Did you read it? He states that his results agree with the consumer reports results. Also says yes it goes down and you need a bumper. I think you should read it top to bottom.
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Apple Takes on Droid X With Latest Smartphone Antenna Video
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Did you read it? He states that his results agree with the consumer reports results. Also says yes it goes down and you need a bumper. I think you should read it top to bottom.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_q4eVoyNDE
Yes, they made a call and hit the dial pad up. Its a software bug that the bars go down during a call, watch the video the bars go right back up right after the call is over. Also speed tests show no difference
Any how for anyone to hold the phone like they did is very odd, we all know every phone looses a bar or 2 when you cover the antenna. But with the iphone4 its a bit worse, Anandtech got 24dBm difference thats huge :X
I can understand what Apple is trying to do, but other phone manufacturers might as well step in and do the same... by making a video where only one single finger tip drops the signal. What good will that be for Apple?
As Dr. Mac would say:
Why do you say this?
Really, you are the one clinging to straws, looking for some way for Apple to be wrong about this entire thing.
So if you hold a phone like a retard/grip it tightly (very unnatural) it loses a few bars, and keeps the call. Place a metal object to bridge the lower left side of an iPhone 4, or touch it lightly with your finger, or even holding iPhone 4 normaly drops the call, and displays "Searching"
Can someone explain how those are the same?
Actually, in a weak signal area my Motorola Milestone (Droid) drops calls and loses signal constantly with a normal grip. I can have full signal/3 bars (whatever that means in the real world), pick it up to send a text/take a call and the damn thing goes to displaying a red cross indicating no signal at all. Put it down, wait a moment, yep - there's my signal again.
Poor signal areas are a PITA. I've nearly thrown my Milestone a few times because of this frustrating behaviour (it also cocks up all the nice Android widgets, as they can't reliably get data and updates - I will be upgrading to an iPhone 4 on that account ASAP). My iPhone 3GS doesn't suffer the drops as often, but does in certain rooms in the house.
"Probably" doesn't cut it in these parts
You need evidence. This reminds me of debate club
. I'm probably getting practice from this .
Directly to my IRA, so when I retire I can keep buying Apple toys!
Apple doesn't pay dividends...
Finally, someone who uses a phone. I'm not sure of that other guy uses a phone (at least to make calls)
I find this unbelievable, not the story and videos but the millions of people who believe that the iPhone 4 is the most problematic phone out there. This whole thing was blown out of proportion and seems like, in history,the biggest news spotlight on a phone ever. Now if somone drops a bar, they think its euch a problem when they probably droped the same amount of bars on their previous phone. Apples simply showing the arrogant masses that believe anything the media portrays. we can just blame the complaining customers that think if they buy the newest apple product they will automatically have the "best" phone out there.
It's simple.... All phones have reception problems... Get over it. If you have such reception issues, maybe you should just stay at home and buy a landline phone. I hear vonage is good
Problem solved.
It's simple.... All phones have reception problems... Get over it. If you have such reception issues, maybe you should just stay at home and buy a landline phone. I hear vonage is good
Problem solved.
Not a likely scenario, since it's already been publicly demonstrated that all cell phones attenuate universally, when held, or touched in certain ways.
The purpose of this demonstration was not intended to smear any one particular brand - instead, it was to neutralize the misconception that only iPhones drop their signals when held.
What's wrong with everyone? If Apple just said that "every other phone has this kind of issues to some extent", they'd be asking for factual data. No there it is, and they accuse Apple of "pointing fingers". Heck, when they expect you to be perfect it's impossible to please everyone. Truth speaks for irself; there isn't this much hype about any other phone. So much for the "iPhone Killers".
haha
it's hilarious to see droid fans get their panties twisted with this. Fact is this happens to all phones, yet media outlets and notoriously antiapple bloggers and "journalists" promoted this hysteria about the antenna saying it was an Apple only flaw.
it's hilarious to see droid fans get their panties twisted with this. Fact is this happens to all phones, yet media outlets and notoriously antiapple bloggers and "journalists" promoted this hysteria about the antenna saying it was an Apple only flaw.
