Its not the issue of attenuation. its more about dropped calls due to attenuation. none of apple's clips show this. apple looks classless showing all their rivals phones demonstrating attenuation, when that isn't the real issue. its the matter of dropped calls due to attenuation.
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Apple Takes on Droid X With Latest Smartphone Antenna Video
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Its not the issue of attenuation. its more about dropped calls due to attenuation. none of apple's clips show this. apple looks classless showing all their rivals phones demonstrating attenuation, when that isn't the real issue. its the matter of dropped calls due to attenuation.
I disagree. I'm a perfect example. I'd been waiting on the reservation list at the Apple Store for three weeks. Over the past week, I became indecisive when my best friend got a Droid X. I was seriously contemplating the Droid X. When I got the email yesterday that the iPhone 4 was ready, I decided to get it and just return it within the 30 day period if there was a problem. When I walked out to my car, I was using the phone and I became sad when the bars dropped when I held the phone "a certain way" (I hold the phone like that all the time). I took the case off of my 3G and put it on my iPhone 4 and problem fixed. The iPhone 4 is AWESOME now!
BUT, I ALMOST BOUGHT THE DROID X INSTEAD! and that is why Apple is making such a big deal out of this - people that do not already own and iPhone 4 are deterred by this antenna "problem" and Motorola and Verizon are all over it!
Well Steve said they spend 22 days to find the first three shown during the press conference. After 4 more days they found out that in energy saving mode n97 can drop one or two bars if hold strangely. After 4 more days they found a spot without 3G coverage where Droid X looses one or two bars.
So they didn't just try different phones they had to try those phones in very specific circumstances.
Like Steve said during the press conference:
Q: I can't get my Bold to drop right now, maybe you can show me how to do it?
Steve: You may not see it in certain areas.
I have a Droid X and I can't even recreate this at all. First of all, the guy in the video has gigantic hands. I can't even hold it like that if I try. Nobody's going to be holding it like that in normal phone conversation.
The most I could get the signal to drop was down to three bars. And to do that I had to use both hands and my stomach. Anybody can recreate the iPhone 4 signal loss with a single finger. I'm starting to get really upset with Apple. I love my Macs to death (typing this on 27" iMac), but I'm starting to get fed up with them.
The most I could get the signal to drop was down to three bars. And to do that I had to use both hands and my stomach. Anybody can recreate the iPhone 4 signal loss with a single finger. I'm starting to get really upset with Apple. I love my Macs to death (typing this on 27" iMac), but I'm starting to get fed up with them.
I agree with this. I am not even convinced this has ANYTHING to do with the actual signal degradation. I just bite my tongue on it, because some people have come to believe it is what it is happening because a couple of other people said it, and it makes some basic sense without digging into it too far.
Certainly Apple has never said that is what is happening.
So you are saying people who are in an area with a less strong signal will potentially experience poorer service?
interesting.
It didn't just show its face. Cell phones have sucked since they were car phones. (Although car phones were fairly decent given the much bigger antennas). The reality is positioning and relative position has always played a role in the usability soup for any cell phone. That is why this whole thing was so silly in the first place. It was like 1000 people who had never used a cell phone in their life were dropped onto mac rumors in june and july of 2010.
No way. Google is by far the most evil cooperation in the world. Google has literal zero patience and tolerance for consumers. They are a simple commodity to be exploited.
I don't think anyone attending the press conference had any issues with signal strength at that location regardless of carrier. They came right out and said that there are AT&T and Verizon towers located on Apple's campus. Also, interestingly enough, none of the Apple guys on stage at the press conference had their phones in any kind of case/bumper from what I've read.
You've got to be kidding me. They sold 1.7 MILLION iPhone 4's in the first weekend. I don't think they've sold that many Android phones all total! And tablets? Please, Apple's cranking out a million a month and they still can't keep them in stock. No way Android is eating their lunch... I call BS.
If this was a "Mac vs. PC" commercial using Jon Hodgman and Justin Long to act out these series of issues, Justin Long would be remarking about he has the same major flaw as other smart phones.
Who cares, Apple. Make your product better. Don't just point out how everyone else is just as bad. It sucks.
Who cares, Apple. Make your product better. Don't just point out how everyone else is just as bad. It sucks.
Lets assume 3.2 Million Iphone 4's in 30 days = 107K/day.
Android's numbers = 160K/day
Do I need to do the rest of the math?
Where did Apple find such monstrous hands that can smother even a Droid X?
No kidding, right? pretty lame attempt by apple to make to try and make themselves look better.
VZW doesnt seem to mind trashing the competition so I expect a response that makes apple look even worse. Dunno what apple was thinking when they did this.
The poor droid users have to buy their own bumpers. At least Apple is owning up to it and buying the bumpers.
I4 had issues, that's what the conference what all about. lol.
Yeah that must have been a funny coincident. No-one at Apple probably thought at all whether they should or should not show bumpers on their phones they held for everyone to see and take pictures knowing that those pictures would be shown all over.
This is one of my favorite arguments.
"Wait until you go to areas with weak signals and can't make calls! <shakes fist violently>"
good for you. sometimes i can completely envelop my phone within my hands and i don't lose any bars. it's because i'm in an area with a particularly strong signal. either you're just lucky and your phone doesn't exhibit the problem, or you're consistently in areas with excellent coverage. but all iphone 4's do this, to see it, run the internet speedtest on your iphone, once without touching that area and once while holding your finger on that area. post your results. if it doesn't affect your day to day, then you likely don't, and probably shouldn't, care. but your flippant anecdote is clearly meant to intimidate and it isn't constructive, it just makes you look kind of prickish.
Verizon needs to make an ad, with 1 finger touching the "death spot" with "Call Failed" message.
Spending all of the R&D money to dump on other phone makers rather than fix iP4's issues apple? Lame! Where is your integrity SJ?
Sure they sold a lot, but ATT has acknowledged that the percentage of first time buyers is shrinking. Back in the day, the same thing could be said about the Apple II market share...but in a few years after that, the Microsoft model ate Apples lunch, so much so that they almost starved to death.
The iPhone / iOS is good - but I think its Androids to lose at this point in the game. Apple has just made it faster with their poorly designed iPhone 4 and their slime-ball attitude.
77% of those sales were "upgrades." Given Apple's abandonment of the 1G, 2G, and only partial support of the 3G with iOS 4, it kind of makes sense why so many made the jump.
Android phones have sold way more than that number. About 8 MILLION in 2009. Google stated that currently 160,000 Android devices are sold a day, so every 10 days 1.6 MILLION are sold.
By sticking with AT&T, Apple is missing out on about 93 million subscribers.
Are you comparing the number of sales of a single product (iPhone 4) running iOS, to that of 20+ devices, sold on 4 major networks, which run the Android OS? (not to mention, Verizon's Buy One - Get One deals)
If you were to factor in iPod Touches and iPads, as unbalanced as that comparison still would be, iOS would seem to fare better.