I've been holding off a new TV purchase just for this. Hopefully I won't have to wait past the Jan-Feb timeframe.
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Apple Television Set Prototypes Reportedly 'In the Works'
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Odd, I seem to recall the same argument made for the Mac, the iPod, the iPhone and the iPad. If Apple adds something we don't have and can replace or greatly reduce what you have to buy from a cable company, they'd have another hit. The vast majority of people watch 10 or fewer cable channels plus the networks yet we pay for hundreds of other channels. You don't think there's a market to change the way we obtain our TV shows?
I'm going to have to disagree with you there. My TV is ridiculously easy to use, yes. But it's an HD TV with no features.
My parents have a Samsung TV with a Smart Hub. The "Smart Hub" is probably one of the worst experiences I've ever had with a TV. It got to a point where my parents disabled it because they had no idea how to use it. Horrible, horrible user experience.
Plasma is still the king anyways. Favorite model, and highly praised in the reviews:
http://www.samsung.com/us/video/tvs/PN64D8000FFXZA
I don't see this happening at all. I don't see what this would get you over a Apple Magic Set Top Box connected to your HDTV.
Apple should buy Nintendo and integrate gaming into the tv system. Have an app store on the tv and release some blockbuster games on it and you've got the gaming industry and the television industry on lock.
They keep showing that screen setup, is that just a mockup or can you actually setup yourTV with that view?
I would much prefer it to the current list view.
That is showing your favorite TV Shows, and it is how it appears on my Apple TV when I select Favorite TV shows, with different shows obviously. So if you want to see that on your TV, select those shows as your favorite and hold down the center button to order them like that.
I think Apple could make TVs, and I am interested to see how they do it, but I hope that does not stop them from making the boxes as well for those of us who want to keep our existing TVs.
TV's may be simple and easy to use, but cable/satellite boxes are not. They have 50 buttons on their remotes, horrible looking and horrible to use UIs. And not to mention they are slow as hell.SilianRail said:
I can scroll through my entire collections of 1700 songs streamed from my computer on my Apple TV A-Z before I get through 3 pages of on demand listings. Not an exaggeration.
This is on my Cablevision cable box (that you can fit 20 Apple TVs inside of). And I had no choice in boxes when they gave me one.
If Apple could change something about this, it would be a game changer. The problem would be either be dealing with hundreds of service providers, or coming up with one of their own.
I have a 2011 Samsung TV with Smart Hub. I find the Smart Hub side of things very easy to use. No confusion here. We all have different skill sets. Some are computer experts... some are afraid to touch a key because it might break something.
Sigh. Gene Munster isn't an analyst. He's a horrible, horrible nightmare. MacRumors reprinting his stuff is like the New Yorker publishing my 4-year-old's scribbles.
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The hardware itself isn't so relevant, what is (will be?) the business model.
If they revolutionize this its not going to be about the TV itself, sure it will be a beautiful design with easy interaction, but what will be key is the way people think of getting/paying for television/video entertainment access.
If they revolutionize this its not going to be about the TV itself, sure it will be a beautiful design with easy interaction, but what will be key is the way people think of getting/paying for television/video entertainment access.
I was able to get it to do what I wanted. But I found the user experience horrible. Enough that I wouldn't purchase a Samsung TV with that feature.
Though, I'd much prefer my internet features run through a set top box. Currently I use a Roku.
My guess they're not actually making their own TVs, but working with someone on the market to customize existing models to gain tighter integration with their Apple TV. Just like "AirPrint-enabled printers".
What is tighter integration? I don't know. Most likely a different remote and standarditized menus.
What is tighter integration? I don't know. Most likely a different remote and standarditized menus.
Wrong. My Nokia 3210 was also easy to use but it didn't pack a million features. Then came the iPhone, a smartphone with a million features, and it was STILL kept simple. The art is to make a smart-TV that is still as simple and easy to use as old TV's
And again, for the love of God Apple, integrate that Kinect-like technology you patented a year ago!
I just bought a Samsung PN59D8000 (Plasma) that probably physically looks and performs bettert than a TV that apple could make in the next 3 years.
Apple: just work on the AppleTV3. Make it 1080p, and then I will buy one of your products in the TV world. No need to make your own set.
