If it's the case, I wonder how long it will take people to complain about Apple 'only' including 16 GB.
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Apple Testing Four New M4 Macs Ahead of Fall Launch
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(squints) prolly 8 years from now.
I always thought that iMacs should have been built that way. Sad to upgrade and lose a perfectly good monitor in the process. Simply snap off the brains and add an upgrade. Btw, there used to be (maybe still have them) jigs that would hold a Mini on the back of a monitor or as a shelf unit on top.
Hopefully the RAM will be...
M4: 16 GB and 32 GB
M4 Pro: 32 GB and 64 GB
M4 Max: 64 GB, 96 GB, and 128 GB
M4: 16 GB and 32 GB
M4 Pro: 32 GB and 64 GB
M4 Max: 64 GB, 96 GB, and 128 GB
I do hope we won't see a huge price increase and price tier that would make upgrading from the M4 to M4 Pro an even greater cost than current available gen mac configs.
Wait… didn’t captain attention Gurman say this wasn’t till WWDC ???
For the first time since I bought a 2012 mini (which I still have) I’m in the market to buy a new real mac
I need a new laptop for work so it’s time to step tenderly out of the Intel/hackintosh world and cautiously in to the new reality
Curious to see what the price point/performance proposition will be this fall
My wife just got a new job which came with an m3 MacBook Pro and i have to admit it seems pretty decent
My 14700k/6800 hackintosh should keep me well as a power machine for a few more years but there’s no hiding from the reality of the future I guess
I need a new laptop for work so it’s time to step tenderly out of the Intel/hackintosh world and cautiously in to the new reality
Curious to see what the price point/performance proposition will be this fall
My wife just got a new job which came with an m3 MacBook Pro and i have to admit it seems pretty decent
My 14700k/6800 hackintosh should keep me well as a power machine for a few more years but there’s no hiding from the reality of the future I guess
Depends how quickly they ramp up the AI level of precision- LLMs could benefit from more than 10x that amount of RAM....
As usual, the bigger problem will be whether the larger sums of RAM are available for sensible prices. Multiplying RAM pricing by 10 as they currently do is a bad practice, and is one reason many data scientists working in AI stay away from Macs...
About a month
Agreed. Well, unless it's multiples of 6GB.
They could/should offer an even higher tier for the Max chip too.
Haha, yep. What are the wholesale prices down to now for that upgrade? A dollar fifty? A dollar? 50 cents? They do adore the near pure profit these upgrades bring.
It doesn't matter in my book. I've always said that Apple hides inflation and the real cost behind 8GB of RAM. If they made the new MBP start at $1799, that is Apple being honest about the real cost of the notebook. It will also make it significantly easier to get discounts anyway, as 3rd party retailers will have 16GB models in stock to discount.
For sure upon its release.
I want to hear from Gurman that he talked to the developers on the other side of the table working on the
Pro and max pro chips..Maybe tomorrows News? 🤷♂️🤷🤷♀️
Pro and max pro chips..Maybe tomorrows News? 🤷♂️🤷🤷♀️
They hide the costs of inflation behind the update costs you say? While the public have witnessed a lot of inflation lately, many of Apple's component costs have dropped. Some have plummeted in price. Apple talk about it themselves in their earnings calls...
I just can't get excited by Apple anymore - they really are just a box shifter on the Mac side of things now.
With the exception of the Mac Pro (which is £7k and still hobbled), their entire product range is unupgradable post purchase and have been specced artaficially low at entry level to rip you off on future proofing at the point of purchase. Increasing the RAM on a Mac mini to 16GB and the storage to 1TB for example, effectively doubles the price of the computer, which is obscene!!
The M4 may be great, but if there's a new M4 Mac Mini model, it'll still likely still be shipped with less storage than an entry level Mac mini from 2010 had and I doubt the default RAM will increase (as claimed here).
Great if it does (it's long overdue)...but I bet the default price will increase too. There's always a 'gotcha' with Apple now, they have eroded all trust.
If I wasn't so invested with Logic (which I've used since Emagic days), I'd be an ex Apple user.
Not because I wanted to abandon Apple, but because Apple abandoned me.
Fingers crossed I'm wrong, but deep down... we all know I won't be.
With the exception of the Mac Pro (which is £7k and still hobbled), their entire product range is unupgradable post purchase and have been specced artaficially low at entry level to rip you off on future proofing at the point of purchase. Increasing the RAM on a Mac mini to 16GB and the storage to 1TB for example, effectively doubles the price of the computer, which is obscene!!
The M4 may be great, but if there's a new M4 Mac Mini model, it'll still likely still be shipped with less storage than an entry level Mac mini from 2010 had and I doubt the default RAM will increase (as claimed here).
Great if it does (it's long overdue)...but I bet the default price will increase too. There's always a 'gotcha' with Apple now, they have eroded all trust.
If I wasn't so invested with Logic (which I've used since Emagic days), I'd be an ex Apple user.
Not because I wanted to abandon Apple, but because Apple abandoned me.
Fingers crossed I'm wrong, but deep down... we all know I won't be.
First is was just a rumor. The M4 iPad Pro is only available with 8 or 16GB. There is no 12GB M4 iPad Pro, Or at least not yet
The rumor was based on a tear down that revealed the RAM chip in a 8GB M4 iPad Pro had a unique part number that seemed to indicate a 12GB part. But the iPad only provided 8GB. Why is still a bit of a mystery.
One theory was that they were binned memory chips.
Another theory is that Those chips were either cheaper or more readily available than 8 GB chips, so Apple used these 12GB chips but Limited storage To just 8 GB
Don’t test models often have 16GB of RAM? It doesn’t mean that the base consumer models will have 16GB.
Self adhesive sticker for 2$ will do the same job as magnets. Well I admit that can not enable wireless charging.
Inflation was probably the wrong word, but my point still stands. Apple uses 8GB to be able to advertise a low starting price of $1599, but in reality they want to sell it at $1799 to get a profit margin they find acceptable. RAM is relatively cheap. The 16GB custom upgrade is simply to get the $200 they want to charge anyway out of you. It's genius because now you might as well upsell to the $1999 model at that point.
With that said, it'd still be a win because 3rd party retailers will have 16GB models to discount because its a stock configuration now. You will probably be able to find 16GB base models discounted to $1599 soon after launch anyway.
iMac not skipping a chip generation this time. I wonder why it never got M2?
Base units will probably only have two USB-C ports, and only one of those will be thunderbolt 4.