Apple maps has let me down twice but to be fair google has given me wrong direction also. Siri is what it is.
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None of this addresses our dialogue regarding Apple and refined products. Touch ID had well documented fade issues. Maps; well documented issues which are still being addressed. Siri is... bless her heart. <- Southern thing.

Google giving you wrong directions is basically deflection. It's totally unrelated to Apple's refinement. My point of contention was never with Touch ID, Maps, or Siri. It was with the comment that Apple releases refined where Samsung doesn't. That's not an accurate picture. It does further a narrative though.
 
rahhb.riley said:
Oh stop it. You're an alarmist. When those services are restored I'll be tracking you down to make sure you back track on your verbal diaareeha.
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When the services are restored I can assure you that the verbal diaareeha comes to an end...

Sorry for coming over as alarmist but I'm afraid that just letting this slip is not an option for me. Services can go down, support for older releases can stop, but no communication for 5 days on a clearly broken service is not something I would have expected from Apple...

As background, it took half of my family and friends offline - most of whom don't even know the concept of a software update. They just use and love their iPad/iPhone 'as-is'. Why on earth do I need to explain a 85 year old that Apple 'seems to have an issue with FT' (as no one really knows) and as a consequence the iPad he feels comfortable with needs to be 'upgraded' and things might be a bit 'different' after that. The old guy just likes to press a button and see his grandkids! And all of that, the day before Easter... yes, I'm p*ssed :mad:
 
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