Yes, in eg. Germany and many other European countries it is. Education shall always be free, just another downside of the USA.My school misplaced up my FAFSA once. Should college be free for everyone now?
Yes, in eg. Germany and many other European countries it is. Education shall always be free, just another downside of the USA.My school misplaced up my FAFSA once. Should college be free for everyone now?
Someone needs to take Apple on with the 30 % tax. It needs to be someone with deep pockets and it would appear Epic fit that description. There will be a lot of support from developers who don't have the resources to fight this battle.
I think the problem with a vertically integrated product like a smartphone is that it's difficult to say "just switch to a different one".
So true. I’m so locked into Apples ecosystem it would be near impossible for me to switch at this point.
My point isn't that its difficult to switch -- it's difficult to /say/ the solution is "just switch to a different one".
It's sort of analogous to political parties. When I only have two choices (Apple and Google), I only have choice in the sense that I can pick the lesser of the two evils, or that I have to make difficult choices in deciding which issue is more important to me.
Just like choice of which cellular provider to use (AT&T, T-Mobile, etc.) being separated from which smartphone I'm using, why shouldn't I get choice of which payment processor to use for digital goods in an app? I can choose whether to use payment processor (PayPal, Stripe, etc.) when I buy physical goods inside of an app.
Can you choose to use PayPal, Stripe, or any other payment processor at your local Walmart or CVS?
Yes, in eg. Germany and many other European countries it is. Education shall always be free, just another downside of the USA.
I am curious. You have repeated said you love their platforms, but then add all sorts of other things. You hate that they do not maintain backward compatibility forever (”I can still play my old MS-DOS games, but I cannot run 32-bit apps!”), you have said you like their security, but want anyone to be able to install anything (”I do not like notarized apps on the Mac.”) and people to be able to side load apps (despite the fact that all that really does on Android is encourage piracy).
You say you love their hardware, but really only want it to run on Intel silicon.
Give all of your comments, I am not clear why you use their hardware at all. You seem to want a different ecosystem with a different set of rules. The thing is, that ecosystem exists and is called Android. Why is it that you, and so many others here, want to ruin the ecosystem that the vast majority of Apple users prefer and consciously choose?
I do not want a system where every one can have his own store and side load apps. That makes it impossible for smaller developers to succeed. It is no coincidence that it is Epic that is companies like Basecamp. Epic, Microsoft and Spotify that are complaining the loudest. They have the least need for the App Store, and would much prefer to have no safeguards over what they do with your information.
Then why did they got summon by the govt and went to it? Simply they can't do whatever they want.
Microsoft had 95% of the desktop market and that's what got them in hot water with the DoJ. Apple has less than 15% of the smartphone market. That doesn't even remotely qualify as a monopoly.The same people would have rooted against the MS monopoly of past, now rooting for the Apple monopoly (cause Apple is somehow their friend).
Can you choose to use PayPal, Stripe, or any other payment processor at your local Walmart or CVS?
Microsoft had 95% of the desktop market and that's what got them in hot water with the DoJ. Apple has less than 15% of the smartphone market. That doesn't even remotely qualify as a monopoly.
That's not really analogous because Walmart or CVS is a separate company. Apple owns both the App Store and the only payment method to purchase virtual goods on it.
The govt will enforce rules for Apple like they did w/ MS back then. If they don't comply, they simply have to pay a fee that's all. MS paid like 1M dollar a day for not removing windows explorer browser from their OS. If the govt get mad enough, they'll do something more drastic.
Nope! You need different grades to be able to register to different education fields, but it’s free.And anyone can go to college? Their isn't limited funding for only those with the highest grades and test scores?
You can't choose any digital payment option at Walmart. You can't use Apple Pay or Google Pay. Your only digital option is Walmart Pay.
Nope! You need different grades to be able to register to different education fields, but it’s free.
And nobody is taking pitch-forks at Walmart for it? OMGADZz Walmart is EVUL just like Googl and Appl! Boycot, sue, regulate because of monopoly on payment methods!
Contracts usually have a section that says if one part of the contract is found to be invalid, the rest of the contract shall remain in force. So Epic’s only way out would be that if the sections they are getting booted out for violating are found to be invalid and I don’t see that happening.Right, and Epic’s argument is that the contract is illegal or not enforceable. We will have to wait and see what happens, but if
I’m not mistaken, if a contract is found to be illegal in the eyes of the law, it is not enforceable. (Not specific to this situation, just contracts in general)
But you don't have only two choices. You choose to see only two. You can get Kai OS, Lune, Plasma, Tizen, and others. You can get an older device like Palm, Windows Mobile, or FireFox OS and still use their apps. You could also get one of those older non-smartphones and buy apps from your carrier. If more people used them they might see faster development.
Just because their are two names with the most marketing doesn't mean the others don't exist or you can't use them.
Contracts usually have a section that says if one part of the contract is found to be invalid, the rest of the contract shall remain in force. So Epic’s only way out would be that if the sections they are getting booted out for violating are found to be invalid and I don’t see that happening.
That is technically correct, which is the best kind of correct.
But realistically, many markets naturally settle on one or a few giants. One of those things are network effects -- the more a particular platform is used, the more attractive it becomes.
This is the reason that companies like Amazon or Uber spend years running on a loss -- so that they can be the single or among the few dominant giants left entrenched in a market. Now, sometimes they can be disrupted by major technological change (which the iPhone itself was) but in the meantime, tough luck.
But even if that happens, what happens is that instead of giants A, B, C, now you have giants D, E, F. So the fact that there are only a few choices in this market is inevitable.
Granted, it's a bit of a gray area, but essentially Netflix and Spotify don't have each item (i.e. movie or song) as a purchasable/consumable instead it's part of their service, so Netflix and Spotify would only pay Apple a portion for each subscriber. I don't know if Netflix or Spotify still allow sign-up through their apps or if it's now only via their website (or apps on other platforms). Anyway, IAP are for app-specific features and digital products/content. So, for example, if Netflix made it so a Favorites tab in the app was only accessible as an add-on feature for say $0.99, Apple would take $0.30 of each purchase of that add-on. On the other hand, Amazon -- their general app -- is (mostly?) exempt because it sells (primarily) physical items and thus can integrate and advertise it's own payment processing system. I haven't purchased movies through the Prime Video app or books through the Kindle app (only via Amazon.com), therefore, I don't know if they comply with using Apple's IAP system.I just want to know why some think Epic should give Apple 30% but not Netflix or Spotify.
What every other developers accept doesn't matter.
The success of iOS platform is not only contributed by Apple, but also 3rd party, and 30% for all scales of sales doesn't sound right for big companies.
I personally support Epic on this issue as it would be more beneficial for consumers than, say, stock investors.