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I agree. They better let users opt out of the cloud streaming. I want local control of my stuff. I remember the Microsoft cloud debacle when they lost customers data. The cloud went poof...bye-bye.

Maybe you’re missing something? This is a “value add.” It doesn’t replace the local file you get to download from iTunes.

There’s no way this will be ready for next week’s announcement. Maybe they’ll have it ready by September.
 
Having just recently subscribed to Crashplan which has been furiously uploading my 600GB+ of media and other documents during the past month, I have already been hit with extra bandwidth charges from my ISP.

It's a good idea, but in my opinion this could get very expensive!
 
Hmm wait isn't this called DOTTUNES and haven't I been using it for 2 years already... with full quality and video support which Apple won't enable?

Yeah I thought so. Yawn. Next.
 
I have a hard time believing that the music companies would get on board with a solution like this. And if they do, it will be so encumbered with strict copy protections that it will be more trouble than it's worth. I know people that do this already with their music by setting up media servers, so I can definitely see the value in it, but with a setup like this it's all too easy for people to share it with friends and families, even if they are restricted to the 5 computers like iTunes is now.

Plus cloud computing is great for urban areas, but there are huge chunks of the world where the internet is garbage still and outages are frequent. I for one would not want my media library to only live somewhere where I had to have wifi to get to it.
 
I have a 300GB Music Library.. So, will it upload all my songs? I hope I don't pay for that in my bandwidth. Good idea though.

Exactly what I was thinking. While it all sounds nice, this upload of several GB of data would rape my internet bill. I don't feel like paying extra for going over my bandwidth. Damn you Rogers!
 
Apple's going to have to buy some "pipes" here in the near future, more than likely some sort of wireless internet connection (4G, LTE, Wi-max, etc.). To be able to provide an end-to-end user experience would put them on a level all by themselves, something Microsoft, Google, AT&T, Comcast, or anyone else just can't compete with.

They'll be able to take "cloud" computing to a whole new level. And any military person will tell you that the you must own the skies to win the war.

Exactly. Somebody must think there is some upcoming technology to facilitate all this.

Reminds me of an article in an old science magazine. It predicted that we would have atomic powered 200mph cars and that there would be a separate, dedicated super-duper ultra freeway system built all around the country to handle those cars and speeds.

The point is that all this could have been done, but wasn't.
 
All these rumors. No matter what Apples announces, no one will be happy.
 
rumor

Random House, Simon Schuster? When I hear these are onboard I will believe it...
 
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Stuck in Australia on crap broadband that has small upload/download limits, I wouldn't be happy about a 100GB+ upload of my music library in the background!

And if it was just iTunes purchased music it's still a sizeable chunk, and really holds less value to me.
 
Over time I've probably lost 100-150 songs purchased through iTunes (many of them free from Pepsi, Single-of-the-Week promos, etc.). I'll be curious to see if this new service would essentially allow me access to those songs acquired through iTunes but no longer in my library -- even if just for streaming purposes.

I recently signed up for Lala and ran a similar experiment by uploading tracks from my library and deleting a few from my hard drive & local library. Pleasantly, Lala still showed them as long as they'd either been previously scanned by their downloader or purchased from Lala.
 
I think a lot of you are missing the point here. Apple is not uploading your music files to their servers. That would be ridiculous. Can you imagine the massive amounts of bandwidth and storage space that would be involved?

Apple will simply upload your library file. i.e. the XML file that holds a list of the files in your library. Then, the files that you own that are in the iTunes catalog will then be available for you to stream. Your iTunes purchased tracks as well as ripped tracks that iTunes carries will be available. Apple may also have acquired Lala's online catalog to add to the list.

Those of you wanting to stream your more esoteric original or indie tracks will most likely be out of luck.

EDIT:
After reading this post:
For those of you who haven't used LaLa, this is exactly how that service works. They have a little music uploader utility that does metadata / beat analysis on each song to determine if it is already part of the service or not, and then just tells LaLa that "yes, this person has this song, allow him to stream it." I only had to transfer ~1% of my library, if that.

The actual indexing took forever, but if iTunes does it in the background, then there should be no issues.

and also reading from the Lala FAQs
How do I add the music I already own to my collection?
To listen to the music you already own from your Lala collection, install the Music Mover software.

