Ok, Apple fanboys who support all this video "evidence" - explain my vid, I'm not clasping the phone, I'm touching it with one finger - show me another smart phone where you can do this, the test is pretty conclusive, look about 3/4 of the way through and you can see I can stop the upload and restart instantly by touching it, with one finger. It's a flaw, other phones don't have it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTtpDo7Mefw
There is NO REASON in putting the finger on the antenna, when you know where it is.
Your video is pointless.
That is an antenna, if you touch it, you attenuate/detune the signal. Simple like that.
Actually it isn't easy. For most it actually takes 2 hands. I suspect Apple searched to find a person with hands the size of Lebron James to make this video. The key is the long index finger up at the top left. The Droid X is a long phone (remember Steve's derisive comment about it being a Hummer). And it has antennas both at the bottom and the top (novel concept...considering function in the design of a product). One has to block both of them to affect the signal. One needn't just hold the phone, one must do it in a way that the long index finger stretches all the way to the top left of the phone, rides over the ridge that Motorola designed into the phone to provide for a good grip without covering the top antenna, and then actually extend over the top of the phone.
and now being an ugly brick is a feature ?
The video shows an human being , not an alien. And he is comfortably holding the Droid X with a single hand.
And with all that Apple could only show lost bars. Unlike the iP4 where you can find video after video showing calls being dropped with the Death Tickle.
This is FALSE and you know it.
They are showing signal drop, and you know perfectly that when bars go from 4 to ZERO your Droid X will drop calls and connection.
PCMag.com did a pretty even handed comparison of Smartphone signal retention. They still did not focus on dropped calls (I guess it is too difficult to deal with the varying signal strengths in an equitable fashion, and they didn't want to double penalize the iP4 both for its poor design and its poor choice of carrier). They found that the iP4 had big issues, as we all know. Other Android phones were closer (one had as much as -16 dB drop...vs. the Annantech measured -24 dB for the iP4). Most Androids showed less than -10 dB drop. The Droid X took 2 HANDS, and only showed a -11 dB drop! And even with the two handed strangle, the signal was still a very strong -63 dB (most iP4 owners would, I think, give their left arm for that type of signal strength).
"Applying the death grip to the Motorola Droid X can be difficult, as it has antennas at both the top and bottom of the phone. We used two hands on this larger phone and saw the numbers fluctuate quite a bit,going from -52 to -63dbm"
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2366777,00.asp
In comparison to this, Apple's trumped up Droid X video is a new low for even Apple.
that comparison is just ridiculous, because it shows signal attenuation but it says NOTHING about antenna sensitivity. iPhone 4 antenna is more prone to attenuation, being external, but it has a much better signal to noise ratio, so it can manage to keep connections at a substantially lower signal strength.
And that genius of a journalist tested phones in a strong signal area (-50 / -60 dB) where the signal drop is negligible. That review is a joke, and people quoting it don't know what are we speaking about.
It better for PcMag to keep reviewing Windows crapbooks ...
No, YouTube videos only count when they are credible. One needs to consider whether or not the source(s) has(have) a vested interest, whether the source has a history of misleading behavior, how many corroborating videos there are, how many contradictory videos there are, etc. In this case Apple has several billion dollars in vested interest...probably more than any video posted on any side. So you have to question its veracity. Second, considering how, by Apple's own admission, for years Apple's software mislead iPhone users to think that their signal strength was stronger than it actually was, one has consider that Apple might not be above "manipulating" a video to slam a competitor that was eating their lunch. Third, as you can see from the link above, there are more credible videos showing the opposite of Apple's. So taken together, Apple's video is less than credible, and deserves to be discounted.
in my opinion an apple RF engineer is MUCH MORE RELIABLE than a "mister no one" on YouTube...
Apple isn't manipulating any video, because they know that Nokia, Rim or HTC will sue them in a flash.
Nokia, RIM and HTC just released a bunch of PR bs about Apple, nothing more, because the know absolutely well that apple is saying the truth about ANY phone behavior.
That is a personal experience not shared by me and many other posters on this site and the Apple forums. It is like saying that it is easy to drive around backwards looking out the rear window of your car when you can't see through your windscreen. You can do it. Not very natural. But you can do it.
The key difference between the iP4 and the Droid X is that the iP4 has its Death Spot in a very common location to hold the phone, and the slightest touch can drop a call under not-all-that-rare signal conditions for ATT. And there is no tactile warning that one is touching the Death Spot. In contrast, the Droid X requires that 2 spots be covered to even lose any signal, and it has the ridge at the top that provides a natural location to rest ones finger so that the top antenna isn't covered. That makes it easy to avoid the top antenna. And in cases where touching the top antenna is unavoidable, they also provide a bottom antenna. Droid X = good phone design....iP4 = pretty phone design.
you are just trying to justify your new toy. Nothing more.
You are right: with the iPhone you know perfectly well WHERE is the sensible point, so avoid touching it is stupid easy.
I think he is comparing phones on the Android mobile operating system to phones on iOs. Much like the comparison between OSX and Windows. I think that the Poster is suggesting that, in the long run, Apple's arrogance and disrespect for their customers will relegate them to a niche market share, the same way Apple struggles to get above 5% of the US PC market to Windows ca. 90%, and reach 10% worldwide vs. Window 85%. You can whine all you want about 1 phone on 1 carrier, but that is Apple's choice (well, actually 3 phones tiered by memory size on many different carriers worldwide..just one in the US). Google has decided that their customers are not brain dead. They can make their own decisions. The result is a vibrant technology platform that has already overtaken iOs by many measures, and, the poster is suggesting, will turn the iPhone into a niche boutique product much like Macs.
There will always be Apple fanboys who will buy iOs no matter its flaws. And Apple-bashers who won't buy from the fruit...ever. And the rest of us who will buy Apple products in those (too rare) cases when their price is reasonable and quality is good. In the case of the iPhone4, it doesn't work. No matter how much the good Steve tries to trump up misleading videos against other phones, if you want solid call connections and no dropped calls under anything but the best signal conditions, stay away from the iP4. And if you want solid call quality, great sound quality, on a fast phone with great video quality, the Droid X is a great choice.
This coming from a person who owned and returned an iP4 that would drop 10% of its calls, and who has owned a Droid X for 2 days (covering about 50 phone calls...none dropped).
lol, defending Google policy ....
The same company who basically "killed" their King, aka Nexus One, after six months.
Keep buying your Android craphones, if you like it: there will be another one next month, and another 5 in august, and 3 in September, and so on ...
163738 phones, all different, and a messy os due to this fragmentation, with different UI from brand to brand.
Sure, it is what I want for my smartphone ....
This coming from a person who owned and returned (actually reselled) a Nexus One and that DONT KNOW WHAT A DROP CALL IS, using an iPhone since it's launch in 2007, but not using a crappy network ...