Funny, I recently got my Droid X and, before this article was even up, tried to recreate the "death grip" just to see if Apple had any credibility to it when they tried to make this problem seem like... well... less of a problem, and I genuinely couldn't. I can tell you, without a shadow of a doubt, that I have never experienced such a dramatic and quick drop of coverage from holding my X as such that is seen in that video from Apple. I don't know what they are doing or how they are recreating it but I simply cannot obtain such a drop. 1... maybe 2 bars if I'm lucky and I only got 2 gripping it with 2 hands! Nevermind holding it in the way that was shown in the video...
Also, Apple should realize that this "death grip" being performed on the Droid X here is necessary on the X to cause any such decline in signal strength, where as a NORMAL grip with simply a finger covering the gap on the iPhone 4 causes the issue... that, in my opinion, is much worse as I rarely hold my phone like I want to crush it and more often hold it normally, which seems to been the issue with the iPhone 4.
Now at this point you are probably thinking "leave Android fanboy go flame somewhere else." By all means, I am not an Android fanboy... the X is the first Android device I've personally owned and have always loved the original iPhone, the 3G, and the 3GS, but when a company designs a product with a flaw such as this, I believe that the company's plan of action should be owing up to the issue, fixing it, or at least sympathizing with the idea that they may have done something wrong (but that is usually too much to ask of Apple) instead of childishly pointing the finger at other smartphones and their manufacturers in, what I would consider, an underhanded attack to distract the public eye from the original issue at hand and to make us think it wasn't an issue in the first place. The truth is, it was an issue. There would have been massive backlash from users if the original Droid, Evo 4G, or heck, any other phone's signal attenuated to such a degree as the iPhone 4's does when being held regularly and now Apple is trying to make us think we just "didn't notice it" in the other phones we used. That's underhanded, unprofessional, and most of all, a blatant lie to consumers in general. Just my two cents.
Also, Apple should realize that this "death grip" being performed on the Droid X here is necessary on the X to cause any such decline in signal strength, where as a NORMAL grip with simply a finger covering the gap on the iPhone 4 causes the issue... that, in my opinion, is much worse as I rarely hold my phone like I want to crush it and more often hold it normally, which seems to been the issue with the iPhone 4.
Now at this point you are probably thinking "leave Android fanboy go flame somewhere else." By all means, I am not an Android fanboy... the X is the first Android device I've personally owned and have always loved the original iPhone, the 3G, and the 3GS, but when a company designs a product with a flaw such as this, I believe that the company's plan of action should be owing up to the issue, fixing it, or at least sympathizing with the idea that they may have done something wrong (but that is usually too much to ask of Apple
) instead of childishly pointing the finger at other smartphones and their manufacturers in, what I would consider, an underhanded attack to distract the public eye from the original issue at hand and to make us think it wasn't an issue in the first place. The truth is, it was an issue. There would have been massive backlash from users if the original Droid, Evo 4G, or heck, any other phone's signal attenuated to such a degree as the iPhone 4's does when being held regularly and now Apple is trying to make us think we just "didn't notice it" in the other phones we used. That's underhanded, unprofessional, and most of all, a blatant lie to consumers in general. Just my two cents.Inaction causes backlash.
Think about it. When this whole brouhaha started, all of the other cellphone/smartphone makers were perfectly happy to sit back and let all the slings and arrows land squarely on Apple's head.
"Ho, ho, ho," they said, "more for meeeee!"
Now Apple has stated that it's a global issue, and they've diligently shown how easy it is to get the same degraded readouts from EVERYTHING.
And those same folks who were enjoying the flames are now squealing like stuck pigs with the attitude, "Don't you drag us into your problem, Apple."
Turns out Apple, not the complainers, was right all along.
Just deserts.
Think about it. When this whole brouhaha started, all of the other cellphone/smartphone makers were perfectly happy to sit back and let all the slings and arrows land squarely on Apple's head.
"Ho, ho, ho," they said, "more for meeeee!"
