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Kinda sucks. I was hoping for it to come out next week too. I'm really looking forward to keychain.
 
What does this mean for the MacBook Pro refresh??
From previous OSX updates, those who buy a MacBook up to a month before are entitled to a free OSX upgrade when the new version is released. Is it possible that the new MacBook refresh may happen soon, with everyone who purchases a new system automatically entitled to a free Mavericks update??
 
not that i actually care either way but:



va•por•ware |ˈvāpərˌwer | noun

software or hardware that has been advertised but is not yet available to buy, either because it is only a concept or because it is still being written or designed.


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according to that (apple's) definition, mavericks and the new mac pro are both vaporware

First of all, that's not Apple's definition since Apple doesn't make a dictionary, they make a dictionary app which uses 3rd party dictionary data. I don't think anyone uses vaporware as in dictionary's definition, otherwise, basically everything is vaporware until being released so the word loses the whole meaning. Each point update is vaporware because they are still being "written or designed" for example. But we'd never say 10.8.5 is vaporware.

Wikipedia says a vaporware is:

"a term in the computer industry that describes a product, typically computer hardware or software, that is announced to the general public but is never actually released nor officially cancelled."

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I am very familiar with in-house development vs. ADC releases. No one aside from Apple engineers knows exactly when in-house development begins before each 10.X ADC release. I compared the known ADC developer/beta announcement releases to the GM/final 10.x launch, not the incremental updates.

Then why do you call that "development time"? Because as you said, it's not really the development time, which only Apple can know. That's why I said those numbers are bogus. Call it "time between first official DP and GM". Not development time, which means something completely different.

Who cares when it began in-house? Build number(s) are the best determinate for how many OS X beta's have been done in-house but no dates are released. This is about developer releases, no where did I mention in-house development so I don't know why you lost it.

You said development time, which means the time it took for Apple to develop the OS, which is wrong. I didn't lose it, you just used the wrong word.

Instead of getting all worked, take a deep breath and think long and hard before posting a comment. Not only did you completely misread my comment, your claims are incorrect.

Yes I did misread your comments because you said the first 3 releases happened in the same calendar year, which is wrong. All those releases happened in different years yet their announcement and release were in the same year. Another poster said that you may have meant it that way btw, to whom I replied.


Lastly, enough with the personal crap. There is no need to rudely insinuate I am an idiot. Show some respect to others, it goes a long way in life. :)

Sorry about that part.
 
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right. because apple doesn't advertise it prior to release. (as they've done with mavericks & the macpro)

it's fine though.. that's ur story and you're sticking to it. I get it

Pre-announcing something doesn't make it vaporware.

It'd only be vaporware if they never released it -_-
 
Pre-announcing something doesn't make it vaporware.

It'd only be vaporware if they never released it -_-

so nothing is vaporware because it may be released in the future?

it's being advertised and you can't buy it.. it's not roadmapped or announced or whatever-- it's being advertised. it's vaporware
big deal.. it's just a word. get over it.
 
so nothing is vaporware because it may be released in the future?

it's being advertised and you can't buy it.. it's not roadmapped or announced or whatever-- it's being advertised. it's vaporware
big deal.. it's just a word. get over it.

Is it that hard to understand the definition of this word? It's called vaporware if it's announced but delayed beyond reason and nobody knows if it's canceled or not.
 
haha, between the (to me) silly name, all the iPhone speculation, and OS7, I nearly forgot about Mavericks. I am excited for the new notifications and calendar
 
Is it that hard to understand the definition of this word? It's called vaporware if it's announced but delayed beyond reason and nobody knows if it's canceled or not.

i guess so.. i thought it was called vaporware when a company is saying "hey, don't go buy that other brand because look what we have!! (even though you can't actually buy it)"
 
i guess so.. i thought it was called vaporware when a company is saying "hey, don't go buy that other brand because look what we have!! (even though you can't actually buy it)"

Nah. 3.0 Ghz G5 was vaporware, because Jobs promised it and they didn't deliver.
 
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