Music Mover will try to match songs on your computer that we have legally licensed. If a song on your computer matches Lala’s licensed catalog, it will be added to your online collection if it is matched. If your music is not matched you will need to use the Manual Upload mechanism available from your collection view under the My Collection dropdown menu in the upper left of that page.
I must acknowledge that it's possible Apple will actually allow uploading of portions of your library if the tracks aren't already in their catalog, however it wouldn't surprise me if Apple omitted this part of the service. That's still talking about quite a bit of storage. I guess we'll see.
 
I strongly believe Apple will allow you to store and stream your entire multi-100 GB itunes library online, whether songs are purchased through the iTunes Store or not; however, they will charge you for additional storage. I would expect the storage charges would be competitive with other online backup services.
 
Apple will simply upload your library file. i.e. the XML file that holds a list of the files in your library. Then, the files that you own that are in the iTunes catalog will then be available for you to stream. Your iTunes purchased tracks as well as ripped tracks that iTunes carries will be available. Apple may also have acquired Lala's online catalog to add to the list.

They’ll more to it than that. It would be super easy to pad the XML file with fake audio tracks.

I think it’ll involve “Genius” and may even be limited to iTunes purchased tracks only.

I strongly believe Apple will allow you to store and stream your entire multi-100 GB itunes library online, whether songs are purchased through the iTunes Store or not; however, they will charge you for additional storage. I would expect the storage charges would be competitive with other online backup services.

Yes, because Apple’s current online storage is such a deal. An extra 40GB of iDisk/Mobile Me storage is $99 per year. There’s no way Apple will be storing whole libraries. Mine consist of nothing but iTunes Store content and it’s almost 300GB. That’s well over $700 at Apple’s current iDisk upgrade pricing.
 
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Stuck in Australia on crap broadband that has small upload/download limits, I wouldn't be happy about a 100GB+ upload of my music library in the background!

And if it was just iTunes purchased music it's still a sizeable chunk, and really holds less value to me.

That's why iTunes will ask you if you want to do it...
 
This makes no sense. Most songs you have, iTunes has. It would make much more sense for Apple to cut a deal with the music labels and let you stream songs you own from iTunes rather than everyone uploading their libraries, and then allowing you to upload whatever songs you have that iTunes doesn't to a separate server space. Although, Apple would somehow have to verify you actually had those songs--otherwise you could just presumably add meta-data to iTunes making it look like you own music you don't. I don't know the solution--but if everyone uploads their music to a server you're going to have a massive redundancy of songs and seemingly waste a lot of space.

A very easy solution that would make lots of money for the music industry for very little effort: You tell them what music you rightfully own. You sign a form where you confirm that you are the rightful owner of that music, and pay a _small_ amount of money so your ownership is registered and you have access to the music without uploading anything. If you gain access to music that you don't have the rights to, that would be fraud.

So I have 200 LPs. Lets say I pay $200 for the rights to download the music in 256KBit AAC and the right to stream it. That's $200 dollars in their pocket which they wouldn't get otherwise. Now even if I lie and pretend that I have 200 more LPs, that's still another $200 for them without any effort.
 
They’ll more to it than that. It would be super easy to pad the XML file with fake audio tracks.

Good point. Then they'll use the proprietary iTunes Library file instead of the XML version to make counterfeiting difficult.

In any case there will be no massive multi-GB uploads involved. Mark my words.
 
iExtra

And what about an iExtra replacing iDVD ?

Now you can make the menu of your own personal video like iDVD did, but digital like the extras in the iTunes films. Then you can organize virtually, all your event with gorgeous menu in your apple TV and see it on you iPhone as well.
 
This will work for me. Nearly 98% of my library is iTunes purchased music. The rest is from the few CDs that I owned or in some cases cassettes converted from analog to digital that I couldn't purchase on iTunes.

I hope I can stream all my movies and TV shows too.
 
This is very good news. But it would have to be via WiFi, at least for now. This has the potential of crippling AT&T's already precarious 3G network.

True, but if the rumors are true then AT&T won't have to worry much longer about that. ;)

Here in Germany, there are tens of thousands of iPhones on networks other than T-Mobile, because they are all GSM.
 
Single Instance Storage (SIS)

When estimating the storage that Apple would need, note that many (or even most) tracks in
people's libraries are exact duplicates.

Apple wouldn't need to store (or even upload) each person's copy of a file - once one copy is in
the cloud all other references would simply point to the single instance.

SIS would greatly reduce the storage and upload bandwidth needed for a service like this.
 
For those of you who have used Lala, I am sure you are with me when I say I hope Apple doesn't ruin the service. I like being able to enjoy an entire song one time before purchasing... none of this 30-sec crap. Lala is fantastic in its current form... hint hint, Apple.
 
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