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Apple Takes on Droid X With Latest Smartphone Antenna Video
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Wait, you mean there are iPhone 4s that aren't faulty ? Why isn't Apple offering an exchange then for people affected ?
That makes no sense whatsoever.
Give me a break. Roll your eyes out the door. You ignore the people with no problems with their iphones and pile on the criticism to your hearts content. But suddenly when the shoe is on the other foot you can't handle it.
If your iphone does more than just lose bars, then return it. If you do not drop calls then you're fine.
Wait, you mean there are iPhone 4s that aren't faulty ? Why isn't Apple offering an exchange then for people affected ?
That makes no sense whatsoever.
Man you do know that you suffer from a well know syndrome don't you, its called "Tech Forum Logic"!
How does Apple offering to give you your money back equal an admission that the phone is in some way faulty? All they are doing is waving the restocking fee, no more than that!
If the iPhone really was faulty they would *have* to take them back and not just inside 30 days either!
I'm sorry mate your the one who makes no sense, well expect in that odd little world you live in! Is it lonely at all in there??
No. It's fun watching you waste time on these posts though. Now call someone a fanboy. It will make you feel better.
You don't read Macrumors much do you ?
It's an army of sorts but it's not armed with tanks and battleships. Just Birkenstocks and blunt insults like "troll", "baby" and "fandroid".
So are you saying I was right and you were wrong ?
I see you never even started to address my point. Again for you, stay on track on this one : All units are affected. Exchanges won't help. All 100% of iPhone 4s have the issue, a 20 dbm drop when touched in the specific spot which happens to be right where you place your finger or palm in a natural way, as shown in Apple ads. Not all users are affected by a 20 dbm drop in signal because of their geographical location.
Other phones require covering multiple, larger areas in order to achieve a similar phenomenom that isn't quite as severe. The Nexus 1, the major offender drops 10 dbm, which is 8 times less severe (decibels are a logarithmic scale) than iPhone 4.
This is the issue my friend. If there really are iPhone 4s that don't exhibit this issue, what is different about them, when were they put into production and why is Apple not offering exchanges ? Answer this if you truely are arguing in good faith, otherwise, you are just denying, deflecting, spinning.
I am upset because i had to return my IP4 because of a design flaw, and for what is essentially a defective product and am now using my old 3g.
I disagree. Somebody through Apple under the bus when this story first broke and Apple is standing up for themselves. I am highly impressed!
Face it Apple, you tried to be "magical" and "revolutionary" and think outside the box and it bit you in the ass. Just admit you screwed up and quit dragging other companies into this.
Thank god I passed on this phone and went with Sprint (win) and the EVO (more win).
Thank god I passed on this phone and went with Sprint (win) and the EVO (more win).
I'd be more impressed if Apple owned up to the issue. They gave out a fix, why not admit this is an Apple problem instead of denying, deflecting and spinning ?
A simple "big oops on our part" instead these dumb videos would go a long way.
By trying to point at other companies and say "oh look, they have it too!" when they don't?
That's ********. If Microsoft was doing this I doubt you'd praise them.
Nope, this is escalating the problem Apple is having. Next phase: the competitors show ads where I4 drops a call when a pinky touches the magical spot while their own phones happily keeps the connection on.
The strategy Apple chose achieves nothing but keeps the subject alive. Apple needs to realize it's their problem and fix it. Thus far they've only managed to dig their hole deeper and deeper.
So are you saying I was right and you were wrong ?
I see you never even started to address my point. Again for you, stay on track on this one : All units are affected. Exchanges won't help. All 100% of iPhone 4s have the issue, a 20 dbm drop when touched in the specific spot which happens to be right where you place your finger or palm in a natural way, as shown in Apple ads. Not all users are affected by a 20 dbm drop in signal because of their geographical location.
Other phones require covering multiple, larger areas in order to achieve a similar phenomenom that isn't quite as severe. The Nexus 1, the major offender drops 10 dbm, which is 8 times less severe (decibels are a logarithmic scale) than iPhone 4.
This is the issue my friend. If there really are iPhone 4s that don't exhibit this issue, what is different about them, when were they put into production and why is Apple not offering exchanges ? Answer this if you truely are arguing in good faith, otherwise, you are just denying, deflecting, spinning.
Do you own a iPhone 4? You seem to know a lot more then most owners of iPhone 4s. My iPhone 4 works fine even when touching the sweet spot in a bad signal area, the bars will drop but I dont lose calls or data. When Im in a good signal Area I cannot get the bars to drop at all. I use my iPhone 4 without a case and can say the reception has been better then my other iPhones (original,3G & 3GS). Can you tell me how your iPhone 4 has performed?
Well, I bet money that Droid didn't drop the call...
Oh, and the iPhone just needs 1 finger to touch the wrong spot...
Not a whole hand squeezing it to death...
And again, the Droid is in an EXTENDED NETWORK
The iPhone has it's problem in its HOME NETWORK!
It's like the maps all over again, sorry AT&T,...
The Truth Hurts...
Ok, enough is enough! Who are you, Steve Jobs?!?! I love my iPod, my MacBook and my MacBook Pro, but there IS a problem with the iPhone!!! They admitted as much. I own a Droid X and this video is B.S. Not only that, but what have they done to this phone beforehand? Why is there no 3G signal showing (this is Verizon, remember... my iPhone stopped working the moment I walked into work. My Droid works in the middle of the office, and back in the warehouse, which is completely sheathed in corrugated metal)? Stop being an apologist and an Apple mouthpiece. Rave about their many awesome products all you want, but STOP telling everyone this phone is perfect when it's far from it, or at the VERY least, stop doing it every 5 comments.
I think in the end it all comes down to this:
1) Hold the iPhone 4 without the bumper case in your left hand in the natural way you hold such a portable phone and the reception quality promptly nosedives.
2) Hold a Blackberry, HTC "smartphone," or the Motorola Droid series cellphone in the natural way on your left hand and the reception quality drops not at all or significantly less than the iPhone 4.
This proves that Apple has a hardware problem with the iPhone 4 and it needs to be addressed NOW in hardware even with the free bumper case. And Apple's reaction to the cellphone issue is--in my humble opinion!--getting almost as bad as the reaction of BP to the Deepwater Horizon oil spill.
1) Hold the iPhone 4 without the bumper case in your left hand in the natural way you hold such a portable phone and the reception quality promptly nosedives.
2) Hold a Blackberry, HTC "smartphone," or the Motorola Droid series cellphone in the natural way on your left hand and the reception quality drops not at all or significantly less than the iPhone 4.
This proves that Apple has a hardware problem with the iPhone 4 and it needs to be addressed NOW in hardware even with the free bumper case. And Apple's reaction to the cellphone issue is--in my humble opinion!--getting almost as bad as the reaction of BP to the Deepwater Horizon oil spill.
WOW, you surveyed 6.66666667 × 10-6 of the market (based on 3,000,000 sold)? Something tells me that is no where near enough to be meaningful.
+1.
They could've defused the situation but instead they chose to start an arms race. Worst chess move ever because now they've left the queen exposed. If one of the attacked competitors chooses to respond in the manner you described above, Apple has nowhere to go. No other phone can be knocked out by the 'pinky swear'. Any response on Apple's part would amount to little more than "nuh-uh!".
and what ever happened to "the bar display means nothing since every company uses different algorithms." just because it dropped 3 bars does not mean it had the same signal loss as the iphone 4.