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Apple Targets Samsung With New Lawsuit Over 'Galaxy' Line

You know what I think the Galaxy Line's UI does look a lot like iOS, but at the same time people follow good design standards.

Being a Web Designer, this type of things happens on websites all the time, you will find most websites that have very similar placement of things & even similar design, for example in the vast majority of websites you will find the navigation on top & sides, simply because we read top to bottom & left to right, have a look at - ign.com, gamespot.com or even apple.com & cnet.com..

You will see how they have many similarities, now this doesn't necessarily mean that they copied each other.. They are just following good design principles..

So to conclude Samsung is following good UI design.. Apple did an amazing job with it's UI on iOS.. So not surprised others are following it..

Anyway I don't think its a reason to sue, honestly Apple is doing really well in the tablet market, I don't know what they are worried about :p.. What Apple should focus on is enhancing its UI leaving others behind..

Forget suing :p
 
lilo777 said:
Have you seen Windows GUI? It's also almost identical - rows of icons and task bar at the bottom. Did Microsoft sue Apple? No.
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That's a hell of a stretch - there's far more similarity between iOS and OS X (not surprisingly) than between Windows and iOS. Apart from that, Microsoft and Apple have extensive cross licensing agreements in place after the events of the early '90s.
If you decided to release a new OS that looked just like Windows 7, or a UI that was a copy of Windows Mobile 7, you'd have Microsoft's lawyers on your back in the blink of an eye...
 
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I love the negative comments... you don't even know the details of the lawsuit and what IP Apple is trying to protect. You do know, that is the whole point of patenting things is so you can protect it.

Obviously, there are companies out there that are patent trolls, but a company trying to protect IP is different and valid if they have a valid claim.

It's good to see Apple doing it so soon. Some companies like the recent Kodak lawsuit against Apple and others, looks valid, but they waited years until their were millions of devices out there using their IP. That is low.

If Apple gets damages based on Tab sales, they'll probably see $20 from the suit! :p
 
That lawsuit has no sense.

So Ford and Sony and Boing will suit everyone for making products that looks and works like theirs? Just to give a wild example.
 
Should LG sue Apple then?

LG was first (before iPhone) to release smart phone with capacitive screen and UI that looks suspiciously close to iPhone. Here is Prada:

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If Apple prevails in court. LG would be stupid not to sue Apple (and they would probably get more money considering iPhone volumes).
 
dwd3885 said:
couldn't Samsung simply get back at Apple by NOT making Apple's stuff? I mean, come on.
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They would stand to lose a lot of money if they decided overnight that they are not going to deal with Apple anymore.
 
Yamcha said:
You know what I think the Galaxy Line's UI does look a lot like iOS, but at the same time people follow good design standards.

Being a Web Designer, this type of things happens on websites all the time, you will find most websites that have very similar placement of things & even similar design, for example in the vast majority of websites you will find the navigation on top & sides, simply because we read top to bottom & left to right, have a look at - ign.com, gamespot.com or even apple.com & cnet.com..

You will see how they have many similarities, now this doesn't necessarily mean that they copied each other.. They are just following good design principles..

So to conclude Samsung is following good UI design.. Apple did an amazing job with it's UI on iOS.. So not surprised others are following it..

Anyway I don't think its a reason to sue, honestly Apple is doing really well in the tablet market, I don't know what they are worried about :p.. What Apple should focus on is enhancing its UI leaving others behind..

Forget suing :p
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The difference here though is that nobody patented a website design where you have a navigation bar at the top and the sides etc, but Apple has patented its UI for iOS.
 
likemyorbs said:
Wow apple is way out of line here, this is not right. That's like if the first company to create a netbook sued every other company who made a netbook afterward.
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Apple does not license elements of its OS to others, unlike Microsoft. There is no reason for one netbook maker to sue another when they both license their OS from Microsoft. The only IP among netbook makers is any proprietary software and hardware design. The two issues are completely different. Apple actually owns the patents to those things they are suing over.
 
dwd3885 said:
couldn't Samsung simply get back at Apple by NOT making Apple's stuff? I mean, come on.
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You would think that on the surface. People asked, if Apple wants to kill Flash, why doesn't Adobe just kill, Photoshop, Illustrator, After Effects, Dreamwever, Premiere and InDesign on the Mac, that would cripple Apple as a creative platform for designers, well, Adobe does not want to kill more than 50% of its revenue stream.....the answer is money! Samsung loves the profitability of making Apples stuff! They do not want to lose that golden goose.
 
lilo777 said:
I did not know that TSMC produces LCD panels, RAM, SSD drives or flash memory. If Samsung stops supplying those to Apple, Apple is dead.
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Apple would probably find other suppliers of those components, so I doubt not having Samsung as a supplier would kill Apple.

