A little more than that, but it's a good point. The 14" MBP already exists. Actually all of Apple's major product lines seem like they've got one or two too many models. Example: 11 inch iPad Pro and iPad Air. Does Apple need both? I wonder. Does Apple need the Mac mini, Mac Studio, AND Mac Pro? Really?
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Apple Testing at Least Nine New Macs With Four Different M2 Chip Variants
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If you own an M1 you aren’t the M2 target market of course.
An why is that if I may ask, will the existence of an M2 ax automatically make your M1 max unusable, and in yjat case how/why? I must be missing somthing here because I don 't get it
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They have the talent and capability to produce as many product lines as possible and see what sticks.
They’re all targeted at different customers. Certain products already surprisingly seem to be underperforming, such as the M1 iMac.
As much of a beast as the Mac Studio is it seems like most customers want laptops. The latest iMac is also a sound value on paper.
Speaking of iPad, iPad Air is targeted at the consumer market at a value-oriented price point.
LOL, it turn out most who are old dont comment much on Internet any more. I guess you grow out of it and dont bother.
And you left with bunch of young people crying why are we getting yearly CPU upgrade, when it was the norm in the 80s, 90s and 00s.
And you left with bunch of young people crying why are we getting yearly CPU upgrade, when it was the norm in the 80s, 90s and 00s.
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Quite a lot of people would have found the M1 perfectly useful if could address 32 GB RAM for lengthy YouTube video editing. So we this M2 clamor for a lower power replacement that maybe supports that, but why couldn't the baseline M1 Pro 8/14 support that?
Call me crazy but I’m waiting on the M2 update to the 24” iMac now. If it weren’t so close to the end of the alleged cycle then I would just go buy one today. The current model is a year old so I’m guessing it will also be updated before the year is up. Thoughts?
? M1 Pro 8/14 supports 32 GB.
I am not convinced we will get a new 24" iMac this year. If we do though, it would be fall. If you can wait, then great.
The "Pro" chip is really the odd one out in the current lineup as it is only present in the MBPs. It feels a bit weird to have a "Pro" chip in consumer machines, but that's how Apple named these things. I would have gone with: M1, M1X, M1X Pro, M1X Ultra, but that's just semantics/marketing.
Here is my lineup:
MBA: M2 only, same display as today (no XDR)
13" MacBook (no longer called MacBook Pro): M2 or M2 Pro, same display as today (no XDR)
Mac mini: M2 and M2 Pro
iMac: M2 (possibly M2 Pro option)
14" MBP & 16" MBP: M2 Pro and M2 Max
Mac Studio: M2 Max and M2 Ultra
Mac Pro: M2 Max and M2 Ultra
This brings the Pro chip to the desktop. It also gives every machine except the MBA a "good" and "better" CPU option, depending on what they do with the iMac. A lot of pundits think Apple is returning the iMac to pure consumer focus, and I'm sort of OK with that.
I also wonder if the MacBook is even needed in the lineup, but it depends on what they do with the MBA. Some ideas:
1. Apple is OK with reduced margins on the MBA and offer it for $899.
2. Apple again makes the MBA the industry leading ultra-portable and it becomes a bit premium again.
3. My crazy theory is the MBA uses the same 10.9" screen as the iPad Air and then it is basically an iPad Air with keyboard for $799 (I can dream, right?)
Here is my lineup:
MBA: M2 only, same display as today (no XDR)
13" MacBook (no longer called MacBook Pro): M2 or M2 Pro, same display as today (no XDR)
Mac mini: M2 and M2 Pro
iMac: M2 (possibly M2 Pro option)
14" MBP & 16" MBP: M2 Pro and M2 Max
Mac Studio: M2 Max and M2 Ultra
Mac Pro: M2 Max and M2 Ultra
This brings the Pro chip to the desktop. It also gives every machine except the MBA a "good" and "better" CPU option, depending on what they do with the iMac. A lot of pundits think Apple is returning the iMac to pure consumer focus, and I'm sort of OK with that.
I also wonder if the MacBook is even needed in the lineup, but it depends on what they do with the MBA. Some ideas:
1. Apple is OK with reduced margins on the MBA and offer it for $899.
2. Apple again makes the MBA the industry leading ultra-portable and it becomes a bit premium again.
3. My crazy theory is the MBA uses the same 10.9" screen as the iPad Air and then it is basically an iPad Air with keyboard for $799 (I can dream, right?)
I think the iMac may not be until early 2023. But even saying that, I would wait if I was you.
The baseline M1 Pro 8/14 does support 32GB of RAM, but it is only available in the 14" & 16" 2021 MacBook Pro laptops...
