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Apple Testing In-Display Fingerprint Sensor for iPhone 13, Foldable iPhone Also in the Works
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https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.an...foldable-market-sell-4-million-units.html/amp
It also sold 50 thousand in pre order in korea so the market is far bigger at this stage than one would expect
I think this would be easier and even cheaper to make.
To me, that would be the most welcome feature this year. When I go to the supermarket I usually pay with an app requiring FaceID, so I have to unlock the phone with the pin and then put the pin again in the app. But even if I'm out and about and want to check something on the phone the pin is really annoying.
TouchID on the power button will be help in those scenario and I'd use FaceID at home and when I'm not required to have a mask. Hope they'll add it at least on the Pro models
I've had phones with in display fingerprint readers and they sucked. S9 and S10
- Wrong location for taking it out of your pocket, old location on back was great and a natural grip when taking phone out of pocket.
- The sensor didn't work anything near as well as well as the one on back, mugh higher fail rate.
- IMO top reason for it not being as good is you can't feel WHERE to put your finger for it to work, you have to look and put your finger on the place displayed.
Let me amend my statement. Other than people who follow tech news and post on forums like this, nobody wants it.
People keep wanting bigger screens? I certainly don’t. I’m thinking of upgrading to the Mini from my XS, because phones have gotten way too big in recent years. But that’s just my opinion. But how does a screen that can double improve a smartphone experience? What’s the benefit of a bigger screen other than the fact that it’s bigger?
Who says the design will ever end? The clamshell laptop design is still going strong after 25 years. And what do you mean, it’s “the inevitable future”? Nothing is inevitable.
My point is that folding phones don’t have refinement and elegance (by virtue of the very technologies available). That’s why Apple should stay far away from them. If you want to try one out, folding phones already exist. They’re not game changers. They’re just phones. That fold. That’s it.
Just because the S9 and S10 didn't function well for you doesn't mean the technology should be abandoned. If Apple can implement a sensitive under-screen sensor with a large effective area, that could work in the out-of-pocket use case.
Meh. Faceid doesn’t work with my mask but touchid won’t work with gloves. Both of which I have to wear all day at work. Dropping my mask for a split second works much better than taking a glove off. I welcome both technologies but neither are optimal for me in this pandemic.
I wish we can have both. My fingers sometimes get sweaty and TouchID stops working. If they put an under-display TouchID, then that will solve the issue.
I'd have kind of agreed with the first one. Especially with that incredibly ugly display on the front and the weird giant camera cutout in the corner in the center. But the second one looks pretty great. Full size screen on the front and just a hole punch in the center on the larger display. I'd be tempted to get one if it was cheaper.
You are about to use your phone anyway, why wouldn’t you look at the screen? Guess what, with Face ID you also have to look at the screen. Also, after 5 times you will remember where the fingerprint location is. It’s not that hard.
Both FaceID and the back fingerprint work with a natural grip and are fast and reliable in my experience.
You WILL mess up the fingerprint location. You can't feel it, it is that hard.
Edit; what they might do is make the fingerprint sensor huge, like the whole bottom half of the screen.
They could, the key is it would have to be BIG so you can't miss it. Because you can't feel where it is.
Quite the opposite! Common people will need to perceive a design change, something fresh and even different to justify yearly phone updates (although a flip phone doesn’t seem so innovative to you and few other people). So to achieve that perception among the consumers, the manufacturers will have to launch new designs sooner or later.
Or tell me, how otherwise do you think manufacturers will manage to deliver a fresh design to the market within the next 5 years? Please don’t think in the MR readers profile, but common people.
The fact that you don’t want a bigger screen doesn’t imply that somebody else don’t want to. The current trend in which manufacturers launch smartphones with larger and larger screens year after year, shows that common people are demanding that specific feature. Manufacturers obviously do so in response to market needs.
Well my dear, that’s like asking what do you need an iPad for when you already have an iPhone.... Bigger screens help with comfort and allow to have and read more content with ease, as simply as that.
Do you really think that the current smartphone design is the final and most refined design for this product? Do you really think that the market will afford 10 more years with the same design so many years dated? LOL
By the way, the “clamshell laptop” is the result of folding a screen onto its own keyboard, so yes, laptops are folding computers! Figure it out!!