On the other hand, if they have to go to multiple manufacturers for the components instead of one big supplier (like Samsung), I would expect them to pay higher costs for parts. This would result in the costs being passed down the consumer.
 
How on earth, in a million years could Apple say the Samsung Honeycomb Tablet is by any stretch of the imagination copying the UI of iOS on the iPad.

Have not all Apple fans been saying how terrible Honeycomb is, in comparison, and more like a complex desktop UI than the simple mobile iOS.

It's just crazy.

As for the physical design? Errrr, a tablet, oblong with a sheet of glass on the front?
 
Finally. took apple long enough.

Before I knew a lot about smartphones I used to think that the Samsung Galazy S was an iphone 3G. The industrial design looks just like the iphone.

The grid of icons and the dock is also a copy.

if the phone didn't say Samsung it would be a KIRF.

The have the Big Mac, We've got the Big Mic. Their buns have seeds our buns have no Seeds. They have the golden arches, we've got the Golden Arcs.

Bunch of copycats.
 
Sad

What is most sad in this article is the amount of greed. Apple gets its displays, processor, etc from Samsung. However, this is not enough. Samsung wants more, so they try and copy what Apple is doing. Corporate greed at its finest. Apple should have also included in the contract, "We'll buy parts from you, but you are not allowed to build a competing product".
 
Jorojr said:
Apple would probably find other suppliers of those components, so I doubt not having Samsung as a supplier would kill Apple.

On the other hand, if they have to go to multiple manufacturers for the components instead of one big supplier (like Samsung), I would expect them to pay higher costs for parts. This would result in the costs being passed down the consumer.
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Samsung is the biggest supplier of RAM, flash memory and LCD panels in the World (by far). There is no way Apple could live without them.
 
Bilbo63 said:
There wasn't a phone that looked or worked like the iPhone until the iPhone. Now how many clones are there?

There wasn't a Tablet that looked or worked like the iPad until the iPad. Now how many clones are there?

Apple is absolutely justified in going after them for copying their UI and design as far as I can see. I'm shocked that it's taken this long.
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There was at least one phone that "looked" like an iPhone before anyone new what the iPhone looked like.
Does the Prada ring a bell? Probably not to most of you, but it was first to market with that basic "look".
As for the UI, old WinMo phones had grids of icons on the desktop, so again, not a unique "look".
Next one will be arguing about the spacing or the number of icons per row. Nit picking I say.

The iPad is not "innovative" in it's looks or design either. It's minimalism at it's best. So simplistic that it will be tough to defend in court. It is a logical basic design for a tablet.
As for how it functions, it's technically the iPhone with a larger screen. So the argument of functionality fails as many devices functioned similarly prior to the release of the iPad. Screen size is irrelevant.

Now I do believe with the icons Samsung chose to use combined with the layout, one could logically argue that Samsung was copying the overall UI from iOS. I believe that is where Apple's case is with the phones.
Easy for Samsung to remedy. Ditch the TouchWiz UI... it sucks anyway.

Still failing to see the argument on the Galaxy tabs though... Honeycomb looks nothing like iOS ad Samsung hasn't uglied them up with the old TouchWiz UI overlay.
 
Piggie said:
Can only be 1 reason, Apple are worried.

If they felt totally confident in their product then they would not feel any threat from others and need to try something like this on.
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Absolutely not True......they MUST sue or they lose rights to the patent. Its the way the system works
 
tundrabuggy said:
You would think that on the surface. People asked, if Apple wants to kill Flash, why doesn't Adobe just kill, Photoshop, Illustrator, After Effects, Dreamwever, Premiere and InDesign on the Mac, that would cripple Apple as a creative platform for designers, well, Adobe does not want to kill more than 50% of its revenue stream.....the answer is money! Samsung loves the profitability of making Apples stuff! They do not want to lose that golden goose.
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You see I'd love Adobe to get Apple worried like this :)

All Adobe would have to do it put out a public press release that they are reconsidering their support of the Apple platform in the future, and if they wish to continue selling Mac versions of their software.

Just them saying they are considering their position would send shock waves through Apple.

It's only a matter of time. Apple are going to pee too many people off sooner or later and they will start to bite back hard.
 
Yay go Apple. From the little guy everyone cheered for to the ... big guy that sues everyone and still has everyone cheering for.
 
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