Apple Taking Action After Students Worked Overtime to Assemble iPhone X at Foxconn

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  1. MacRumors macrumors bot


    Apr 12, 2001

    Apple and its manufacturing partner Foxconn have confirmed instances of students working overtime to assemble the iPhone X, and both companies are now taking remedial action, as reported by the Financial Times.

    A technician inspecting iPhone components at a factory

    Apple conducted an audit and confirmed "instances of student interns working overtime at a supplier facility in China," according to the report. "We've confirmed the students worked voluntarily, were compensated and provided benefits, but they should not have been allowed to work overtime," it added.

    Foxconn said that "all work was voluntary and compensated appropriately," but admitted that the interns "did work overtime in violation of our policy," which reportedly prohibits interns working more than 40 hours per week.

    The statements from Apple and Foxconn come after six high school students told the Financial Times they routinely work 11-hour days assembling the iPhone X at Foxconn's factory in Zhengzhou, China.
    The students, aged 17 to 19, reportedly said they were told that a three-month stint at the factory was required "work experience" that they had to complete in order to graduate from Zhengzhou Urban Rail Transit School.

    Foxconn is believed to hire a significant number of seasonal workers each year to assemble the latest iPhone models in time for the busy holiday shopping season. The report, citing an anonymous Foxconn employee, said there can be up to 300,000 workers producing up to 20,000 iPhones per day.

    As part of its supplier responsibility efforts, Apple requires its manufacturing partners like Foxconn to limit working hours to no more than 60 hours a week, with a mandatory rest day once every seven days.

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  2. GadgetBen macrumors 6502a


    Jul 8, 2015
  3. Kaibelf macrumors 68020


    Apr 29, 2009
    Silicon Valley, CA
    Good on Apple for taking action, and I hope this also gets the attention of Wisconsin. As for the situation in China, that school should be investigated and that teacher jailed but it probably won’t happen.
  4. grobik macrumors member


    Mar 4, 2006
    Record profits. Apple is taking action yes, but they are also the company that will find another manufacturer if quotas are not met.
  5. WannaGoMac macrumors 68020


    Feb 11, 2007
    So sad that this level of specificity is necessary for working conditions to be "humane"
  6. Jades macrumors 6502

    Oct 15, 2012
    That’s China to you. Don’t understand why apple thinks they can make China like America
  7. davie18 macrumors regular

    Dec 29, 2010
    Doesn't that seem a low ratio of workers to phones made? Apple sell over 200 million iphones a year, which works out to 550,000 every day of the year.

    550,000/20,000 = 27.5. So 27.5*300,000 = 8,250,000 workers to keep up total demand at that rate.

    Surely there aren't over 8 million people making iphone?
  8. toph2toast macrumors 6502a

    Feb 24, 2011
    I'll be curious to see if there are additional developments with this story, since the students said they were forced (by their school) to work their, but Foxconn said all work was voluntary.

    I'm also wondering what specific remedial actions were taken.
  9. realeric macrumors 65816


    Jun 19, 2009
    United States
    Reality : China is the most richest contry in the world. USA has 20 trillion dollar debt.
  10. HJ24 macrumors regular

    Oct 14, 2011
    Why is a nearly Trillion dollar company allowing its supplier to have what basically sounds like child exploitation to and slave labor to occur. As much as Apple is better than many other companies in this regard, this shows they obviously have ways to go.
  11. davie18 macrumors regular

    Dec 29, 2010
    I don't think they have a choice do they? Do you think there is another manufacturer that can reliably make 200+ million iphones per year??
  12. BvizioN macrumors 601


    Mar 16, 2012
    Manchester, UK
    Quite rightly so. China have billions of people, is not that is short of work forces and no one should be pushed to do overtime.
  13. cardfan macrumors 68000

    Mar 23, 2012
    Sounds good to me. Teaches those children properly. I get my iphone on time. Win win.
  14. davie18 macrumors regular

    Dec 29, 2010
    so edgy
  15. cardfan macrumors 68000

    Mar 23, 2012
    True, they should do this in the US though. Lots of children would benefit..
  16. Hustler1337 macrumors 68000


    Dec 23, 2010
    London, UK
    That's only half the story, Apple isn't innocent in all this. They're the ones putting pressure on the likes of Foxconn to manufacture x amount of iPhones. This gets fed down the system and it's ultimately the workers who pay with poor pay packets, unreasonable working hours and poor working conditions.
  17. davie18 macrumors regular

    Dec 29, 2010
    So what do these chinese kids 'learn' exactly, by being forced to work in a factory to complete their totally unrelated studies?
  18. drewsof07 macrumors 68000


    Oct 30, 2006
    Better to beg forgiveness than miss a launch date?
  19. GrumpyMom macrumors 604


    Sep 11, 2014
    This is a problem for Apple, which chooses to have its manufacturing done in China and does not want its reputation and values sullied by child labor.

    It’s a bit unsettling knowing our iPhones could have been assembled by high school students. These kids must have some mad skills and a hell of a work ethic. It’s a bit intimidating that our own kids will be competing with these young people in an increasingly global economy.
  20. Digital Dude macrumors 6502

    Digital Dude

    Oct 12, 2008
    Arizona where freedom still means something
    Dang, I've been retired so dang long that I almost forgot about those 20-hour days' in the Army while on high profile assignments.
  21. cardfan macrumors 68000

    Mar 23, 2012
    Work ethic. They're learning.
  22. GrumpyMom, Nov 21, 2017
    Last edited: Nov 21, 2017

    GrumpyMom macrumors 604


    Sep 11, 2014
    I’m trying to figure out when they get to do their schoolwork if they are putting in 11 hour days. Damn!

    Some kids in America actually do put in crazy work hours. I know I did to earn money for college. But nobody forced me to do that. Economic necessity did. These kids were forced. *—Edit: Apple says they confirmed this was voluntary but the quote from one student indicates she was forced.
  23. Aluminum213 macrumors 68040


    Mar 16, 2012
    And this type of toxic attitude is why we have the problems we have

    Best part of all this? You don’t even work for Apple haha
  24. LukasValine macrumors regular


    Nov 5, 2013
    China’s dept is equal to about one third of their economy. The US isn’t the only country with debt.
  25. HiVolt macrumors 6502


    Sep 29, 2008
    Toronto, Canada
    This is Apple taking action ->> "Mr. Foxconn, please don't do it again, or better yet, don't get caught, wink wink!"

    The demand for the iPhone X was huge, who in their right mind thought that there wouldn't be of these stories?

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