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Apple Tells Reseller New Mac Pro Is Arriving in Spring 2013

This makes sense given the recent EU changes, and how long since the last update.

Personally I don't think the case needs any external changes as people who by the Mac Pro don't get it as a fashion device, its a work machine. Also how much can they change the actually size of the box without compromising the function and whole purpose of the Mac Pro. Visually there might be some changes but most will happen on the inside IMO... so of course I'll probably be wrong :lol:
 
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This would be good opportunity for apple to introduce their own customized parallel A7 chips for the future of mac platform. To show the power of their design.

And new monitors, current thunderbolt monitors are big clunk old design.

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GermanyChris said:
I honestly wish they wouldn't toy with it too much..Its a good design, bring it in compliance and go with it.
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I couldn't agree more. The current machine remains beautiful. Just make the insides modern. Honestly, though, unless they really screw it up, count me in.
 
If true, I'd buy this:

4U rack size
PCI-E3 4 slots (Power for up to 500W total)
Dual Xeon E5-2600 series processors (8 core BTO)
Thunderbolt w/minimum onboard GPU
Radeon HD 5870 Standard
24GB RAM standard upto 1TB
SuperDrive
2TB hard drive (SSD BTO)
Assorted USB/Firewire/Other ports

$3400
 
Hmm, I'll put a bet on May then, seems like a good month to me? It better be a total re-design with the LATEST Xeons and chipsets and features, WiFI as standard and Bluetooth 4.0, it may even come with WiFi AC? You never know, but I guess the most interesting thing will be what kind of upgradability will it offer, will it still give 4 HDD bay's and some PCIX slots for instance.

One thing Apple really really really needs to do I think is implement SLI or Crossfire functionality in OSX and the hardware.
 
apolloa said:
Hmm, I'll put a bet on May then, seems like a good month to me? It better be a total re-design with the LATEST Xeons and chipsets and features, WiFI as standard and Bluetooth 4.0, it may even come with WiFi AC? You never know, but I guess the most interesting thing will be what kind of upgradability will it offer, will it still give 4 HDD bay's and some PCIX slots for instance.

One thing Apple really really really needs to do I think is implement SLI or Crossfire functionality in OSX and the hardware.
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The latest Intel Xeon CPUs aren't due until July??, so putting your bet on May and asking for the latest CPU is kind of contradictory (unless Apple get some sort of early exclusive release). I'd bet they will be ready for ordering in late June with delivery in July once the new CPUs arrive from Intel. Now, if Intel delivers early, then perhaps we will see the Mac Pro's earlier. But right now I bet the hold up is at Intel, not Apple.

Apple probably already has the design ready to go.

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I was so P155ed last June when we got the shaft. I mean really mad. I was so ready to buy at least 5 Mac Pros. Maybe I'm expecting a miracle but I'm not holding my breath any more.
 
Just glad we are going to see an upgrade this year. My Applecare runs out in February of next year, so I will sell my 12 core and get a newer one.
A redesign case would be nice, but that's not a must. the current one is very well done.
Besides the MacPro I hope they upgrade the displays with a larger than 27" version and better screens with matte version or less reflection than the current ones.
 
Chupa Chupa said:
Tim Cook is quoted as saying "we are working on something really great" for pro users. It doesn't take a whole lot of work to pop in a new chipset. Also that would hardly be really great, and you can't fool pro users like consumer users. Huge shark jump if it were just a new chip set so I'm betting the entire pot on something completely new... new case, new guts. It will be as innovative and fresh as the Mac G3 blue and white. A pro Mac for the 21st century.
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I'm willing to be sorely disappointed along with you! You got my +1.
 
JohnDoe98 said:
The latest Intel Xeon CPUs aren't due until July??, ....
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Later than July. Since that roadmap slide was released Haswell has slipped to June.

http://www.cpu-world.com/news_2013/2013012201_Availability_date_of_Haswell_processors_confirmed.html

The "old" graphic suggests that they'd arrive around April or early May ( beginning of Q2 rather than the end).

