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Apple Takes on Droid X With Latest Smartphone Antenna Video
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But you CAN'T take back the 2 year contract you sign.. which is what is so stupid with phones.
I would love to try a phone out if i could buy it without the contract. because honestly a $700 phone is a lot cheaper then a $200 one with a 2 year contract that will cost me 2400 over the 2 years
But you can't, so your stuck with it if you buy it...
See my post above, because people are stuck with AT&T contracts
I thought you were joking here, but you seem to be serious in that post. You have 30 days to cancel the phone and the contract.
LOL looks like you used those LEC flash for the same thing I use them for.
They make a pretty good flash light. I use the LED flash on my blackberry 8900 all the time as a flash light.
Now those LED flashes are rather worthless I think as a flash.
Interesting
i cannot remember the full contents of my contract, will have to look mine up - I am now most curious about what the procedure would be if there was a problem with the phone...
Does anyone know if there is really no part of the AT&T contract which provides for the handset having a fault or not being fit for its intended purpose?
EDIT: at least there seems to be a cooling off period then:
See my post above, because people are stuck with AT&T contracts
i cannot remember the full contents of my contract, will have to look mine up - I am now most curious about what the procedure would be if there was a problem with the phone...
Does anyone know if there is really no part of the AT&T contract which provides for the handset having a fault or not being fit for its intended purpose?
EDIT: at least there seems to be a cooling off period then:
But you CAN'T take back the 2 year contract you sign.. which is what is so stupid with phones.
I would love to try a phone out if i could buy it without the contract. because honestly a $700 phone is a lot cheaper then a $200 one with a 2 year contract that will cost me 2400 over the 2 years
But you can't, so your stuck with it if you buy it...
Well I'm mainly talking from the UK perspective where you do have a 14 day 'cooling off' period to change your mind (although only if you bought online, not in store). However, sim free from Apple would have a 30 day return window.
How is this different from the (current) "Return -undamaged- free of charge before 30 days"?
See my post above, because people are stuck with AT&T contracts
Well, if there were still 16GB/32GB 3GS units on stock that wouldn't be a problem. The 3GS still rocks
Visit any Apple Store and you'll see them. I have been to 2 stores and was amazed at the number of people returning and complaining.
It is devastating.
People need to understand that iPhone 4 has "short circuit" issue. It has NOTHING to do with how you hold the phone. End Of!
Average user won't get that, which means apple will get away with it... This world is going down
You are so gullible. "short circuit" issue.
But you CAN'T take back the 2 year contract you sign.. which is what is so stupid with phones.
I would love to try a phone out if i could buy it without the contract. because honestly a $700 phone is a lot cheaper then a $200 one with a 2 year contract that will cost me 2400 over the 2 years
But you can't, so your stuck with it if you buy it...
Why are you spreading this misinformation. It is pretty easy to prove this is 100% not true. So why did you not even bother to find out yourself before not only making such a ridiculous statement, but telling other people over and over to look at you saying it.
You are 100% wrong.
Visit any Apple Store and you'll see them. I have been to 2 stores and was amazed at the number of people returning and complaining.
No need to make things up.
The whole idea of these videos is dumb. Sure you can make phones lose signal by holding them extremely tight. That's not what the real issue is though. The iPhone 4 loses signal with a finger touching a specific spot. It has nothing to do with a death grip. This whole death grip video collection is nothing more than Apple attempting to make this look like a common issue and attempting to justify not having a recall of iPhone 4. The iPhone 4 signal issue is completely different than all other video examples that have been given. The videos seem more like an excuse for failure than an attempt at addressing an issue.
I think it's great that so many people have extra cash to throw Apple anything they make. It helps the economy, and gives Apple more opportunity to make things that are actually useful.
I'm VERY thankful for this forum for allowing people to share their perspectives on all things Apple. I might have been fooled into downgrading my excellent 3GS without the truth shared here.
I'm VERY thankful for this forum for allowing people to share their perspectives on all things Apple. I might have been fooled into downgrading my excellent 3GS without the truth shared here.
No its not. It is like asking why are you holding a piece of paper you are writing on with your left handed. IE the pen would be in your left hand and you would hold the paper with your right hand.
