Apple Temporarily Rerouting Employee Shuttles Due to Ongoing Vandalism

[WarHeadz]

His point is that many of us have made a very conscious decision to not live in places like SF, LA and New York because the lifestyles they represent aren't in the least bit desirable. To spend hours on a freeway to get to work, to have to worry about high levels of crime, out of control regulation and taxes, doesn't sound so awesome to me.

And then to have the people who live there talk about us with terms like "fly over states" and disparage and entire state such as Mississippi like it is a third world country makes me even more glad I don't live where the sanctimonious congregate.

Ok, so don't move here. Trust me, the lack of your presence is no loss to us. But don't expect Apple to open R&D facilities in the middle of nowhere just because some folks don't want to live on the coasts.

And I don't spend hours on a freeway, I live within walking distance of my business.
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Economy 101: Supply and Demand.
It is not always the demand that drives the prices up.

Not sure what point you're trying to make here. But considering we're the most populous state in the country, I would say demand is high enough.

You get what you pay for, overpriced houses and overcrowded area with endless traffic jams.

You also get more opportunity, higher salaries, better access to healthcare, amazing food choices, more culture and diversity, and beautiful weather. Trust me, we don't live here for no reason.

 

[CarlJ]

His point is that many of us have made a very conscious decision to not live in places like SF, LA and New York because the lifestyles they represent aren't in the least bit desirable. To spend hours on a freeway to get to work, to have to worry about high levels of crime, out of control regulation and taxes, doesn't sound so awesome to me.

And then to have the people who live there talk about us with terms like "fly over states" and disparage and entire state such as Mississippi like it is a third world country makes me even more glad I don't live where the sanctimonious congregate.

You complain about people in big coastal cities disparaging entire areas, and in the process you paint entire areas with a large, and quite uninformed, brush. I live in a large city on the west coast, and I don't spend hours on the freeway to get to work, and I don't worry about high levels of crime, or out of control regulation or taxes. I've been to SF and LA (and NY but not recently), and there's more traffic than here, but otherwise they're similar. Maybe if you didn't disparage entire areas based on something you heard...

 

[Gasu E.]

Not sayin' it is, but just that it could be...a calculated diversion perpetrated by Apple against itself to gain public sympathy (the mafia does it all the time) since they have been getting ALOT of public stink lately.

That's about as likely as your post being planted by an Apple competitor. Not sayin' it is, but just that it could be...
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blame apple for the affordable housing? if you're poor and cant sustain living in the bay area then move out of there. it's not like you're forced to live there and have no chance of moving out. seems like they just want to live in the best city but cant afford it.

And the end result would be that there would be no one in the Bay Area left to serve coffee, wait tables, fix a roof or broken faucet, cut grass, or otherwise work at service businesses-- groceries, restaurants, dry cleaners, gas stations, Uber drivers,... Sure, all those highly paid software engineers could do their own laundry, wash their own cars, make all their own meals, do all their own home repair.... but then, who is going to have time to write the code?

 

[B4U]

Ok, so don't move here. Trust me, the lack of your presence is no loss to us. But don't expect Apple to open R&D facilities in the middle of nowhere just because some folks don't want to live on the coasts.

And I don't spend hours on a freeway, I live within walking distance of my business.
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Not sure what point you're trying to make here. But considering we're the most populous state in the country, I would say demand is high enough.



You also get more opportunity, higher salaries, better access to healthcare, amazing food choices, more culture and diversity, and beautiful weather. Trust me, we don't live here for no reason.

Of course, you shall like where you live.
But I am looking at it from an outsider's view.
There are a lot of issues with living in California. For example, Water supply is one of the basic necessity where you guys are in a constant struggle, right?
Beautiful weather is debatable as there is Summer and more Summer in Los Angeles where you are located.
As for higher salaries, is it good enough to cover the cost of living comparing to other states?

 

[macsforever]

Apple wants the most talented engineers and the most talented engineers want to live in the most desirable places.

