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They don't have cameras and self-driving or mapping equipment mounted to those busses? Could help catch the person(s) more quickly.
 
Man those Android users have taken their Apple hate to a whole new level!

J/K guys.
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You'd think tech companies in particular would be aware of the benefits of remote working. Not everyone needs to be in the same site/location. Try to do so, and you end up with much higher cost of living, longer commutes.

There are other benefits to diversifying your company locations too - when I worked in Apple we worked on a project where a build was released at end of day (by devs in Cupertino) then tested for ~8 hours (by QA in Tokyo) then tested for another ~8 hours (by QA here in Cork). By the time the devs come back to work the following morning the build had effectively been tested for 2 days. You could do the same with shift-work, but I think this is a lot better for peoples' quality of life, and probably cost too!

This goes counter to the whole space ship concept. It was meant to be able to facilitate collaboration, formal and casual.
 
"Desirable" is highly subjective. I'm sure many incredibly-talented people would say that they have no desire to live in Silicon Valley, that whole Bay Area is a cesspool, and that its talent pool is overrated.

I'm not suggesting that Apple relocate the company, just that they might benefit from building R&D facilities in places that aren't the same old places.

I have a friend in game development whose company just closed down and is looking for a job. He's a bit conservative, so he said he love to get a job anywhere else. It would take a REALLY good job to keep him in the Bay Area.

I'd be interested in seeing what Apple would do in a place like Chicago (and yes, I'm from the Chicago area)? It's in the middle of the USA, decent infrastructure. Plus, I'd be interested seeing what kind of architecture they'd use for any building they build. Note: they could do a better gauging the weather conditions. I hear that their new Michigan Avenue store's roof had issues with ice falling off the sides.
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Most desirable? Seriously?
The cost of living there is ridiculous!
Good luck finding a decent house that is under 7 digits around that area.
You do realize you just disproved your own point right? Lol. The reason houses are that expensive is BECAUSE it’s desirable, not the other way around. If people didn’t want to live here, it wouldn’t be so expensive. To people who complain about Cali being expensive I tell them one thing: you get what you pay for. You want cheap, live in Mississippi.
While you're right that housing prices indicate an area's desirability, many people who can afford such housing can be very snobby, and have holier-than-thou attitudes.

You'd think tech companies in particular would be aware of the benefits of remote working. Not everyone needs to be in the same site/location. Try to do so, and you end up with much higher cost of living, longer commutes.

There are other benefits to diversifying your company locations too - when I worked in Apple we worked on a project where a build was released at end of day (by devs in Cupertino) then tested for ~8 hours (by QA in Tokyo) then tested for another ~8 hours (by QA here in Cork). By the time the devs come back to work the following morning the build had effectively been tested for 2 days. You could do the same with shift-work, but I think this is a lot better for peoples' quality of life, and probably cost too!

Good point, though being in the same area does help collaboration.
 
Not sayin' it is, but just that it could be...a calculated diversion perpetrated by Apple against itself to gain public sympathy (the mafia does it all the time) since they have been getting ALOT of public stink lately. I dont see where anyone has put forth the idea, so im just throwing it out there. Publicized news of a high schoolers interview with CEO, publicized news of womens salaries equal if not more than males and this apparent "terrorist" agression against them. Would not be suprised. But then again, it could just be someone with an axe to grind about the property values like everyone else has pointed out. I know that when developers wanted property values to plummet here where we live so they could develop, if the elderly living in the area refused to sell, they would hire some ne'er-do-wells to vandalise their property and prostitutes to conduct business near the properties that never were there before. Just sayin, it happens everyday on every scale...
 
Not sayin' it is, but just that it could be...a calculated diversion perpetrated by Apple against itself to gain public sympathy (the mafia does it all the time) since they have been getting ALOT of public stink lately. I dont see where anyone has put forth the idea, so im just throwing it out there. Publicized news of a high schoolers interview with CEO, publicized news of womens salaries equal if not more than males and this apparent "terrorist" agression against them. Would not be suprised. But then again, it could just be someone with an axe to grind about the property values like everyone else has pointed out. I know that when developers wanted property values to plummet here where we live so they could develop, if the elderly living in the area refused to sell, they would hire some ne'er-do-wells to vandalise their property and prostitutes to conduct business near the properties that never were there before. Just sayin, it happens everyday on every scale...
Considering pretty much all those type of things happen enough on their own there isn't much need for a conspiracy theory to make it all plausible.
 
Apple wants the most talented engineers and the most talented engineers want to live in the most desirable places.

Just remember that these "talented engineers" are the same ones that started Pearl Automation. Let that sink in for a moment. I'd say most folks are there so that if it doesn't work out they can easy hop to a different company or into a startup. I've known a good number that go so they can get a big tech company on their resume.
 
The saddest, most cowardly thing I've seen in a while.

I admit, I don't live there - but I live and work in a country with a working (some say, it's the best in the world) public transportation system. And these buses remove probably hundreds or even thousands of private cars from the road. And that's really (almost) all that counts.

They should attack the government for not providing decent enough public transportation (does it exist at all?).

But these are just cowards with slingshots.
Disgusting.
 
If the criminals can't afford housing, it's time they relocate out of state. There's no need to attack workers in the tech industries.
That's ridiculous...like they're going to leave... Sorta like Romney in 2012 saying that illegals should "self-deport"....
 
This goes counter to the whole space ship concept. It was meant to be able to facilitate collaboration, formal and casual.

I fully get that.

I'm surprised though that an innovative tech company like Apple isn't championing remote working, given both their capabilities and its potential market. Traffic / commute-time / pollution / fuel costs / localised property hyper-inflation, these could all be helped if everyone DOESN'T have to be in the same location.
 