Apple: just work on the AppleTV3. Make it 1080p, and then I will buy one of your products in the TV world. No need to make your own set.
I think the issue is one of tuning, authorization and decrypting. Apple could get around all of that by switching to IPTV, where each channel is a website instead (more or less).That is showing your favorite TV Shows, and it is how it appears on my Apple TV when I select Favorite TV shows, with different shows obviously. So if you want to see that on your TV, select those shows as your favorite and hold down the center button to order them like that.
I think Apple could make TVs, and I am interested to see how they do it, but I hope that does not stop them from making the boxes as well for those of us who want to keep our existing TVs.
TV's may be simple and easy to use, but cable/satellite boxes are not. They have 50 buttons on their remotes, horrible looking and horrible to use UIs. And not to mention they are slow as hell.
I can scroll through my entire collections of 1700 songs streamed from my computer on my Apple TV A-Z before I get through 3 pages of on demand listings. Not an exaggeration.
This is on my Cablevision cable box (that you can fit 20 Apple TVs inside of). And I had no choice in boxes when they gave me one.
If Apple could change something about this, it would be a game changer. The problem would be either be dealing with hundreds of service providers, or coming up with one of their own.
so how much premium for a rebranded Samsung panel?
the only way I see this working is if they can make iOS games comparable with PS3/Xbox 360 games, both those systems can do a lot more than just games already (esp the 360 with the Kinect interaction) and do something able cable/satellite subs
but seeing how Fox is now bullying even DirecTV, I don't see how Apple will be able to really revolutionize the whole service provider realm, what are they just going to buy all the studios?
the only way I see this working is if they can make iOS games comparable with PS3/Xbox 360 games, both those systems can do a lot more than just games already (esp the 360 with the Kinect interaction) and do something able cable/satellite subs
but seeing how Fox is now bullying even DirecTV, I don't see how Apple will be able to really revolutionize the whole service provider realm, what are they just going to buy all the studios?
I don't know about nobody. I guarantee that some people would spend the money, but not me, that is 2 mortgage payments.
So I've got a Samsung 40" TV, and a Humax DVR. There is nothing wrong with the TV at all, because the design is quite nice, and it has a huge flat screen, and halfway decent speakers (Ok, better speakers would be nice), and that's it. Very hard to improve. The Humax box has a nice UI to select what I want to record. Reasonably intuitive. Not perfect, but no real problems. Together maybe £600 today. Improving it to the point where I'd pay £700 for the combination is hard. $1400 or make that £1000, as they predict, that's very, very, very tough.
With a Mac, or an iPad, I spend most of the time using the things where Apple worked to make them better. With a TV, I spend 95% of the time watching that big flat screen and listening to the sound. Apple has only 5% where they can improve it. That's what makes it so tough.
With a Mac, or an iPad, I spend most of the time using the things where Apple worked to make them better. With a TV, I spend 95% of the time watching that big flat screen and listening to the sound. Apple has only 5% where they can improve it. That's what makes it so tough.
I agree. The only apps I use are netflix and the weather app. The yahoo app interface is so un-user friendly that yahoo on the computer is 100000% better.
I have my movie collection on a hard drive connected to the usb on the TV. That does work great and is easy to use.
Maybe they should spend more time working on the AppleTV box. They have only scratched the surface of how good this product could be even locked into the Apple walled garden. I for one would not replace my perfectly good HDTV with an overinflated priced Samsung display with an ATV backend.
So many people have already bought good quality HDTV's and with a life span of 5-10years only the die hard AV/TV geeks are going to keep replacing them.
So many people have already bought good quality HDTV's and with a life span of 5-10years only the die hard AV/TV geeks are going to keep replacing them.
I want to be like Gene Munster, I would wirte any crap I imagine and I will be well paid and I will have a big audience in Apple forums and blogs.
Mmmm, very important, been right is not needed, it don't mind the many times I can be wrong, I still be cited as a very good analyst
Mmmm, very important, been right is not needed, it don't mind the many times I can be wrong, I still be cited as a very good analyst
You're way off. The article says $1800.
Apple quality deserves a few extra bucks but not this.
Uhm... you know this is a rumor site, right? That $1800 price was pulled out of an analyst's "head."