If Haswell slips then Ivy Bridge -E ( and -EP which is what Apple is likely using; something from the Xeon E5 class of offerings) likely has slipped just as much. Mainstream Haswell and Ivy Bridge -E are made on the same process technology. If Intel is busy cranking out Haswell product to meet initial demand they probably and going to crank out Ivy Bridge Xeon E5 product at the same time.

A good chance that all slides to at least August, if not later. Then the question arises of how big the gap is between Intel announcing and volume availability. Given Intel's track record that could easily slide a new Mac Pro tied to Ivy Bridge Xeon E5 isn't Sept/Oct.

So it would make some sense to release a Sandy Bridge Xeon E5 in March because the Ivy Bridge models are not "just around the corner". Apple could those "late" arriving Ivy Bridge models in an early 2014 Mac Pro. [ Haswell E5's are likely at least a year away from whatever the delayed Ivy Bridge date is. ]
 
deconstruct60 said:
Later than July. Since that roadmap slide was released Haswell has slipped to June.

http://www.cpu-world.com/news_2013/2013012201_Availability_date_of_Haswell_processors_confirmed.html

The "old" graphic suggests that they'd arrive around April or early May ( beginning of Q2 rather than the end).

If Haswell slips then Ivy Bridge -E ( and -EP which is what Apple is likely using; something from the Xeon E5 class of offerings) likely has slipped just as much. Mainstream Haswell and Ivy Bridge -E are made on the same process technology. If Intel is busy cranking out Haswell product to meet initial demand they probably and going to crank out Ivy Bridge Xeon E5 product at the same time.

A good chance that all slides to at least August, if not later. Then the question arises of how big the gap is between Intel announcing and volume availability. Given Intel's track record that could easily slide a new Mac Pro tied to Ivy Bridge Xeon E5 isn't Sept/Oct.

So it would make some sense to release a Sandy Bridge Xeon E5 in March because the Ivy Bridge models are not "just around the corner". Apple could those "late" arriving Ivy Bridge models in an early 2014 Mac Pro. [ Haswell E5's are likely at least a year away from whatever the delayed Ivy Bridge date is. ]
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I'd be willing to bet Apple shows off the new Mac Pro at WWDC in June along with new pro apps and some new technology in 10.9. with the Mac Pro and pro apps coming out 2 months later in August.
 
Spring could mean as late as mid-June, and knowing Apple, they will wait until the last minute to release anything they promise for a "set date or period" Look at iTunes, etc....Apple is not going to release this new Mac Pro in March, I can tell you that 100% -- just not going to happen.

The new Mac Pro will employ Thunderbolt and USB3, as well as having the option for Fusion drives and larger Flash storage options. It will probably be a smaller, lighter case design as well, and the case design will blow you away...I am thinking it may employ some sort of metallic reflective material or liquidmetal, or it may be a more minimal design with fewer PCIe slots. Something less industrial, but more prosumer. That is direction Apple is headed. Think, Quadra 840av, not Quadra 950.
 
WardC said:
Spring could mean as late as mid-June, and knowing Apple, they will wait until the last minute to release anything they promise for a "set date or period" Look at iTunes, etc....Apple is not going to release this new Mac Pro in March, I can tell you that 100% -- just not going to happen.

The new Mac Pro will employ Thunderbolt and USB3, as well as having the option for Fusion drives and larger Flash storage options. It will probably be a smaller, lighter case design as well, and the case design will blow you away...I am thinking it may employ some sort of metallic reflective material or liquidmetal, or it may be a more minimal design with fewer PCIe slots. Something less industrial, but more prosumer. That is direction Apple is headed. Think, Quadra 840av, not Quadra 950.
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I agree. But in black and aluminum .
 
powers74 said:
I'm willing to be sorely disappointed along with you! You got my +1.
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Prepare to be disappointed. Every new Apple product is the "best xxxx we ever made". It is just standard corporate hyperbole. I wouldn't read a whole deep message into that.

