Please say that you are joking
They look like WindoZZzz 95 icons to me
The calculator icon to give you just ONE example, cannot even begin to compare them...
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Apple Takes on Droid X With Latest Smartphone Antenna Video
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Please say that you are joking
They look like WindoZZzz 95 icons to me
The calculator icon to give you just ONE example, cannot even begin to compare them...
Well that would be ok, except that my iPhone 3G which has an "inferior" antenna does not recreate the same symptoms no matter what I do to it in the same location. Apple have made a worse "phone" regardless of the other toys they've thrown in. The vibrate is also too weak to hear on a desk in a room with any background noise and for now there is the proximity sensor issue (minor points and one will be fixed no doubt) so it seems they've lost focus on the phone part in their attempts to recreate a smaller iPad.
As stated before, it's not easy to return something one's never owned.
How come I feel that "ANDROID" users and "Windows Phone 7" users are coming here to rile shxt up? Maybe cause they're jealous they're stuck with a POS, and can't afford a real phone .
Yes, it is:
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Thank for the clarification, Aggie - a risk-free trial nonetheless.Ah, you changed the 14 while I was posting.
The only penalty is you still have to pay two months usage (or at least one .I never paid much attention I just know there were lots of threads complaining about it). They dont just let you not pay your bill. Plenty of threads about that though, and plenty of complaints about having to pay even that.
Bottom line is youre not stuck with the 4 or AT&T if you dont want to be.
I think the discussion is driven by the same schemes you'll encounter in other areas of life.
Apple has become a big, big player in the business. It changed from David to Goliath. It's the new ugly Google that throws developers in slavery and defines new markets. Apple appears to be so terribly invincible, all the do is a new success, their stocks rise and rise. The goodlooking guy in the movie always uses a mac to save both the world and the sweet macusing girl.
Now remember how sometimes boys tend to identify themselves with their toys (I think women are not involved in this stupid debate), think of the two decades of Windows vs Apple platform war still in peoples heads.
And suddenly the giant has become vulnerable and the crowd gathers as it has the public opinion on their side. Even superserious consumer report made a joke about Apple: did you see the 50year old physicsstudent with the ugly grey roll of ducttape in the cr-movie? "There's one way to fix the problem"and after putting a fat piece of ducttape onto the slit: "but it won't look so nice afterwards" har, har!
Apple-design, har, har!
Applehaters, no matter why they dislike the company, their products or the people who use them, had to shut up for a long time. Now they can join the chorus. And after a while they will become silent again, when the rage is over and Apple despite all the shouting is still a successful company.
Maybe the Droid X and a few others have this issue but my HTC EVO does not and I have tried holding all different ways. Not a problem here. But surprised that Apple would go down this road instead of just admitting they have an issue and fix it..
Also when will all of the news about drops signals go away and get back on board with real tech news. Boring.......
Also when will all of the news about drops signals go away and get back on board with real tech news. Boring.......
There is something to be said about the basic elegance that was the classic OS. Somewhere around here I still have a copy of System 9... (came with my PowerPC G4 so many moons ago).
It somewhat reminds me of how Microsoft kept trying to make the Windows UI "prettier" to compete with OS X, since most people will judge based upon pretty colors and effects. Even now, when we do Windows XP builds at work, I still set it for the Windows 9x/2000-style UI. Maximum performance anyone? ;D
Well, a close friend and a few co-workers have picked up Droid X's. I've tried to replicate the video's effect of lowering the antenna signal via an identical grip, but wasn't able to on my friend's phone.
I'll give it a try on Monday with the co-workers' phones. It'll be in a different region of the Phoenix metropolitan area, so maybe it'll yield different results.
Please say that you are joking
They look like WindoZZzz 95 icons to me
The calculator icon to give you just ONE example, cannot even begin to compare them...
I guess we've finally figured out what's most important: Calculator icons.
I perfectly understand Apple on this one. First an interesting article from IEEE on the topic http://spectrum.ieee.org/podcast/telecom/wireless/how-bad-is-the-iphone-4s-antenna-problem. The issue is that iPhone 4 is even better than iPhone3Gs regardless the grip you hold the phone!
Apple is not pointing fingers. It is just saying, that is the daily bread of a mobile phone: our hands are damping the reception levels. So, stop that nonsense. I wonder if RIM, Nokia, are all behind this campaign against Apple. We will never know, but I would not be surprised.
Apple is not pointing fingers. It is just saying, that is the daily bread of a mobile phone: our hands are damping the reception levels. So, stop that nonsense. I wonder if RIM, Nokia, are all behind this campaign against Apple. We will never know, but I would not be surprised.
Well I know the girls love theirs in vibrate mode
I've actually seen videos of this on youtube LOL!
I do not think anyone is an Apple hater. People may hate having to pay too much, they may hate being told what they can and cannot have on their phone, they may hate being told their morals are crap for liking pron, they may hate not being able to watch streaming TV shows for free, they may hate not being able to use their phone as a free hotspot to type posts going 110 mph like I am doing this very instant on my MBA, and they may hate having to pay for services such as finding their phone and remote wipe that are offered for gratis on other platforms. But I do not think they hate APPLE per se. At least I don't.
You Are revealing for what you are, finally: a fandroid here to bash Apple and justify his choice.
As I told you 35383 times, the iPhone 4 external antenna allows to manage calls at a significant lower signal strength, so it compensates for the attenuation problem. It is called "better signal to noise ratio", but keep ignoring it. No problem.