Apple really needs to get a Mn Pro into the Mac mini, fill that product gap between the Mn Mac mini and the Mn Max Mac Studio...
Any M update will be incremental from now on. However, just as with iPhones, upgrading from iPhone Max 12 to 13 will bring an incremental progress; upgrading say from iPhone 8 to 13 will be revolutionary jump. So M1 users won't feel the need to upgrade to M2 the moment it came out and it will take 2 years at minimum to progress to M3, as we don't even have M2 now. I think that in nutshell, those who have 2017-2020 Intel macs or earlier, will benefit most from M2 and M2 will also create a great market for used (or refurbed) M1 units. All in all, think iPhones used market. Even chips will be similar
“Max” is a name that should be the top model. Is the worst name in the lot.
I really don‘t believe we’ll see the M2 this year unless they announce it at WWDC, which they won’t. The M1 brand has been ludicrously successful and I believe Apple is going want to sit on their M1 series for at least another year. There is definitely no way the introduce a new MacBook Pro this year when the Pro and Max models were JUST released. They’ll save M2 for next year’s WWDC when they can spend half the keynote discussing how its the most powerful chip in its class and go into the technical details. I really don’t believe they’ll just throw it at consumers in an October event. They’ll want a big show and release for the next generation chips. They also don’t want to step on the M1s that aren’t even a year old. As soon as the M2 is released, people will begin holding out for whatever new M2 Pro/Max computer they want rather than buy the “obsolete” M1 Pro/Max that’s only around a year old.
I am curious if they are going to put 10 Ultras into a cheese grater to get to 1.5TB of RAM and somehow support PCI cards
I for one would be surprised if Apple locks themselves into an M2 Pro/Max in 2022.
Will we be on an M5 Pro/Max in 2025? M10 in 2030?
Annual updates are great and all, but a major version refresh annually is too frequent IMHO for a SOC.
I'm loving my M1 Pro 14" MacBook and don't care if they really do go to an M2 Pro in 2022, but it would be a surprise.
I am looking forward to the Air - wife could use an update from her white unibody 2009 MacBook, but hates all the silver and black. Hates black bezels which has kept her on an iPhone 7+ and older iPad Air for years. So a white bezelled MacBook Air would be a nice treat for her.
Will we be on an M5 Pro/Max in 2025? M10 in 2030?
Annual updates are great and all, but a major version refresh annually is too frequent IMHO for a SOC.
I'm loving my M1 Pro 14" MacBook and don't care if they really do go to an M2 Pro in 2022, but it would be a surprise.
I am looking forward to the Air - wife could use an update from her white unibody 2009 MacBook, but hates all the silver and black. Hates black bezels which has kept her on an iPhone 7+ and older iPad Air for years. So a white bezelled MacBook Air would be a nice treat for her.
Those M1 Pro/Max MacBook Pros actually came out last year, but M2 Pro/Max MBP models could come next year. However, IMO there are likely M2 Macs coming this year, possibly including a 13-14" M2 MacBook Pro.
There will be zero M1 anything in the Mac Pro.
Apple isn't on an annual upgrade cycle here. M1 came out in 2020. It just feels like a yearly cycle since M1 Pro/Max came out last year, but M1 is getting closer to 2 years old.
It's usually for at least 5 years after it's discontinued. And then security updates for another couple of years.
My 2014 Mac mini is running Monterey officially, because it didn't get discontinued until 2018.
Personally I think this is likely bogus.
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I really wish an M1 (or M2?) 12” MacBook exists somewhere in Apple’s plans. That chassis was perfect for me.
We had a rumored quad M1 Max for the AS Mac Pro for quite awhile. If you think the fact that Apple was able to bond two M1 Max together is the maximum configuration, they could likely could take this further.
Anandtech image never showed how to connect 2 together, Apple never tells you anything in advance.
Those in the know have already indicated that the hardware design does not allow for this, at least not in a meaningful manner. They say that while it could theoretically be done, it would be a half-assed implementation, leading to quite an inefficient result. Considering Apple has been designing everything from the ground up, it would stand to reason that Apple would not go down this route.
Thus, the more logical route is that Apple has designed something quite different, and has not just clamped 4 Maxes or 2 Ultras together.
The MacBook Pro has been refreshed every year as far as I can tell. Why do you think a 2022 MacBook Pro would be ridiculous? It would be unprecedented to not have a refresh this year.
You literally don't have the time to enjoy your latest purchase ?
I'm just starting to enjoy my M1 Ultra, only to be already hearing of the M2 Ultra around the corner.
I'm just starting to enjoy my M1 Ultra, only to be already hearing of the M2 Ultra around the corner.