Opposing opinions can only stalemate or compromise by nature.
When you say on the contrary you're supposed to say stuff back.
No, I have a semi-closed environment which I can hack at using external tools.
It's not really up to me. The iPhone is a computer if the masses identify it as a computer - not just tech enthusiasts who like to think of it as one or particular domain experts who can fit their specialist definition to one. As MD says, it is "impossible to actually win".
Computers interfacing with computers - what a concept.
Yet it's powerful enough to run and process 'on-the-fly' speech translation software: Jibbigo iPhone Translation Software
Semi-open, is open, nonetheless.
Regardless, the iPhone performs the basic functions of a computer, has its own processor and RAM, a 'large enough' multi-touch display, and runs a multitude of productivity applications, on the device itself.
Ditto.
Why not make the same argument about a microphone attached to a radio transmitter? Surely you weren't using the Dragon example of iPhone computing power because it has the ability to store and forward packets of data?
I haven't used it, but since you know Spanish, quite. From this and a dozen other reviews, looks like the same basic problems as any other decade-old translator. And I've not seen any evidence that it can recognise, let alone translate, fluent paragraphs in the style of Dragon. Ages ago I had a tutor whose research was phonetics with a special interest in machine translation, and he'd delight in distracting me with tales of the simplicity and inadequacy of the principles of machine translation beyond set phrases and sentences mastered in the first few weeks of human learning.
Only in the sense that a half-empty glass has no liquid in it.Semi-open, is open, nonetheless.
As does a mouse trap.
Results in from your survey?
Since both a microphone and radio transmitter are incapable of displaying pages which can be easily edited, providing lists of suggested words directly on text, or performing the basic tasks of a word processor, this suggestion is senseless.
Nevertheless, it is usable, and operates solely on the iPhone. The next update will likely take advantage of the iPhone 4's new processor, improving performance significantly.
Your point?
As does a MacBook Pro.
I'll let you know as soon as they're in.
Excellent points, indeed.
How did you manage to conclude that? I'm saying that the ability to send audio packets across a network doesn't imply a computer. Let "a=>b" be false in general. Then it does not follow that "a=>not(b)".
How did you manage to conclude that? Unlike iPhone, Xserve is designed with general purpose local and network access in mind. You can connect any USB keyboard. There's an onboard GT 120 with Mini DisplayPort connector. Then there's Firewire, USB host, two gigabit Ethernet, and (gods bless them) even RS232.
Your statement was, "With Dragon Dictate, I can speak and transcribe +130/minute." You were alluding to the iPhone being powerful because it can be used for continuous dictation, even though it cannot except as a peripheral. You did not assert, "With Dragon Dictate I can see a list of suggested words and perform the basic tasks of a word processor."
If you want to look at it that way round: a sip does not quench thirst.
So? What's wrong with an analogue computer?MorphingDragon said:
Nonsense. The analogue dual superhet receiver sitting next to me does a lot of processing of incoming signals before some vaguely intelligible voice from across the world comes out of the excellent 25-year-old speaker. There's the basic mixing to switch to IFs, variable width filtering and various options for demodulation. A slow AGC will be using capacitance to effectively remember previous signal level so volume does not vary too quickly. Peripherals include an antenna tuning unit.
Perhaps you ought to read through the topic, as you've taken what I've said out of context and responded omitting quantifiers implied by "in general". Let's first give another example:
In what way is, say, the present voltage output from an IF circuit not a datum? In what way is retaining this information over a short time for slow AGC correction not (ephemeral) storage of that datum?MorphingDragon said:
Are you trolling? You started off arguing via a commonly held misconception of computing students and practictioners, but now you're coming out with comments which suggest much less knowledge about technology. From a technician's PoV, analogue computing is well defined and has a history all of its own. Meanwhile, a layperson couldn't care less whether the computer uses discrete voltage levels or a continuous variation.