Apple demonstrated that basically every phone lose bars when held. Nothing more, nothing less.
Show me that you can make a call at -121 dB, as anandtech proved on iPhone 4, with an internal antenna.
It's a trade off: sensitivity for attenuation.
Once you know what spot to avoid, the iPhone 4 is indeed a better PHONE than previous models.
Read again the anandtech review, where they clearly stated they could make calls when 3GS couldn't ...
iPhone 4 is a better phone than 3GS. In every aspect.
If that is true that our hands are damping the reception then Apple failed, Putting the antenna on the outside of the phone. Most Cell phones have the antenna on the inside of the phone and in-turn there are no problems from human contact. Buffered by plastic. Heck remember the old cell phones with the pull out antenna they had a rubber coating. Bad design thats all.
In which business? In terms of corporation value, Apple's exceeded Microsoft several times in its history. In terms of computer marketshare, it's hovered around that magic 10% mark before. In terms of music player, it's been Goliath for a decade. In 1984 Apple produced an absolutely brilliant commercial to counter IBM (which hasn't been in the PC business for quite a while now, guys!), and people still talk of Apple as if it's Anya Major.
Begging question.
One of the many things I've learnt on the Internet is that anyone who doesn't identify themselves as a woman is assumed to be a man. I'm yet to decide whether to take the amusing feminist viewpoint that men treat tech as an extension of their members and exclusively their domain, or the amusing misogynist viewpoint that women are attention seekers who will inevitably point out their gender.
Apple's never really taken on Windows. Actually, no-one's really properly taken on Windows on the desktop. It's a shame.
I conjecture that everyone posting on this forum likes something about Apple, otherwise they wouldn't be here. And you push for higher standards from things you like, not things you hate.
As infamous as Microsoft is at this, I have to say the Fandroids take evangelism to dizzying new heights. Mention iPhone anywhere on the Web and prepare for a brutal mob shoutdown.
Wait until Windows Phone 7 (or whatever they're calling it this week) hits the marketplace and the MS astroturfers flood the Web. Fandroids vs. Winbots in an astroturfing battle to the death. It's gonna be epic. Their shared loathing of Apple will no longer be enough to unite them. I'd better hit Costco and stock up on popcorn...
The 4 is not better than the 3G "under any circumstances" - I know, I have both. The 4 has dropped calls and had data stop as in my video at very top of page - things I've never had or even been able to recreate on my 3G. I don't hate Apple and I'm not paid to be here.
You Are revealing for what you are, finally: a fandroid here to bash Apple and justify his choice.
As I told you 35383 times, the iPhone 4 external antenna allows to manage calls at a significant lower signal strength, so it compensates for the attenuation problem. It is called "better signal to noise ratio", but keep ignoring it. No problem.
Apple demonstrated that basically every phone lose bars when held. Nothing more, nothing less.
Show me that you can make a call at -121 dB, as anandtech proved on iPhone 4, with an internal antenna.
It's a trade off: sensitivity for attenuation.
Once you know what spot to avoid, the iPhone 4 is indeed a better PHONE than previous models.
Read again the anandtech review, where they clearly stated they could make calls when 3GS couldn't ...
iPhone 4 is a better phone than 3GS. In every aspect.
Good for Anandtech, they can magic my straight-to-voicemail calls I keep missing back to me then, since I never had this problem in the same location on my 3G this must be some great new feature I'm not understanding. I can stop calls/data on my iP4 by touching it, I can't on my 3G, that's not better in every way...
Every cell phone I've owned - Nokia, Motorola, Samsung - has cautioned against holding the phone in a particular manner (usually covering where the antenna is) so as to not interfere with the signal. I don't get what all the commotion is about.
It's because people are sick of hearing about your iPhone. Oh, hold on, let me check my iPhone. Wait, one second, I bet I can look it up on my iPhone.
We're all tired of it.
You know what I like about Android users? They just say phone. It's never MY DROID, or MY HTC INCREDIBLE, MY EVO, or MY NEXUS ONE, it's always just a phone.
Never MY IPHONE.
Biased much?
I own both as well.
Statements made such as "under any circumstances" are revealing.
All those phones are just generic android phones, that is why. They are just a phone.
So, what does the “low key” in your user name refer to?
Relax, no one cares what the phone is called. I call mine “My Precious."
Not better for you.
Because there are many out there whose actual experience does not match yours:
http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/13/yes-the-iphone-4-is-broken-no-the-iphone-4-is-not-broken/
I think you missed the point if the quotes, they were in reply to a post saying the iP4 was better under all circumstances that the 3G (or something along those lines). I was not saying the 3G beats the iP4 under all circumstances - I'm sure it is better in certain areas but it can also perform worse when you simply hold it normally in your hand (without contorting your grip - something I'm sure Apple would have a field day with if you had to do it on a competitor's product).
This is perfect. Droid is the one that has a national TV spot alluding to the iPhone antenna problem. I think it is completely fair and reasonable to point out the identical problem for a phone that has tried to place itself on the "high ground" of not having this problem. This antenna problem for Apple is SO blown out of proportion that every one need to be informed that it is not unique to the Apple product.
Let's see Consumer Reports put our a "not recommended" for the Droid product.
Better for me. No return will be happening in my case.
Let's see Consumer Reports put our a "not recommended" for the Droid product.
Better for me. No return will be happening in my case.