You are just holding the phone. The manipulation would be done with the dominant hand. That is why I ask the question. I am right handed and hold the phone in my left hand because I use my right hand to manipulate the screen.
Think about one of your hands being a mouse pad and the other manipulating a mouse. If you were left handed, which hand would manipulate the mouse and which hand would be the mouse pad?
Uh, no. I hold the phone in my right hand, and push buttons with my right thumb. Maybe some people waste both hands to use a tool, though.
wat?
You can't manage to manipulate your phone with your left thumb? Some of us do things with our phone that require more than a single thumb to maneuver. Perhaps an iPhone is overkill for someone like you.
So touching the iPhone 4 only impacts upload speeds?
Also how come nobody tests the phone making phone calls?
Simple point is, you should be able to hold the phone in any "normal" way and not have an issue. No-one holds phone's like in Apple's Droid video now do they? Yet you can't hold the iP4 in your left hand comfortably or even in your right hand without being wary of where you put your fingers if you're not in a strong 3G area (I just have 3G off on mine so it works without being an issue until I change it).
No, it affects upload instantly, but does affect download after a few more seconds... Here's my initial vid demonstrating that better (but wrong orientation and in darker part of room so I could place the phone so I'd only have to touch it with one finger) - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ff6RBiClfEI
You’re acting like this is a serious issue for most people. It’s not. I don’t worry about how I hold my phone, even in low signal areas.
Arguing about this is pointless. The proof is in the pudding, and the pudding doesn’t have any long lines returning the iPhone 4. Trust me, if there were long lines, the media would jump all over this story, since the BP oil drama seems to have waned, now that they’ve effectively capped it.
So if you hold a phone like a retard/grip it tightly (very unnatural) it loses a few bars, and keeps the call. Place a metal object to bridge the lower left side of an iPhone 4, or touch it lightly with your finger, or even holding iPhone 4 normaly drops the call, and displays "Searching"
Can someone explain how those are the same?
I see from your signature that you have a 3GS - how can you say that the iPhone 4 drops calls and signal with simply a finger if you don't even have the phone and cannot verify whether this is actually the case? It's just not true. I'm in a low signal area and what you describe is utterly false - simply touching the spot or bridging the two antennas does NOT cause signal drop. I have to grip it and cover the antenna gap with a substantial portion of my hand in order to see the signal drop.
You're making a lot of assumptions and then stating them as facts. Please do not spread "rumor" unless you can verify this yourself. I'm in a 2-bar signal area and what you describe does not happen.
Visit any Apple Store and you'll see them. I have been to 2 stores and was amazed at the number of people returning and complaining.
You are full of ****, I was at the Apple store by my house here in So.Cal yesterday and did not hear or see anyone taking i4 back and several workers said that nobody has been returning with antenna specific issue. In fact I watched a person ask about the issue, the employee showed him the "sweet spot", explained what is being said and how you do it then he ordered one, theyre sold out because no one wants one?. After that I watched people telling him how much they liked their i4s and that they have not been experiencing the so called issue! I know you are full of ****, because I also have a friend that works at an Apple store in another city and he said the returns are no worse then any other maybe even less! From what I saw and heard in the Apple store I know this guy is not truthful, he probably saw one guy returning and complaining, but I doubt it! Smells like ****!!!
Bwahaha... Oh, nice comeback. Yes, this iPhone is wasted technology for us one-handers!
You should buy TWO of them, power-user! Oh, but then you'd have to use your toes on the other one. Sorry.
Actually if you understand anything about business and public relations, this is Apple's way of showing the majority of the buying public that signal issues are not unique to the iPhone 4. Just because you don't agree with how they grip things is irrelevant. This is damage control and also vanquishing any notion that other phones don't have this problem.
I think Apple is doing a great job with this. And before you go off, I can hold my iPhone 4 just fine in either hand without having experienced any dropped calls. In a low signal area the bars will drop a little, again not unlike most other smartphones. The one finger thing is utter baloney, no way I can replicate that on my iPhone under any signal conditions.
Why don't you people just return your phones and quit yer bitchin'?