I fully get that.

I'm surprised though that an innovative tech company like Apple isn't championing remote working, given both their capabilities and its potential market. Traffic / commute-time / pollution / fuel costs / localised property hyper-inflation, these could all be helped if everyone DOESN'T have to be in the same location.
They could very well be doing all of that, along with all of the rest of it since while there will be plenty who would work remotely, there would also be plenty who wouldn't.
 
It's baffling that there are people in this thread who are even remotely suggesting there would be an acceptable reason for someone to attack a bus, whether it be with a gun, a rock, or whatever.

Google buses were also hit so this isn't a specific attack on Apple or anything of the contrary. Highway 280 is a hot mess.
 
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Maybe I'm missing something - whats the attack about/for?
How do people know its aimed at apple?
 
Maybe I'm missing something - whats the attack about/for?
How do people know its aimed at apple?

The Silicon Liberation Army hasn't issued any statements, so unless someone tied a message to the rubber bullet, rock, or whatever projectile was used, the reason for the incidents is purely a matter of conjecture. What is known is that these company-run commuter buses have been targets for protests in the past, and the reason for those protests is known.

How do they know it's aimed at Apple? Most likely because there were multiple incidents involving Apple vehicles. A general vandal would just be shooting out random windows.

Relocating the bus route to avoid the issue? It seems that this kind of thing is often (though hardly always) a crime of opportunity - someone who lives within walking distance of I-280, let's say. Meantime, if this is a case of actively pursuing those vehicles wherever they may go, changing the route buys some incident-free time during which investigators may be able to locate the perpetrator(s).
 
Maybe I'm missing something - whats the attack about/for?
How do people know its aimed at apple?
Not just Apple, Google too. Lot of hostility towards the Tech buses due to them using regular bus stops & lanes slowing down other commuters. Got to work out compromise so there are less cars on the roads and around the schools near Apple, Google etc.
 
Move to the Midwest? Silicon Valley emerged where it did for a variety of reasons - the presence of major technical and research universities, proximity to one of the more desirable cities in the US, climate, large amounts of agricultural land ripe for conversion to housing and industry... Silicon Valley is now over-concentrated and over-built, with real estate values to match. However, that over-concentration is what makes every major, thriving urban area hum, including an abundance of job opportunities in fields of specialized labor - change jobs without relocating.

However, there are lots of places around the world with similar characteristics, in varying stages of development. There are tech hubs near many US cities including Boston, Washington DC, Seattle, Des Moines, Austin, Chicago, Ann Arbor, Charlotte, Pittsburgh, Albany... yet the smaller these cities are (and the smaller the corporate campuses) the harder it is to find the next job without relocating. While the cost of living may sometimes be lower, regionally-adjusted wages may wipe out that advantage.

Nobody's mentioned that Apple just announced plans for another campus in the US. They already have two major concentrations - Silicon Valley and Austin. Maybe they'll move to exactly the right place in the Midwest, so that those who yearn for a Midwestern location don't have to pick up stakes. However, since the Midwest is huge, chances are the jobs will move to the "wrong" place in the Midwest. If you're willing to move to another city that has comparable quality of life and cost of living, great, but people who expect the job to come to them need an awful lot of patience.

Apple does use tele-commuters, but telecommuting doesn't work all that well for collaborative projects, it's better suited for roles like tech support (and Apple seems to have lots of at-home tech advisors).
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Not just Apple, Google too. Lot of hostility towards the Tech buses due to them using regular bus stops & lanes slowing down other commuters. Got to work out compromise so there are less cars on the roads and around the schools near Apple, Google etc.

If this is the case, then the anger seems misplaced. It ought to be mass transit riders vs. private vehicles, rather than public transit riders vs. private transit riders. If more/larger curbside bus stops are needed, they're not all that difficult to stake out. If buses need more dedicated lanes, then add more bus lanes. If private mass transit is poaching on public transit facilities, then charge licensing fees high enough to cover the costs of enforcement, administration, etc. necessary to keep the traffic flowing smoothly.
 
Maybe Apple should try growing their workforce in other locations that aren't the SF Bay Area. Maybe some US locations that aren't on the coasts... there are some amazingly smart, talented people in the Midwest. Just a thought.

Like how they have a huge work from home program... and they have that huge new campus in TX...
 
You do realize you just disproved your own point right? Lol. The reason houses are that expensive is BECAUSE it’s desirable, not the other way around. If people didn’t want to live here, it wouldn’t be so expensive. To people who complain about Cali being expensive I tell them one thing: you get what you pay for. You want cheap, live in Mississippi.
Economy 101: Supply and Demand.
It is not always the demand that drives the prices up.:rolleyes:
You get what you pay for, overpriced houses and overcrowded area with endless traffic jams.
 
blame apple for the affordable housing? if you're poor and cant sustain living in the bay area then move out of there. it's not like you're forced to live there and have no chance of moving out. seems like they just want to live in the best city but cant afford it.
 
Good thing you're letting everyone know they're rerouting the shuttles so the protestors can go find and vandalize them on the new route!

This happens almost daily. I think the media doesn't care 2 cents worth about the possibilty that they are encourging "copy-cat" mayhem.
 
Any many who can't have an inferiority complex. What's your point?

His point is that many of us have made a very conscious decision to not live in places like SF, LA and New York because the lifestyles they represent aren't in the least bit desirable. To spend hours on a freeway to get to work, to have to worry about high levels of crime, out of control regulation and taxes, doesn't sound so awesome to me.

And then to have the people who live there talk about us with terms like "fly over states" and disparage and entire state such as Mississippi like it is a third world country makes me even more glad I don't live where the sanctimonious congregate.
 
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