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must be in the US, do you call september a summermonth?!?
in sweden this is a common way to look at a year:
winter: dec, jan, feb
spring: mar, apr, may
summer: jun, jul, aug
autumn: sep, oct, nov
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Apple Targeting Late October for OS X Mavericks Launch
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must be in the US, do you call september a summermonth?!?
in sweden this is a common way to look at a year:
winter: dec, jan, feb
spring: mar, apr, may
summer: jun, jul, aug
autumn: sep, oct, nov
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As per Apple's site:
Same here, but swapped, so spring is Sep/Oct/Nov.
"Due to the Earth's axial tilt, winter lasts from the winter solstice (typically December 22) to the vernal equinox (typically March 20), while summer lasts from the summer solstice (typically June 21) through to the autumnal equinox (typically September 21)." wikipedia
ah, well that's heliocentric hardcore!
(it has always bothered my OCD that "midsummer" isn't in the middle of the summer at all following the calendar and if following the tilt of the earth it's even more skewed - then "mid" means "start"?!!? weird...)
You are way off. First of all 10.0-10.3 were not released in the same calendar year. 10.0 was released in March 2001, 10.3 was released in October 2003, that's 2.5 years. Seriously, in this day and age, how can one be this much off?
10.0-10.1 6 months
10.1-10.2 11 months
10.2-10.3 14 months
Average, 10 months per release.
Your development times are completey bogus as well. You just listed the time taken from the announcement to public release, which has basically nothing to do with development time. Apple OS's as are all other major OS's are in development years before an announcement, let alone public release. We already know 10.9 was up and running almost a year ago from web traffic data.
It does not seem like OSX is taking a back burner. It makes sense to focus on IOS when Apple is getting ready to release the products that sell the most, especially around the holidays. Moreover, depending on Apple's product release schedule, it has released OSX before iOS.
From what I've seen in the forums here, there's still scrolling issues, battery life issue with PowerNap, AppleTV streaming and so on.
The apps (Notes, Game Center, etc) haven't been updated properly, they look half-arsed.
Doubt it, they'll maintain the iOS team completely while most of the OS X team goes back to Mavericks. The iOS team still have to work on the important first update that is going to be required to fix any critical bugs that folks will report when iOS 7 is released.
From what I saw, Notes didn't get the actual "swap". It got ripped apart and left alone, it's fugly as hell. Either they revert the change and work on this next year or they should finish all the UI work now.
Mavericks has been getting updates every two weeks, DP7 this week. iOS 7 haven't seen any updates since August 6 with the beta 5 update. Beta 6 doesn't count, it's just a hot fix release to fix the iTunes/iCloud purchases bug.
The last two DPs for Mavericks seriously improved it to be much stable, but it's not there yet, a lot of work still needs to be done. I'd say it needs another month of development work but that's not going to happen until iOS 7 is released first, when the most of the OS X team comes back to Mavericks.
Nobody here really knows how stable iOS 7 is now, we just have to wait for the GM build to see how much work they've done in a month and a half.
That's good and fine with me. Have you seen some of the newbies, I rather they stick with Windows and let us enjoy our Macs.
He probably did look the dates up, but mistook the minor updates for 10.1, which included 10.1.1, 10.1.2, and 10.1.3. Those all did occur within a year, but it was not a calendar year (January through December), but a regular year (12 months).
This is what I'm thinking too. Get iOS out there and people familiar with the visual style and then BAM, drop the new GUI into DP9 and 10 just before release.
Would be an interesting move and I can't see it happening.
I'm sitting on the fence as to how I feel about the redesign but maybe it'd be nice to see OS X get a huge visual overhaul for once.
I can't wait!!! But seriously though... Why did anyone think it was going to be released September 10th?
He's saying each version was released and announced in the same calendar year. For example, 10.3. was previewed and released in 2003.
derp.
Because it was my impression that this was their "Big Mac Apple Fall Media Event" where they would be introducing new things, and since the announcement has been made months ago, now is a prime time to announce the official release!! Yes!!
You thought the iPhone media event where they show off iPhone hardware and iPhone software was a big Mac event?
Given that the response and user experience to Windows 8 has been so poor, why would Apple want to make the UI for iOS and OS X similar?
Similar icons doesn't seem same UI. Apple has a very concrete philosophy. It believes that a tablet shouldn't have the same OS as a desktop computer and I totally agree with them.
Maybe, but that's useless data anyway. An OS could take 2 months from preview to release but if those 2 months are November and December, the release will be in the next calendar year.
All in all, quite irrelevant bunch of facts in the post.
You posted AND deleted. Apparently you have even more free time than the rest of us.
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I'm in California and this is the way I look at the seasons. But lately the seasons seem to have shifted forward. Everything is coming later.
Just like technically the new day starts at 12:00, but everyone of us calls it MID NIGHT. For me, day is 6am to 6 pm, midday or noon is 12pm midnight is 12 am. Makes sense!
not that i actually care either way but:
vaporware |ˈvāpərˌwer | noun
software or hardware that has been advertised but is not yet available to buy, either because it is only a concept or because it is still being written or designed.
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according to that (apple's) definition, mavericks and the new mac pro are both vaporware
iPhone is like more than half of Apple's income. Of course it's gonna get it's own event.
I referenced development time for each 10.X launch, i.e. WWDC release to GM/public launch, not the time bet GM/public launch and the next 10.x WWDC launch
I am very familiar with in-house development vs. ADC releases. No one aside from Apple engineers knows exactly when in-house development begins before each 10.X ADC release. I compared the known ADC developer/beta announcement releases to the GM/final 10.x launch, not the incremental updates.
Who cares when it began in-house? Build number(s) are the best determinate for how many OS X beta's have been done in-house but no dates are released. This is about developer releases, no where did I mention in-house development so I don't know why you lost it.
Instead of getting all worked, take a deep breath and think long and hard before posting a comment. Not only did you completely misread my comment, your claims are incorrect.
Lastly, enough with the personal crap. There is no need to rudely insinuate I am an idiot. Show some respect to others, it goes a long way in life.
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I referenced development time for each 10.X launch, i.e. WWDC release to GM/public launch, not the time bet GM/public launch and the next 10.x WWDC launch date. (and thanks for getting my back)
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I don't think this was a rant. This was the cold truth. There's still a lot of potential and I think money to be earned in the desktop space. I'm not sure if it's because Forstall let them get behind or not, but there still a lot of opportunity on the desktop.