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Apple Testing LLM Siri With ChatGPT-Like App
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You're right but Agents should have a centralized history so you can access and review your interactions. The obvious solution for this is an AI text chatbot that you can also use in and of itself.
I would completely block any usage of Google technology.
Apple designed a ChatGPT-like app to help its engineers test the overhauled version of Siri, reports Bloomberg. Unfortunately, the Siri app isn't going to be released to the public, and it's strictly for internal testing.
The app is being used to test new Siri features that Apple has planned, such as more contextual awareness, an ability to do more in and between apps, and deeper integration with personal data.
It is said to look similar to other chatbot apps, organized into multiple conversations across different topics. The app is able to remember and reference past chats, and it supports extended conversations.
Apple has been working on a smarter version of Siri since the launch of iOS 18. The company initially planned to debut an Apple Intelligence Siri as part of the update, but ended up delaying the functionality until 2026 because it did not meet Apple's standards.
The Apple Intelligence Siri plan was scrapped, and Apple decided to entirely overhaul Siri with second-generation architecture, speeding up an LLM transition. The upcoming version of Siri that Apple plans to release will use advanced large language models like ChatGPT, Claude, Gemini, and other AI chatbots.
LLM Siri will be able to hold continuous conversations, provide human-like responses to questions, and complete more complex tasks.
Apple is on track to launch the LLM version of Siri in early 2026, likely as part of an iOS 26.4 update that could come in March. That will see Siri introduced a full year after Apple originally wanted to launch the updated version of the personal assistant.
At the end of next year, Apple is planning to unveil a new look for Siri, giving it a more humanoid design that could be similar to the Mac's Finder logo.
Apple has held talks with Anthropic, OpenAI, and Google, and it may use a third-party company to power the new version of Siri rather than relying on its in-house AI models.
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Apple will use other company’s services, until it doesn’t need them anymore.
Then it will cut them loose.
Just like it was with maps, etc.
Then it will cut them loose.
Just like it was with maps, etc.
"People" don't. Mostly investors do. They seem convinced that if a chatbot exists people will spill their darkest secrets about their lives to it so they can then collect that data and sell it to the highest bidder. Maybe even connect it to their bank account in some way so they will directly be able to facilitate the transfer of wealth from the customer to them (like Amazon's shopping-related Alexa tasks). Whether you that would actually happen or not I leave as an exercise to the reader, and their judgement of the intelligence of humankind.
I think one thing they have forgotten here is they are talking about a company that champions user privacy as one of its selling points. How much personal information Tim & Co would really make use of to generate revenue is the better question.
Of course you do. Unfortunately, humans are phenomenally bad at specification. Our brains gloss over details, make assumptions, group together unrelated concepts...in fact, one of the main roles of an engineer in all industries is reinterpreting the customer's ask, adding in the missing details, confirming the trade offs and wrangling the competing implications to make a bad specification into a real thing that will do what is needed without breaking immediately or costing a ton of money.
In the new era of AI software, the computer can do this, too. But it needs to be able to work with the requester to improve the quality of their own requests until it's actionable. To make sure you're not telling it to do something plainly stupid. Hence chatbot -- the current cheapest way to deliver clarification and accept confirmation.
Maybe someday we'll come up with a user experience where we can make a bad request and have the computer act on what it thinks is likely to be the best interpretation of it. But my 25 years of software experience leads me to believe this would be a bad idea. How many times have you been talking to somebody and used the wrong word, or the wrong cardinal direction, or accidentally quoted a number that was off by 10x or more what you intended? It happens to me daily. I want confirmation if the computer things I'm doing something stupid -- like when I accidentally transfered $90k between bank accounts, rather than $9k.
apple just sucks balls at sofrware, but the best in hardware
so current apps are all non-agentic setups? I think in-line with Apple’s ethos that technology should be seamless, they’ve shied away from using the term AI, which has sorta come back to haunt them, which seems to have caught them off guard.
I was against AI for the longest time, but have warmed up to it and actually use ChatGPT quite a bit for house, personal and work tasks. Saved me a lot of time and actually motivated me to fix things up around the house. Even just having something to chat to in the car has made my commutes more interesting, and I learn a lot of new things and get different perspectives.
Of course, I know this is all going up to ChatGPT's servers. I try not to put personal information into it, as I have no idea what that data is being used for, or who can read it. If the new Siri is basically a on-device ChatGPT app with similar functionality, I think that would finally get me to upgrade from my 14 Pro.
Of course, I know this is all going up to ChatGPT's servers. I try not to put personal information into it, as I have no idea what that data is being used for, or who can read it. If the new Siri is basically a on-device ChatGPT app with similar functionality, I think that would finally get me to upgrade from my 14 Pro.
We don't need a chatbot from apple.
We need better siri.
Example: I use warp terminal, which has AI built in. It'll do things like give you correct command syntax from english query, like "download audio only best format from youtube". The other day, I was trying to switch audio device through the terminal and failed. It jumped in and said "looks like you're trying to switch audio device and command failed b/c device couldn't be found. Let me run the command to list the devices... I see the problem. There's a trailing space in the device name. You didn't include it, here's the correct command." I would've been banging my head against the wall with that one.
Obviously, something like that would be much harder with a gui. But that's the sort of thing apple could do when they have complete control of the system and access to your data.
We need better siri.
Example: I use warp terminal, which has AI built in. It'll do things like give you correct command syntax from english query, like "download audio only best format from youtube". The other day, I was trying to switch audio device through the terminal and failed. It jumped in and said "looks like you're trying to switch audio device and command failed b/c device couldn't be found. Let me run the command to list the devices... I see the problem. There's a trailing space in the device name. You didn't include it, here's the correct command." I would've been banging my head against the wall with that one.
Obviously, something like that would be much harder with a gui. But that's the sort of thing apple could do when they have complete control of the system and access to your data.
I know I’m not the only one, Tesla recently released Grok for their cars. Same thing, basically.
I'm really getting old. 😂
Y'all do you 👍
I'm going to stick with music or a podcast or audiobook.
I see it as another option, an interactive podcast of sorts with any subject I'd like. It works no different than a phone call.
I’m not really sure why your age would have anything to do with it. My dad told me he uses Grok in his Tesla all the time, he's breaking 70.
honestly. I feel like for Siri to be taken seriously, it will need its own app to really compete with the other LLM chat bots. Maybe it’s not about competing directly but it’s hard to regain what’s lost. Look at Google traffic now that Chapgpt exists it leapfrogged them. I rarely Google things. Now, If I had a workable Siri LLm that also worked with my apps it would be a total leap from from ChatGPT
A podcast? Audiobook? Am I the only one that still listens to the radio?? 💀
Apple "Intelligence" is so censored it’s useless. Every time I ask it to translate, correct, or anything else, it refuses and suggests trying with ChatGPT instead. I have to click "ok" a second time instead of being automatic, so I might as well just switch apps. It’s embarrassing how badly Apple screwed this up. This is what you get when all the profits go to shareholders, while the talent is gone or minimized. Management has trashed Steve Jobs’ legacy.