Now Apple has stated that it's a global issue, and they've diligently shown how easy it is to get the same degraded readouts from EVERYTHING.
And those same folks who were enjoying the flames are now squealing like stuck pigs with the attitude, "Don't you drag us into your problem, Apple."
Turns out Apple, not the complainers, was right all along.
Just deserts.
Because it depends on reception and other things just like with the iPhone 4. "iPhone 4 antenna issue" blowed out of proportion just backfired.
Sure. We all know that, but non of these other phones will drop signal when touched by a single finger top. Not even in a weak reception area, and that is exactly what I am trying to address here; some of these manufacturers call these Apple PR tactics a clever, unfair diversion of Apple's antenna design flaw.
People need to realize that the issue occurring in most phones is not the same as the one on the iphone 4. On other phones, the signal drops because ones hand effectively shields the phone. If you put a bumper on an iphone 4 and grip it incredibly hard (look at the blood in the fingers of people in these comparison videos, they are grasping these phones ridiculously hard), the same thing happens. The signal gets weaker, but the antenna is still functional. However, on the iphone 4, the design of the antenna is such that any conductive material touching the two separate sections at the same time "bridges" it (think of it like shorting out), effectively rendering the antenna in an almost non-operative condition.
That being said, I am still getting one. The overall all design seems better for reception than conventional designs, it's just that it can't be touched in one very clear spot. Like Steve said, "x marks the spot". Atleast was kind enough to point out where not to touch it, with other phones you have to guess (still recognizing, of course, that the reception problems with the iphone 4 are a whole other can of worms than the issues with conventional antennas). I'll still be getting invisible shield for the steel band though....
That being said, I am still getting one. The overall all design seems better for reception than conventional designs, it's just that it can't be touched in one very clear spot. Like Steve said, "x marks the spot". Atleast
was kind enough to point out where not to touch it, with other phones you have to guess (still recognizing, of course, that the reception problems with the iphone 4 are a whole other can of worms than the issues with conventional antennas). I'll still be getting invisible shield for the steel band though....
Love Apple, but they are being un-Apple-like lately.
Focus on what you do better, as usual, not this petty junk.
Oh well.
Disagree. This is classic Steve Jobs. You should read up on the guy, this sorta thing goes back 20-30 years. He's just been more unhinged lately.
Funny how I just saw a video of someone testing out a bunch of phones on youtube and the only phone with problems were the 3GS the Iphone 4 and ATT Samsung phone. The Droid X, EVO, Aria, and Nexus One all passed without dropping. If I were these phone companies I would sue Apple. I think these videos Apple are making are very childish and false.
If you're only touching the phone with a single finger, does it have to be in the one spot that causes a problem. We can't all the "hold it right"? The point of this is not to say other phones are flawed. The point is that all phones have a way they CANNOT be held. So, don't hold it that way.
Wow, you've managed to use retarted and fail in one short un-intelligent reply you only needed yo add lame to win the under 15's post of the month... Oh and your rig.. nice! Did daddy buy it for you?
That's understandable but to my knowledge this occurs when the iPhone has midrange signal strength (around 3 bars or so). When i attempted to do this on my X I had 3 bars as well and was only able to drop it by 1 bar using a single hand like shown in the video. Also, there are key things to understand from this vdeo...
1. The Droid X is on call throughout that whole video and, yeah it may have lost all it's bars (still don't get how they were able to recreate that haha) but notice it never actually dropped the call...
2. The iPhone 4 doesn't need to be gripped like a madman to drop a call. From whats been shown, anything at all... even a finger tip bridging the gap... totally halts all data transmission COMPLETELY.
Show me the video of a Droid X (or any phone besides the iPhone 4) being touched by one finger in any spot and subsequently losing ALL DATA TRANSMISSION because of it and I'll tell you the iPhone 4 doesn't have an issue... when I can drop a call and stop my data connection on my Droid X by placing my single finger on a specific spot I'll be glad to admit it's not an issue and simply the "nature of the smartphone" as Apple likes to call it. That's not what happens in the real world and until then, these videos are completely useless and don't help the case for the iPhone 4 at all.