Well, is just something that will happen, you like it or not. If you knew something about MKT you would know.
Well, that’s your opinion! But....we are not here discussing about what you hope or expect nor even your opinion, we’re talking about what it seems so obvious and will be, once again, you like it or not.
I'm glad to know you happened to find out how to unlock your IPhone wearing a mask. Unfortunately I have tried day after day and it fails to ID me with the mask.
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What? Why is it a gimmick? Works great and provides a bigger viewing experience.. Don't tell me when Apple releases it, it's not a gimmick.. that's some hardcore fanboi stuff.
MagSafe and Fingerprints? OMG thank goodness. My multi-year drought of buying Apple stuff will soon end.
Cannot wait for Apple to launch their version of a folding iphone. The way the Galaxy Fold works is absolutely perfect, which essentially gives you a very compact form factor, that opens into a larger screen. This basically satisfies all those who prefer a compact phone, and also those who prefer larger screens! For me this is the future. Some Tech you tubers like Austin Evans and Quinn from Snazzy Labs have used the Galaxy Fold or Z Flip as their daily drivers and love them. Initially these kinds of phones will retail for probably £1,500 alongside traditional phones, but as the tech matures the prices will drop and eventually become the standard phone form factor. After this who knows, maybe nanotech that directly interfaces with our brain like Iron Man?
An under the screen fingerprint reader would be pretty cool but for right now I think it is more realistic for them to put it in the power button like the iPad Air. What would be really cool is to have the entire screen be a fingerprint reader so it didn't matter where you touched it. Then Apple could take things even further and have an optional security setting that blocks the phone from responding to any touch events if it is not coming from your finger. Then no one but you could interact with your phone. Obviously this wouldn't work for everyone in all situations but I could see it being useful in some cases.
Airdrop is fine for me. However, I prefer to have the iDevice perform significant updates e.g. iOS 13 --> 14, 14.1 -->14.2 via computer rather than over the air. I believe, having a complete OS download used to apply the upgrade is more reliable when many more software components will be replaced.
Apples biggest problem will be its iOS apps and its app ecosystem for foldables, especially since Apple and its app ecosystem is NOT conducive to foldables. Think about it, Apple chose a path were Apple encourages its developers to make separate iPhone apps and separate iPad apps. Apple has even gone out of their way to make a separate iPadOS. This is really bad for foldables, period. Android and Google from day one, encourage their developers to make one app that works on both smartphones and tablets, which is conducive towards foldable hardware. Its why you see Samsung's Galaxy Fold unfold from a smartphone to a tablet. That type of foldable, you will NOT see from Apple, unless Apple changes their apps, and developers change how they create iOS apps. For example there is a separate Adobe Lightroom app for iPhones, and a separate Adobe Lightroom for iPads. This true for lots of iPad apps. So which Adobe Lightroom app would be running on Apples foldable hardware? Would Apple allow its customers to install and run both versions of the same Adobe Lightroom app? Hardware is not the problem for Apple in foldables, it is the software. Samsung is working on their 3rd Galaxy Fold hardware. Apple has a major software problem. Apple could make a foldable that stays as an iPhone, and only runs iPhone apps, but then it will NEVER be able to be like Samsungs Galaxy Fold. Apples foldable, if any, will be more like Samsung's Galaxy Z Flip, or Motorola's Razr. You will be waiting a long time for Apple to make a foldable that can fold and unfold from an iPhone to an iPad. I will bet a billion dollars on that one.
I disagree 100%. Plus Apple must disagree with you as well, especially if they are really working on a foldable i-device. Apple does have a major software problem with foldables, especially when Apple has gone out of their way to separate iPhone apps from iPad apps. Heck Apple has gone out of their way to make a separate iPadOS as well. This is so NOT conducive towards foldable hardware. That is why I will go on record stating that you will NOT see from Apple a device like Samsung's Galaxy Fold. The only type of foldable that Apple could ever make is a foldable like Samsung's Z Flip, or like Motorola's Razr type of foldable devices. Those type of devices stay as smartphones, so in Apples case, their foldable, if they actually made one, would stay as an iPhone type device, and only run iPhone apps.