That said the basic Mac Pro design is about 10 years old. It has several outdated assumptions and constraints incorporated. PCI-e GPU cards a much bigger power consumers and heat producers now; even eclipsing the CPU packages. The thermal/power distribution of the current design is off.

Similar about the need to two 5.25" bays and no 2.5" bays. Far more current Mac Pro users have need of 2.5" than 5.25".

Modern high speed wireless requires 3 (or more) antennas. Apple needs to account for that.

There is little reason for the Mac Pro to be gratuitously rack hostile. They don't have to slim it down to a 1U or 2U form factor but it shouldn't be just 2 inches off of being reasonable. Especially when 95% of the 2 inches is the "handle design".

A new Mac Pro that allowed for some GPGPU cards that had substantial "horsepower" would blow away current Mac Pros. Nothing exremely radical needs to be done but some changes need be made.
 
Peace said:
I'd be willing to bet Apple shows off the new Mac Pro at WWDC in June along with new pro apps and some new technology in 10.9. with the Mac Pro and pro apps coming out 2 months later in August.
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You'd have to point to something in 10.9 that requires a Mac Pro for that to be remotely creditable. I've heard of nothing rumored in 10.9 that says "only useful" on a Mac Pro. New OS X APIs are likely useful on all Macs. Things like GCD and OpenCL work well on Quad core + mobile GPGPUs just as well as Mac Pros.

You could bet but would likely loose. The January-early March window and August-Oct windows are more likely. June is a less likely because that late means more highly likely to wait until Ivy Bridge E5 arrive.

And no ... that one time deal with Apple going "early" with Xeons was a gimmick I doubt Intel will allow for them again. It isn't "normal".

The other point you are missing are the rumors that the iPhone is being lined up to return to WWDC. If that happens the Mac Pro isn't going to compress iPhone demo time. Most of WWDC will be about OS X and iOS . Products which show off those new features will make the stage.
 
I dont think it is farfetched to think that they could debut in Spring with the new Intel Sandy Bridge CPUs. Apple has gotten chip "scoops" before. The Air debut comes to mind. They also could just as easily debut the Mac Pro months before it ships.
 
Ryth said:
Sorry #2 just isn't happening. If you can upgrade the RAM in a 27" new iMac, then you will obviously be able to upgrade it in the Pro.

You'll be able to upgrade the video card because that is the whole point of a Pro desktop machine...upgradable slots. Plus Pro machines need additional slots for Audio or Video cards for Post Production. Those will exist.

What's more likely is the possibility of no optical drive.

Just think of the more modern SFF towers and that's what you'll be seeing..smaller, thinner but well designed to deal with the heat issues that those machines run into.



Doubtful. Delays in the iMac were the screen yields. There are no screen yields for the MacPro.
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I think you missed us being facetious.... :D
 
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French Apple Reseller France Systems sent out a newsletter to its customers on the news that Apple will be halting sales of the Mac Pro on March 1st, 2013 due to new EU regulatory requirements.

As noted by both Mac4Ever and MacGeneration, the reseller also reports in that newsletter that they have heard from Apple that a new Mac Pro will be arriving in Spring of 2013. Translation:While Apple typically doesn't leak such information, even to resellers, they have been strangely candid about a 2013 Mac Pro revision. In June, after a disappointing revision to the Mac Pro, an Apple spokesperson confirmed that Apple was working on a new Mac Pro for release in 2013.

Update: Apple declined to comment to Ars Technica about the reseller's claims, merely pointing back to earlier comments by Tim Cook about a new Mac Pro coming "later" in 2013.

Article Link: Apple Tells Reseller that the New Mac Pro is Arriving in Spring 2013
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Awesome this clears the way to replace the mac pro with the mac mini pro!
 
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