They need a team to kill these POS! Anybody doing this crap to Apple or ANYBODY should be dealt with with severe retaliation!
Take em OUT!

 

[gnasher729]

Not sayin' it is, but just that it could be...a calculated diversion perpetrated by Apple against itself to gain public sympathy (the mafia does it all the time) since they have been getting ALOT of public stink lately. I dont see where anyone has put forth the idea, so im just throwing it out there.

I don't know the US laws about this, but in the UK if a company were to pull a stunt like that and the police figured it out, there would be trouble. Wasting police time, pretending that there was a crime, whoever is responsible for it, the judge would throw the book at them.

Then add that a thing like this cannot be done without witnesses, and every loyal employee who keeps his mouth shout today will one day be a much less loyal ex-employee telling stories, anyone ordering that kind of thing would be fired immediately. Not for what they've done, but because Apple wouldn't want to employ anyone that stupid.

 

[Verita]

Ok, so don't move here. Trust me, the lack of your presence is no loss to us. But don't expect Apple to open R&D facilities in the middle of nowhere just because some folks don't want to live on the coasts.

And I don't spend hours on a freeway, I live within walking distance of my business.
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Not sure what point you're trying to make here. But considering we're the most populous state in the country, I would say demand is high enough.



You also get more opportunity, higher salaries, better access to healthcare, amazing food choices, more culture and diversity, and beautiful weather. Trust me, we don't live here for no reason.

Sir, Please don’t give anyone else reason to move to California. Plenty here already and we need to populate the flyover states. Someone has to grow our turnips!

 

[I7guy]

They need a team to kill these POS! Anybody doing this crap to Apple or ANYBODY should be dealt with with severe retaliation!
Take em OUT!

Instead of breaking windows with an unknown object, it could be this:

http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/bs-md-fort-meade-sniper-20150304-story.html

Lot of sick people out there; unfortunately.

 

[CarlJ]

Instead of breaking windows with an unknown object, it could be this:

http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/bs-md-fort-meade-sniper-20150304-story.html

Lot of sick people out there; unfortunately.

Unlikely that a Baltimore resident has a powerful enough rifle to hit buses in San Francisco. If you mean just the general idea of a local sniper with a rifle firing regular ammunition, I believe the line of thinking was that that would be more likely to either cause more damage than was seen, or to leave bullets in the bus where they could be found. Agreed, there are a lot of sick people out there. And it's too easy for sick people to get access to firearms.

 

[0388631]

The reality is that the Bay Area is full of luddites who oppose the building of large scale apartments or townhouses where a single or two large homes may be built. Then they bitch about rising rental prices and general CoL. San Francisco real estate is cheaper than what it is here. So I'd consider it more affordable. I mean, if you can put up with the tech workers, the protestors, and the drug addicts, not to mention the street hookers.

I wouldn't want to raise my family in that particular environment. Bay Area is more inclined to server young people and their weird habits.

 

[truthertech]

Apple wants the most talented engineers and the most talented engineers want to live in the most desirable places.

Chicken or egg problem.
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I have a friend in game development whose company just closed down and is looking for a job. He's a bit conservative, so he said he love to get a job anywhere else. It would take a REALLY good job to keep him in the Bay Area.

I'd be interested in seeing what Apple would do in a place like Chicago (and yes, I'm from the Chicago area)? It's in the middle of the USA, decent infrastructure. Plus, I'd be interested seeing what kind of architecture they'd use for any building they build. Note: they could do a better gauging the weather conditions. I hear that their new Michigan Avenue store's roof had issues with ice falling off the sides.
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Chicago?? LOL. Mediocre to poor weather, terrible traffic, expensive and one of the worst violent crime problems in the entire country, with many "no go" areas. Someone is murdered every 17hrs and shot every 4 hours! And with all the protest marches blocking traffic about the murders.... oh wait, never mind, that's not a issue.

https://heyjackass.com/home/