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The visitor's center at Stanford has 27" touch screen imacs. I wonder if the new Apple TV will be touch screen as well?
 
Have you seen TV remotes lately with their 50+ buttons, that could be replaced with 6 buttons or something like that and a really easy-to-use interface? Then you have a TV set-top-box with a completely different UI with another 50+ button remote, and another UI and remote for your Blu-Ray player. There is your market.
I am interested in seeing Apple take on the STB/DVR market. Especially doing it without the help of the Cable/Satellite providers.

how about if apple made a box that connects all the boxes you already have, and puts all the content in one user interface. So, if you have a playstation plugged into it, there would be the game that you have put in the ps3 in a games section, click on it, and it launches the game. And if you had sky, it would search the tv listings. If you wanted a specific program, it would read the tv listings, show you when its on, if its on anytime, and if its on iplayer and 4od, then take you right there. that would be cool
How would it do all of that with only HDMI being the interface?

There's actually 2 arguments here. This will (imho) then direct Apple on which direction to go:

1. If Apple wants to take on UI issues (as well as add "cool" UI/functionality), then they'll go with an actual TV. Why?

For example, if Apple wanted to add Facetime, they'll need a camera of some kind. A stand alone Apple TV (like the current "puck") won't do. Why? Because Apple *prefers* all-in-ones. They don't want the user to wire their TV (and thereby their entertainment system) with additional wires


2. It's about content.

If Apple is only going on the track of "content," then there's absolutely no need to create an actual TV.


Perhaps, it is both, but in my book the game of TV is really about content more than anything. People keep bringing up the current services of Apple TV, Google TV, etc. The problem? Sports - namely the NFL.

Also, dealing with cable and satellite companies are a complete nightmare. IMHO, if Apple *really* wants to make a dent, then everything needs to be over IP independent of the Cable/Satellite providers as well as a la carte/always on/no DVR but all content available at all times. If not, then what difference is Apple really making here?

w00master
Excellent question.
 
Perhaps, it is both, but in my book the game of TV is really about content more than anything. People keep bringing up the current services of Apple TV, Google TV, etc. The problem? Sports - namely the NFL.
PS3 is probably the best 'set top box' for sports right now as you can watch NHL, MLB and NFL games on it.

It's certainly a tough nut to crack as TV's themselves are basically becoming HTPC's and you have other 'boxes' like Blu-ray players and video game consoles that are acting as IPTV conduits as well.


Lethal
 
I don't know if Apple can expect consumers to pay a premium for a TV like this. Nowadays, you can get a (good brand) 40" TV for around £350 - and I don't think consumers would want to pay any higher than this.

Apple customers will gladly pay more.
 
Gee, Apple's market cap down $50B or so - I don't think so.

I may have missed the ride up - but I'm not climbing aboard for the slide down.

hey what about the predicted trillion dollar cap!? Haha i mean they went from 500b to 600b in six weeks so i don't think they're sliding down just yet. But yeah probably too expensive to get in now and make it worthwhile
 
They'll need to win me over with a lot more than siri to get me to dump 3x the price of a comparable TV from somebody else....

Besides, once Siri was exposed to the general population she became stupid. She's pretty much useless.
 
If you can't show the rest of the people on the subway that you own an expensive Mac, what's the point?.


It's all BS, sorry to say. I do own 3 Apple products, and only one of them is a mobile, the iPhone. I buy from Apple because their products simpy work without giving me headache. I am a bit too old to care about being cool with Apple products. And many people out there feel the same.
 
I think that if this fabled TV device exists, it’s much more likely to see an iPad/Pod/Phone 'smart remote' control the TV than a Siri type system. Sure Siri is useful in some situations, but actually finding stuff in your catalogue? Never. Imagine the next iPhone didn’t allow you to search and manage your music and videos using touch controls and only allowed voice commands! A voice controlled TV would have the same painful user experience.

But the worst thing about the Apple TV is the interface. I’m not saying it’s a bad interface, but to replace the full TV experience - say the family is watching some TV show and Dad wants to queue up another program, or record tonights ‘game’ etc etc. It’s suddenly a dead / cluttered experience while you’re waiting for people to choose the content.

I don’t know about US examples, but I can’t believe how much time my family waste in the Sky menu system, looking for things to watch. It has this little preview window in the top right and you end up squinting, watching it, while someone else goes on and on through the planner. Imagine if all that nonsense was moved to a slave device, that would be a perfect user experience. You could even preview other channels on the iPad before you committed it to the TV set.

To say that Apple are spending years in the lab to perfect how Siri responds to “play the next episode of House” or “record the Football” would be ridiculous. They’re developing some significant iOS software to integrate your devices to the TV. Plus there is the whole issue of hundreds of languages and regional accents that would preclude Siri from being usable in half of the world.

So yeah, there might be a voice control system with the TV, but it will never be the primary method of input for it.

Plus people keep TVs for years and years, a (correct) mentality that even Apple with its incredible marketing cannot likely shake people from. New iPads and iPhones controlling the TV would beautifully retain that upgrade path.

My 2 cents is that the TV will include a (big) HD to function as a DVR, camera and the Siri functions, to make it a compelling product on it’s own, with on screen controls, should you NEED to use them. But chain an iOS device to it and it makes it ‘revolutionary’. This would also push AppleTV sales, since you could also slave an iPad to the AppleTV and have the same control method, but without the DVR, camera and (gimmicky) voice control.
 
Bevel

It better have a super thin bevel edge like the latest samsung models. Also needs anti or less reflective glass.

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I don't know, a camera "with facial recognition and the ability to zoom into the user’s face and follow them as they walk around the room" sounds creepy ...

- sounds good. It won't zoom in that much. Just like tracking software in some web cams.

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It better have upgradable firmware / software or slot location for Apple TV. TV's have longer upgrade cycles than phones.
 
So im sitting on my couch, with my 7.1 kicking it with what im watching. and siri will hear me ask to change channel..??

I mean Siri on iphone4s only works when there is next to no background noise...

maybe whatever controller they give u.. will have siri on it and it will cancel out whatever its currently playing to be able to interperate what your've asked it..??
 
I would like an tv made by apple, but it would have to be pretty special because after switching to projectors (170" picture) for most of my tv consumption, my actual tv has been pretty redundant.

I'd like about 40", very nice design and good picture and sound. And i'd probably pay up to £800 for it. Otherwise i'll stick to the projector.
 
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